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Mediterranean TCRs

#1 Postby Vince_and_Grace_fan » Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:47 pm

Hi!
I made this topic to put here my TCRs to Mediterranean systems. :)

I finised Otilie's report, which is available here: http://zivipotty.hu/2018_otilie.pdf (or from here if that link don't work: http://zivipotty.hu/tcr.html )
This was the firs cyclone last year that formed over the Tyrrhenian Sea.

Reports from Zorbas and Numa (2017) also will be coming within some weeks.
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Re: Mediterranean TCRs

#2 Postby djones65 » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:54 pm

Very, very nice V&G fan!!!
You did a fantastic job! And I appreciated the graphics.
I look forward to your future reports.
Well done!
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Re: Mediterranean TCRs

#3 Postby GSBHurricane » Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:20 pm

One word. Wow. Just wow.
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Re: Mediterranean TCRs

#4 Postby Vince_and_Grace_fan » Fri Mar 29, 2019 8:29 am

Report from TS Zorbas is done: http://zivipotty.hu/2018_zorbas.pdf (or from here: http://zivipotty.hu/tcr.html )
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Re: Mediterranean TCRs

#5 Postby djones65 » Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:07 pm

Excellent report once again!
However, based on the surface reports you provided along with the satellite imagery... I can make a case that Zorbas may have actually been a hurricane just as it made landfall.
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Re: Mediterranean TCRs - Ianos report is done

#6 Postby Vince_and_Grace_fan » Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:14 pm

I finished Ianos's report: http://zivipotty.hu/2020_ianos.pdf (or from here if the link not working: http://zivipotty.hu/tcr.html)
I put the peak intensity to 75 kt which is maybe a bit conservative, but based on the 984 hPa pressure data at the landfall I think that the 85 kt 1-min wind overrepresented the real intensity. I saw on Twitter that a Greek report will come out in the next weeks/mounths which included more data, I am waiting it excited.

And based on Ianos, I now think more possible that Zorbas in 2018 also briefly reached the hurricane intensity. The ASCAT measured 50 kt maximum wind a few hours before the landfall like in this case.
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Re: Mediterranean TCRs

#7 Postby DanieleItalyRm » Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:07 pm

I really admire your analysies on the Mediterranean cyclones Herincs David. Especially the tables with the various phases and intensity peaks. I wonder if you will do a similar job with 03M Andira (Elaina) on the eastern Mediterranean on this past December.
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Re: Mediterranean TCRs

#8 Postby Vince_and_Grace_fan » Mon Jan 11, 2021 5:28 am

DanieleItalyRm wrote:I really admire your analysies on the Mediterranean cyclones Herincs David. Especially the tables with the various phases and intensity peaks. I wonder if you will do a similar job with 03M Andira (Elaina) on the eastern Mediterranean on this past December.
Daniele


Thanks! :)
I will have a bit harder work with Andira because much less data was available associated with it than with Ianos, but I try to do an acceptable estimation.

But I'm currently working on Detlef's (2019) report, I will likely finish it in a week.
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Re: Mediterranean TCRs

#9 Postby DanieleItalyRm » Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:56 am

Vince_and_Grace_fan wrote:
DanieleItalyRm wrote:I really admire your analysies on the Mediterranean cyclones Herincs David. Especially the tables with the various phases and intensity peaks. I wonder if you will do a similar job with 03M Andira (Elaina) on the eastern Mediterranean on this past December.
Daniele


Thanks! :)
I will have a bit harder work with Andira because much less data was available associated with it than with Ianos, but I try to do an acceptable estimation.

But I'm currently working on Detlef's (2019) report, I will likely finish it in a week.


In the Future it would be fantastic of you a similar work for the main Mediterranean TC of the past (even if I understand you will find much less data) or at least a consistent track with the various phases and base on Dvoark technique:

CLICK on Vis to loop Sat:

Oct.1996
http://meteorologia.uib.eu/medicanes/me ... icane.html

Jan.1995
http://meteorologia.uib.eu/medicanes/me ... icane.html

Dec.1985
http://meteorologia.uib.eu/medicanes/me ... icane.html

Sept.1983
http://meteorologia.uib.eu/medicanes/me ... icane.html

Jan.1982
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Re: Mediterranean TCRs - Detlef report is done

#10 Postby Vince_and_Grace_fan » Thu Jan 21, 2021 4:59 pm

It lasted a few days longer, but here is the report from Detlef: http://zivipotty.hu/2019_detlef.pdf (or from here: http://zivipotty.hu/tcr.html)
According to the upper level environment, it remained rather subtropical despite the well-defined structure just before the landfall.
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Re: Mediterranean TCRs - Detlef report is done

#11 Postby DanieleItalyRm » Tue Jan 26, 2021 4:14 am

Vince_and_Grace_fan wrote:It lasted a few days longer, but here is the report from Detlef: http://zivipotty.hu/2019_detlef.pdf (or from here: http://zivipotty.hu/tcr.html)
According to the upper level environment, it remained rather subtropical despite the well-defined structure just before the landfall.

Good Job Hérincs. I Agree with you. In the end I also concluded that Detlef has not completed a tropical transition (also because it was too close to landfall). The system was still a little connected to the front and to the infrared the convective bands around the eye were more "ironed" than those of a real CDO. For this reasons Detlef it is more suitable as a Subtropical. Similarly like Qendresa, although Qendresa had perhaps for a few hours attained a tropical status close to eastern Sicily.
I hope you also have in mind the cyclone Numa from November 2017. I am sure that Numa was completely Tropical during the night between November 17th and 18th.
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