When will the first major hurricane of the 2018 Atlantic hurricane season form?

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When will the first major hurricane of the 2018 Atlantic hurricane season form?

August 21-31
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September 1-10
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September 11-20
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September 21-30
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October or later
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No Majors
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Re: When will the first major hurricane of the 2018 Atlantic hurricane season form?

#21 Postby CyclonicFury » Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:12 am

Hammy wrote:
NotSparta wrote:14 said no majors.

yep, looks like peak of "season cancel" season


Some of the official forecasts include none in their range though, wasn't one of them between 0 and 1?

NOAA did say 0-2 majors so the experts seem to think a season without a major hurricane isn't out of the question. However, it's not something that occurs often. It has occurred the following years in the satellite era: 1968, 1972, 1986, 1994 and 2013. If we still don't have a major a month from now then the talk of a season without a major will make a lot more sense, but we are still over 10 days away from the average date of the first Atlantic major hurricane's formation. I still think we see at least one major.
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Re: When will the first major hurricane of the 2018 Atlantic hurricane season form?

#22 Postby tolakram » Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:25 am

My vote was 11-20th. Might be a little late, but I still feel like sometime in the first half of September.
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Re: When will the first major hurricane of the 2018 Atlantic hurricane season form?

#23 Postby Shell Mound » Fri Aug 24, 2018 5:09 pm

While we are likely to witness an increase in activity in early to mid September, modelled conditions do not appear to be sufficiently conducive to major hurricanes. Vertical wind shear and subsidence appear to offset other factors. Though hurricanes are a near-certain bet, there is a better-than-average chance that September ends without a major hurricane. October isn't likely to be more conducive, given oncoming El Niño. Overall, the window for a hurricane season, much less a major hurricane, is shorter and more hostile in 2018 than in most other years. I'm going out on a limb and voting for "no majors" in 2018.
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Re: When will the first major hurricane of the 2018 Atlantic hurricane season form?

#24 Postby CyclonicFury » Fri Aug 24, 2018 5:47 pm

Shell Mound wrote:While we are likely to witness an increase in activity in early to mid September, modelled conditions do not appear to be sufficiently conducive to major hurricanes. Vertical wind shear and subsidence appear to offset other factors. Though hurricanes are a near-certain bet, there is a better-than-average chance that September ends without a major hurricane. October isn't likely to be more conducive, given oncoming El Niño. Overall, the window for a hurricane season, much less a major hurricane, is shorter and more hostile in 2018 than in most other years. I'm going out on a limb and voting for "no majors" in 2018.

I don't think I would say "better than average" odds for September to not have a major hurricane. Not only is the Atlantic expected to see rising motion return next month, but much of the western Atlantic is warm enough to support a major hurricanes. Only one September since 1995 (2013, of course) did not have a major hurricane. While I agree that a major hurricane is unlikely for the next 7-10 days, I think we could very well see one after that.
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Re: When will the first major hurricane of the 2018 Atlantic hurricane season form?

#25 Postby HurricaneRyan » Mon Aug 27, 2018 1:38 am

otowntiger wrote:Considering that it looks like no hurricane will form in August for the first time since 2013, and only the 9th time in recorded history, I’m thinking the the odds of a major forming at all this season are slim.


I'm not sure if it's really that slim of a chance though.

So in addition to 2013, you also have 2001, 2002, 1997, 1984, 1988, 1914, and one other season.

1984 had Diana
1988 had Gilbert, Helene and Joan
1997 had Erika
2001 had Erin, Iris and Michelle
2002 had Isidore and Lili


And only 5 seasons have gone without major hurricanes. So I don't August having no hurricanes is a factor into whether there will be no majors this season
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Re: When will the first major hurricane of the 2018 Atlantic hurricane season form?

#26 Postby Hurricaneman » Mon Aug 27, 2018 10:22 am

HurricaneRyan wrote:
otowntiger wrote:Considering that it looks like no hurricane will form in August for the first time since 2013, and only the 9th time in recorded history, I’m thinking the the odds of a major forming at all this season are slim.


I'm not sure if it's really that slim of a chance though.

So in addition to 2013, you also have 2001, 2002, 1997, 1984, 1988, 1914, and one other season.

1984 had Diana
1988 had Gilbert, Helene and Joan
1997 had Erika
2001 had Erin, Iris and Michelle
2002 had Isidore and Lili


And only 5 seasons have gone without major hurricanes. So I don't August having no hurricanes is a factor into whether there will be no majors this season


Heck 1914 didn’t even have a hurricane and is the only season to do so I believe
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Re: When will the first major hurricane of the 2018 Atlantic hurricane season form?

#27 Postby otowntiger » Tue Aug 28, 2018 5:38 am

HurricaneRyan wrote:
otowntiger wrote:Considering that it looks like no hurricane will form in August for the first time since 2013, and only the 9th time in recorded history, I’m thinking the the odds of a major forming at all this season are slim.


I'm not sure if it's really that slim of a chance though.

So in addition to 2013, you also have 2001, 2002, 1997, 1984, 1988, 1914, and one other season.

1984 had Diana
1988 had Gilbert, Helene and Joan
1997 had Erika
2001 had Erin, Iris and Michelle
2002 had Isidore and Lili


And only 5 seasons have gone without major hurricanes. So I don't August having no hurricanes is a factor into whether there will be no majors this season
. August is normally the second busiest month of hurricane season. If no tropical storms form this month, much less, any hurricanes and and even much less any majors, the odds (and common sense) tell me that the chances of a major not forming are pretty high. I’m not saying one won’t, but the odds are reduced. In my humble opinion.
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Re: When will the first major hurricane of the 2018 Atlantic hurricane season form?

#28 Postby Hammy » Tue Aug 28, 2018 5:52 am

otowntiger wrote:
HurricaneRyan wrote:
otowntiger wrote:Considering that it looks like no hurricane will form in August for the first time since 2013, and only the 9th time in recorded history, I’m thinking the the odds of a major forming at all this season are slim.


I'm not sure if it's really that slim of a chance though.

So in addition to 2013, you also have 2001, 2002, 1997, 1984, 1988, 1914, and one other season.

1984 had Diana
1988 had Gilbert, Helene and Joan
1997 had Erika
2001 had Erin, Iris and Michelle
2002 had Isidore and Lili


And only 5 seasons have gone without major hurricanes. So I don't August having no hurricanes is a factor into whether there will be no majors this season
. August is normally the second busiest month of hurricane season. If no tropical storms form this month, much less, any hurricanes and and even much less any majors, the odds and common sense tell me that the chances of a major not forming are pretty high. I’m not saying one won’t, but the odds are reduced.


The first major hurricane occurs, on average, around Sep 4-5. Uncommon as it is, many of the years with no August hurricanes were fairly recent, making up about one in five seasons since 1982, most of which were backloaded. I still think it's in the realm of possibility (though less likely than it seemed a week or so ago) that one doesn't occur, but August can't really be used as an indicator either.
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Re: When will the first major hurricane of the 2018 Atlantic hurricane season form?

#29 Postby otowntiger » Wed Aug 29, 2018 1:45 pm

I’m going with no majors this year. We had enough last year to last for a long time.
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Re: When will the first major hurricane of the 2018 Atlantic hurricane season form?

#30 Postby TheStormExpert » Wed Aug 29, 2018 3:02 pm

IF the GFS is correct those that said September 1st-10th may be right.
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Re: When will the first major hurricane of the 2018 Atlantic hurricane season form?

#31 Postby Dean_175 » Wed Aug 29, 2018 8:24 pm

The new tropical wave originating from Africa looks promising in the GFS. Looks like it could wind up into a cat 3-- possibly a 4, but it is still too early to tell.
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Re: When will the first major hurricane of the 2018 Atlantic hurricane season form?

#32 Postby Ntxw » Wed Sep 05, 2018 7:04 am

September 1-10 voters will likely win. Florence looks like a major out there and may get it today.
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Re: When will the first major hurricane of the 2018 Atlantic hurricane season form?

#33 Postby TheStormExpert » Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:35 am

TheStormExpert wrote:IF the GFS is correct those that said September 1st-10th may be right.

Looks like the GFS was right! Also the winner of the poll was September 1st-10th, though I went with September 11th-20th.
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Re: When will the first major hurricane of the 2018 Atlantic hurricane season form?

#34 Postby tolakram » Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:38 am

I was 11th to 20th as well.
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Re: When will the first major hurricane of the 2018 Atlantic hurricane season form?

#35 Postby AnnularCane » Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:43 am

Ntxw wrote:September 1-10 voters will likely win. Florence looks like a major out there and may get it today.



I voted September 1-10. And Florence is a major. What do I win? 8-)
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Re: When will the first major hurricane of the 2018 Atlantic hurricane season form?

#36 Postby CyclonicFury » Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:51 am

Right on cue, pretty much. The average first major forms on September 4 and we get our first on September 5. Will be interesting to see if we get any more major hurricanes this season.
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Re: When will the first major hurricane of the 2018 Atlantic hurricane season form?

#37 Postby NDG » Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:10 am

CyclonicFury wrote:Right on cue, pretty much. The average first major forms on September 4 and we get our first on September 5. Will be interesting to see if we get any more major hurricanes this season.


I predicted 2 majors, I wouldn't be surprised if a third one forms.
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Re: When will the first major hurricane of the 2018 Atlantic hurricane season form?

#38 Postby galaxy401 » Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:35 pm

Yeah it was too premature to say there would be no majors this hurricane season. Climatology pretty much said no there.
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Re: When will the first major hurricane of the 2018 Atlantic hurricane season form?

#39 Postby Hammy » Thu Sep 06, 2018 3:18 pm

I was off by two weeks :lol:
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