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Re: Watching NE GOM for tropical development

#301 Postby LeonardRay » Mon Jul 08, 2019 12:09 am

so at 5 days out and no center developed yet....I'm sure the trends will continue to swing back and forth. However there is starting to be a consensus with most of the models.
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Re: Watching NE GOM for tropical development

#302 Postby USTropics » Mon Jul 08, 2019 12:23 am

00z UKMET operational:

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Re: Watching NE GOM for tropical development

#303 Postby Haris » Mon Jul 08, 2019 12:33 am

70% chance on 2am update NHC now.
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Re: Watching NE GOM for tropical development

#304 Postby ColdMiser123 » Mon Jul 08, 2019 12:34 am

2 am TWO up to 70%:

ZCZC MIATWOAT ALL
TTAA00 KNHC DDHHMM

Tropical Weather Outlook
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
200 AM EDT Mon Jul 8 2019

For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico:

1. A trough of low pressure located over the southeastern United States
is forecast to move southward toward the northeastern Gulf of
Mexico, where a broad area of low pressure will likely form in a
couple of days. Some gradual development is possible thereafter and
a tropical depression could form by the end of the week while the
low meanders near the northern Gulf Coast. Regardless of
development, this system has the potential to produce heavy rainfall
along portions of the northern U.S. Gulf Coast later this week. For
more information about the rainfall threat, please see products
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Prediction Center. Interests along the northern Gulf Coast and
Florida peninsula should monitor the progress of this system.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...high...70 percent.

Forecaster Latto/Pasch
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Re: Watching NE GOM for tropical development

#305 Postby TheProfessor » Mon Jul 08, 2019 12:34 am

The Ukie really ramps the storm up over an 18-24 hour period before landfall, might be the first signs of an attempted RI on the models and something that should be watched in the case of a storm forming and moving over those very warm waters with good atmospheric conditions.
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Re: Watching NE GOM for tropical development

#306 Postby LeonardRay » Mon Jul 08, 2019 12:42 am

TheProfessor wrote:The Ukie really ramps the storm up over an 18-24 hour period before landfall, might be the first signs of an attempted RI on the models and something that should be watched in the case of a storm forming and moving over those very warm waters with good atmospheric conditions.


what location is it targeting? How strong?
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Re: Watching NE GOM for tropical development

#307 Postby ColdMiser123 » Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:06 am

More ridging NE of the disturbance so far through 66 hours compared to 12z on the Euro.
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Re: Watching NE GOM for tropical development

#308 Postby chaser1 » Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:09 am

I'm looking at every satellite channel trying to find any remote point of mid level turning but all that I'm seeing is an increasingly sharp ENE/WSW trough slipping slowly southward. Gonna have to check some more land bouy reports to find this thing lol
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Re: Watching NE GOM for tropical development

#309 Postby ColdMiser123 » Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:11 am

A decent tick southwest of 12z so far.
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Re: Watching NE GOM for tropical development

#310 Postby LeonardRay » Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:22 am

curving towards upper texas coast at 120 hours
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Re: Watching NE GOM for tropical development

#311 Postby Haris » Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:24 am

Wow. this is getting interesting... 0z euro heading towards Texas it appears
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Re: Watching NE GOM for tropical development

#312 Postby LeonardRay » Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:26 am

Haris wrote:Wow. this is getting interesting... 0z euro heading towards Texas it appears


heading towards Texas and deepening
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Re: Watching NE GOM for tropical development

#313 Postby TheProfessor » Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:27 am

LeonardRay wrote:
TheProfessor wrote:The Ukie really ramps the storm up over an 18-24 hour period before landfall, might be the first signs of an attempted RI on the models and something that should be watched in the case of a storm forming and moving over those very warm waters with good atmospheric conditions.


what location is it targeting? How strong?


The 0z Ukie made landfall right around the Mississippi and Alabama border and probably somewhere close to a pressure of 980-984 mb, I do believe the text output said 981 mb right around landfall, but landfall happens between frames this run. That's just one model run and one model however. The overall trend has been westward tonight so that's what we should be looking at right now.
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Re: Watching NE GOM for tropical development

#314 Postby TheProfessor » Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:29 am

Man if this thing really heads for western La or the Texas coast it's going to get a lot of time over very warm waters.
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Re: Watching NE GOM for tropical development

#315 Postby LeonardRay » Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:30 am

came onshore near galveston at what appears to be cat 1 or 2 at 144 hours
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Re: Watching NE GOM for tropical development

#316 Postby USTropics » Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:41 am

987mb on the low-res ECMWF, landfall very near the LA/TX border:

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Re: Watching NE GOM for tropical development

#317 Postby Dylan » Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:47 am

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Re: Watching NE GOM for tropical development

#318 Postby USTropics » Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:05 am

Quite impressive consolidation of vorticity at 850mb levels the past 24 hours, see CIMSS loop below:

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Re: Watching NE GOM for tropical development

#319 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:09 am

00z Euro run: 984mb landfall just west of the TX/LA border, maximum 10M winds were 50kts, 850mb winds (gusts?) were 85kts. I don't know why there's such a huge disparity between near surface winds and 850mb winds.

00z Euro low resolution run, hours 72-168:
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Re: Watching NE GOM for tropical development

#320 Postby GCANE » Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:36 am

Looking at CIMSS, 850mb and 700mb vorts are nicely stacked and appear to be moving direclty south along the AL / GA border.
Good chance it'll exit into the water in the middle of the panhandle.
An UL PV anomaly is just to the west but appears to be dissipating.
Shear is basically non existant due to the entrenched anticyclone.
This looks like it may ramp up quickly since the NE GOM has very extreme CAPE air over it.
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