2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#721 Postby gfsperpendicular » Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:59 pm

USTropics wrote:That the models don't show immediate development with these next few AEWs actually concerns me more, typically early development leads to a quicker gain in latitude (e.g. Gabrielle). It means these waves will travel further west before potentially finding a more suitable environment to develop. One thing is for sure, the WAM is now at a dangerous latitude for some waves to track into the Caribbean, with a ton of ammunition coming off the coast in the next few weeks:

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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#722 Postby Steve » Sat Sep 07, 2019 12:26 am

Hard to say what’s going to happen next couple weeks. Might be a delay with the suppressive wave then a reload. JMA likes a drop into Phase 2 or 3 MJO but it’s been on its own. It’s pretty good with MJO but if it’s superseded by some other phenomenon, then it doesn’t matter. GFS still sort of targets south of but toward Bermuda with a 940s system. Legacy is farther west.
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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#723 Postby Steve » Sat Sep 07, 2019 12:28 am

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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#724 Postby WeatherEmperor » Sat Sep 07, 2019 4:58 am

00z Euro, GFS and Canadian all have a storm at 240hrs near the NE Caribbean. Amazing agreement this far out

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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#725 Postby HurricaneMaster_PR » Sat Sep 07, 2019 6:26 am

WeatherEmperor wrote:00z Euro, GFS and Canadian all have a storm at 240hrs near the NE Caribbean. Amazing agreement this far out

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06Z GFS Legacy develops it as well
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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#726 Postby Steve » Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:38 am

Euro 12z had something cross Florida and head into SELA on a wnw heading. I want to see the 00z. GFS rams Florida with maybe a 3. Canadian doesn’t have much other than a SEly flow. Icon brings something toward Florida and shows low pressure in the NE Gulf. Could end up being an interesting week ahead if the JMA hit the MJO best and the European continues to show the weakness.

Edit still shows some low pressure propagating this way. Nothing crazy but the EC is bringing low pressure to this side of the basin.
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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#727 Postby chaser1 » Sun Sep 08, 2019 1:44 am

Steve wrote:Euro 12z had something cross Florida and head into SELA on a wnw heading. I want to see the 00z. GFS rams Florida with maybe a 3. Canadian doesn’t have much other than a SEly flow. Icon brings something toward Florida and shows low pressure in the NE Gulf. Could end up being an interesting week ahead if the JMA hit the MJO best and the European continues to show the weakness.


I'm feeling safe just so long as GFS has Florida as it's bullseye LOL. It's when that changes that I start getting a bit more unnerved here in Central Florida :wink:
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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#728 Postby Hurricaneman » Mon Sep 09, 2019 11:36 pm

Looks as though the GFS has been trying to develop something that is currently over central Africa behind the wave that just left Africa, maybe something to keep an eye on in future runs
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2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#729 Postby MJGarrison » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:41 am

Hurricaneman wrote:Looks as though the GFS has been trying to develop something that is currently over central Africa behind the wave that just left Africa, maybe something to keep an eye on in future runs


Can we call this one the wave east of the wave east of 94L? :)


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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#730 Postby Hammy » Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:30 am

Image Canadian back to being the crazy uncle of forecast models?
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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#731 Postby Tailspin » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:56 am

Hammy wrote:https://i.imgur.com/pJD4tTA.png Canadian back to being the crazy uncle of forecast models?

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00z 10th looked more legit.
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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#732 Postby StruThiO » Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:50 pm

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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#733 Postby Hurricaneman » Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:58 pm



It may just happen, the mjo will be going into the phases 8 And 1 the next 15 days
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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#734 Postby Nimbus » Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:53 am

chaser1 wrote:
Steve wrote:Euro 12z had something cross Florida and head into SELA on a wnw heading. I want to see the 00z. GFS rams Florida with maybe a 3. Canadian doesn’t have much other than a SEly flow. Icon brings something toward Florida and shows low pressure in the NE Gulf. Could end up being an interesting week ahead if the JMA hit the MJO best and the European continues to show the weakness.


I'm feeling safe just so long as GFS has Florida as it's bullseye LOL. It's when that changes that I start getting a bit more unnerved here in Central Florida :wink:



Some low level energy did make into the gulf but there is too much shear from the upper level low to even consider an invest there at this time.
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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#735 Postby srainhoutx » Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:14 am

I guess no one wants to discuss the potential Western/NW Gulf disturbance that has some ensemble support for possible genesis in the 48 to 96 hour range. I give that area of 40% possibility of seeing TC Genesis as the mid/upper low fills in and attempts to become warm cored with a surface low around Monday or Tuesday.
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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#736 Postby SoupBone » Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:28 am

srainhoutx wrote:I guess no one wants to discuss the potential Western/NW Gulf disturbance that has some ensemble support for possible genesis in the 48 to 96 hour range. I give that area of 40% possibility of seeing TC Genesis as the mid/upper low fills in and attempts to become warm cored with a surface low around Monday or Tuesday.



Our paid guys discussed it in this morning's report and give it only 5% chance of development. They do comment that it could bring rain to South Texas, which wouldn't be a bad thing.
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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#737 Postby Kingarabian » Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:40 pm

Last couple of Euro runs don't show much in the long range. However the GFS continues to show a hurricane developing NE of the islands by day 10.
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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#738 Postby Steve » Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:24 pm

srainhoutx wrote:I guess no one wants to discuss the potential Western/NW Gulf disturbance that has some ensemble support for possible genesis in the 48 to 96 hour range. I give that area of 40% possibility of seeing TC Genesis as the mid/upper low fills in and attempts to become warm cored with a surface low around Monday or Tuesday.


Energy is there. Looks like and upper low with a surface trough behind it. I haven’t looked at the Gulf surface plots, but I’m assuming some of those showers are shear induced within an overall cyclonic pattern.
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/sat/sat ... t=vis-swir
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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#739 Postby Steve » Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:30 pm

Also you can see the umbrella shape which was depicted in some of the models before they could resolve there would be split energy instead of a TS in the NE Gulf. No models really do anything with it except the NAM and RGEM do hint at some turning - just nothing past infant stage.
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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#740 Postby sphelps8681 » Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:23 pm

srainhoutx wrote:I guess no one wants to discuss the potential Western/NW Gulf disturbance that has some ensemble support for possible genesis in the 48 to 96 hour range. I give that area of 40% possibility of seeing TC Genesis as the mid/upper low fills in and attempts to become warm cored with a surface low around Monday or Tuesday.


Just heard about it on the local news.
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