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#164 Postby CyclonicFury » Fri May 24, 2019 8:48 pm

I'm starting to get concerned that this season could be much more active than originally anticipated. The Atlantic MDR is much warmer at this time than last year, and the AMO pattern as a whole is much more positive. The recent prolonged -NAO has nearly reversed the Atlantic SST setup In addition, the subsurface of the Pacific is still relatively cool - the recent WWB has done little to warm the subsurface so far.

The forecast of El Nino persisting through the season is much more uncertain now. At least three models - the CFS, NASA and JAMSTEC - show ENSO cooling to at least warm neutral levels by ASO. This reflects the relatively cool subsurface. We're also likely going to see a trade burst in the Pacific in early-mid June, which could cool the subsurface further.

Finally, there has been persistent upward motion over Africa throughout most of 2019 - indicating an African standing wave. In addition, precipitable water anomalies in the Sahel region of Africa have been well above average so far in 2019. This likely indicates the onset of a strong West African Monsoon, which would result in stronger tropical waves and slowed trade winds in the eastern tropical Atlantic.

NOAA predicted a near average season despite expecting El Nino to persist. If it doesn't, this season will likely be above average.
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#165 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri May 24, 2019 9:37 pm

:uarrow: Wouldn’t the wetter than average Sahel result in less or less intense SAL outbreaks?

Also, a -NAO (if it were to persist all season) would mean more recurving storms and likely would lessen the U.S. threat from storms and hurricanes a good bit.
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#166 Postby NotSparta » Fri May 24, 2019 10:25 pm

CyclonicFury wrote:I'm starting to get concerned that this season could be much more active than originally anticipated. The Atlantic MDR is much warmer at this time than last year, and the AMO pattern as a whole is much more positive. The recent prolonged -NAO has nearly reversed the Atlantic SST setup In addition, the subsurface of the Pacific is still relatively cool - the recent WWB has done little to warm the subsurface so far.

The forecast of El Nino persisting through the season is much more uncertain now. At least three models - the CFS, NASA and JAMSTEC - show ENSO cooling to at least warm neutral levels by ASO. This reflects the relatively cool subsurface. We're also likely going to see a trade burst in the Pacific in early-mid June, which could cool the subsurface further.

Finally, there has been persistent upward motion over Africa throughout most of 2019 - indicating an African standing wave. In addition, precipitable water anomalies in the Sahel region of Africa have been well above average so far in 2019. This likely indicates the onset of a strong West African Monsoon, which would result in stronger tropical waves and slowed trade winds in the eastern tropical Atlantic.

NOAA predicted a near average season despite expecting El Nino to persist. If it doesn't, this season will likely be above average.


The near normal forecast w/ El Niño seems pretty on brand for the active era (which NOAA said is expected to continue this yr, w/ all the factors from it going into the season). Unfortunately it's starting to look like the Niño isn't staying either. It may stunt the early season, but after that...
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#167 Postby chaser1 » Sat May 25, 2019 1:34 am

NotSparta wrote:
CyclonicFury wrote:I'm starting to get concerned that this season could be much more active than originally anticipated. The Atlantic MDR is much warmer at this time than last year, and the AMO pattern as a whole is much more positive. The recent prolonged -NAO has nearly reversed the Atlantic SST setup In addition, the subsurface of the Pacific is still relatively cool - the recent WWB has done little to warm the subsurface so far.

The forecast of El Nino persisting through the season is much more uncertain now. At least three models - the CFS, NASA and JAMSTEC - show ENSO cooling to at least warm neutral levels by ASO. This reflects the relatively cool subsurface. We're also likely going to see a trade burst in the Pacific in early-mid June, which could cool the subsurface further.

Finally, there has been persistent upward motion over Africa throughout most of 2019 - indicating an African standing wave. In addition, precipitable water anomalies in the Sahel region of Africa have been well above average so far in 2019. This likely indicates the onset of a strong West African Monsoon, which would result in stronger tropical waves and slowed trade winds in the eastern tropical Atlantic.

NOAA predicted a near average season despite expecting El Nino to persist. If it doesn't, this season will likely be above average.


The near normal forecast w/ El Niño seems pretty on brand for the active era (which NOAA said is expected to continue this yr, w/ all the factors from it going into the season). Unfortunately it's starting to look like the Niño isn't staying either. It may stunt the early season, but after that...


Meanwhile, 200-850mb westerly wind shear continues to rip through the Caribbean eastward, all the way to Africa like a wild banshee on crack. Two week forecast suggests a continued hostile tropical Atlantic for the foreseeable future. How hostile will conditions be by the end of July and into August is hard to say. All I know is that Andrea didnt make too much of a closing argument to suggest any dramatic uptick in activity. I think at minimum, we'll see a lag in activity even for a few weeks following warm ENSO SST's begin cooling closer to normal.
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#168 Postby NotSparta » Sat May 25, 2019 5:47 am

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CyclonicFury wrote:I'm starting to get concerned that this season could be much more active than originally anticipated. The Atlantic MDR is much warmer at this time than last year, and the AMO pattern as a whole is much more positive. The recent prolonged -NAO has nearly reversed the Atlantic SST setup In addition, the subsurface of the Pacific is still relatively cool - the recent WWB has done little to warm the subsurface so far.

The forecast of El Nino persisting through the season is much more uncertain now. At least three models - the CFS, NASA and JAMSTEC - show ENSO cooling to at least warm neutral levels by ASO. This reflects the relatively cool subsurface. We're also likely going to see a trade burst in the Pacific in early-mid June, which could cool the subsurface further.

Finally, there has been persistent upward motion over Africa throughout most of 2019 - indicating an African standing wave. In addition, precipitable water anomalies in the Sahel region of Africa have been well above average so far in 2019. This likely indicates the onset of a strong West African Monsoon, which would result in stronger tropical waves and slowed trade winds in the eastern tropical Atlantic.

NOAA predicted a near average season despite expecting El Nino to persist. If it doesn't, this season will likely be above average.


The near normal forecast w/ El Niño seems pretty on brand for the active era (which NOAA said is expected to continue this yr, w/ all the factors from it going into the season). Unfortunately it's starting to look like the Niño isn't staying either. It may stunt the early season, but after that...


Meanwhile, 200-850mb westerly wind shear continues to rip through the Caribbean eastward, all the way to Africa like a wild banshee on crack. Two week forecast suggests a continued hostile tropical Atlantic for the foreseeable future. How hostile will conditions be by the end of July and into August is hard to say. All I know is that Andrea didnt make too much of a closing argument to suggest any dramatic uptick in activity. I think at minimum, we'll see a lag in activity even for a few weeks following warm ENSO SST's begin cooling closer to normal.


Yes, that's not unusual for El Niño, and the tropical Atlantic is typically hostile in May. Since it's still around, the first part of the season looks to be suppressed by El Niño.

Also, of course Andrea didn't suggest an uptick in activity - it was a preseason storm. Even early season storms, for the most part, don't suggest upticks in activity.
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#171 Postby SFLcane » Sat May 25, 2019 10:31 am

On Twitter... :eek:

CFAN's forecast is for a moderate El Nino Modoki during the main part of the hurricane season. Our hurricane forecast will be issued publicly on Jun 3, but we are predicting an active season.
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#172 Postby canes92 » Sat May 25, 2019 2:06 pm

SFLcane wrote:Crown weather...oh Florida :eek:

https://twitter.com/crownweather/status/1131191026071351297


Yikes. Florida doesn't need another hurricane. After over a decade drought, we've gotten hit hard the last 2 years with Irma and Michael. Hopefully this dry weather isn't a foreshadow.
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#173 Postby Hurricaneman » Sat May 25, 2019 3:59 pm

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SFLcane wrote:Crown weather...oh Florida :eek:

https://twitter.com/crownweather/status/1131191026071351297


Yikes. Florida doesn't need another hurricane. After over a decade drought, we've gotten hit hard the last 2 years with Irma and Michael. Hopefully this dry weather isn't a foreshadow.

3 if you count Matthew but it looks like maybe we have entered the 30s through 50s hurricane landfall pattern which means it may go on for a few more years still but as always it could change back to a lower landfall pattern we had for a decade from 2006 to 2015 so we’ll see
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#174 Postby SFLcane » Sat May 25, 2019 11:00 pm

Very favorable look to the Atlantic Basin new CFS wind shear forecast.

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#175 Postby TheStormExpert » Sun May 26, 2019 5:52 am

SFLcane wrote:On Twitter... :eek:

CFAN's forecast is for a moderate El Nino Modoki during the main part of the hurricane season. Our hurricane forecast will be issued publicly on Jun 3, but we are predicting an active season.

That forecast was back from late-March, is the June 3rd update a revised one?
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#176 Postby SFLcane » Sun May 26, 2019 7:25 am

TheStormExpert wrote:
SFLcane wrote:On Twitter... :eek:

CFAN's forecast is for a moderate El Nino Modoki during the main part of the hurricane season. Our hurricane forecast will be issued publicly on Jun 3, but we are predicting an active season.

That forecast was back from late-March, is the June 3rd update a revised one?


That is the new one it was released about a week or two ago.
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#177 Postby AutoPenalti » Sun May 26, 2019 9:14 am

SFLcane wrote:Very favorable look to the Atlantic Basin new CFS wind shear forecast.

http://i67.tinypic.com/96eyq0.jpg

Wow, that looks like La Niña.
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#180 Postby Kingarabian » Mon May 27, 2019 9:55 am

:uarrow:
Big MJO pulses and strong CCKWs are available every season. Depends on local factors such as shear, RH values, and SSTs whether something develops or not.
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