Tropical Wave Near the Coast of Africa (Is Invest 93L)

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Re: Tropical Wave Near the Coast of Africa

#21 Postby bob rulz » Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:03 pm

Does ASCAT analyze systems this far east?
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Re: Tropical Wave Near the Coast of Africa

#22 Postby IsabelaWeather » Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:06 pm

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cainjamin wrote:Not mentioned in the 2pm TWO which is a little surprising. The wave clearly has a good amount of mid-level rotation and decent conditions ahead of it for the next day or so. The GFS does develop this slightly but dissipates it after passing the islands.

Wouldn't even look at long range GFS forecasts



I believe he was talking about the Cabo verde islands and not the Antilles.
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Re: Tropical Wave Near the Coast of Africa

#23 Postby cainjamin » Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:08 pm

IsabelaWeather wrote:
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cainjamin wrote:Not mentioned in the 2pm TWO which is a little surprising. The wave clearly has a good amount of mid-level rotation and decent conditions ahead of it for the next day or so. The GFS does develop this slightly but dissipates it after passing the islands.

Wouldn't even look at long range GFS forecasts



I believe he was talking about the Cabo verde islands and not the Antilles.


Whoops, yes I was! Probably should have specified which islands.
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Re: Tropical Wave Near the Coast of Africa

#24 Postby AJC3 » Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:15 pm

bob rulz wrote:Does ASCAT analyze systems this far east?


Yes. ASCAT is a polar-orbiting environmental satellite (POES), and all POES circumnavigate the entire globe.

One issue is that its coverage swaths are have gaps due to the limitation of its field of view.
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Re: Tropical Wave Near the Coast of Africa

#25 Postby bob rulz » Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:34 pm

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bob rulz wrote:Does ASCAT analyze systems this far east?


Yes. ASCAT is a polar-orbiting environmental satellite (POES), and all POES circumnavigate the entire globe.

One issue is that its coverage swaths are have gaps due to the limitation of its field of view.


Good to know, all this time tracking hurricanes and I never really knew this.

Is that field of view limitation why ASCAT sometimes misses systems?

Regardless would be interesting to see what ASCAT would find in this system. Same as others, I'm surprised NHC didn't at least mention this in the TWO
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Re: Tropical Wave Near the Coast of Africa

#26 Postby EquusStorm » Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:36 pm

I think ASCAT missed it most recently, assuming it was even fully offshore then; hopefully it holds together until we can get a pass over it
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Re: Tropical Wave Near the Coast of Africa

#27 Postby tiger_deF » Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:40 pm

Where could I find a satellite loop of that location?
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Re: Tropical Wave Near the Coast of Africa

#28 Postby EquusStorm » Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:42 pm

Weathernerds.org has a great custom loop feature, that's where I usually go
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Re: Tropical Wave Near the Coast of Africa

#29 Postby northjaxpro » Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:48 pm

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Kazmit wrote:Not even a mention from the NHC? What??

Any model develops this?


I commented on this system yesterday..This is the best looking system to emerge off the Africa Coast so far.

It is no question in my skilled analysis that this is a full fledged TC right now ,and a very healthy one at that!
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Re: Tropical Wave Near the Coast of Africa

#30 Postby AJC3 » Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:49 pm

bob rulz wrote:
AJC3 wrote:
bob rulz wrote:Does ASCAT analyze systems this far east?


Yes. ASCAT is a polar-orbiting environmental satellite (POES), and all POES circumnavigate the entire globe.

One issue is that its coverage swaths are have gaps due to the limitation of its field of view.


Good to know, all this time tracking hurricanes and I never really knew this.

Is that field of view limitation why ASCAT sometimes misses systems?

Regardless would be interesting to see what ASCAT would find in this system. Same as others, I'm surprised NHC didn't at least mention this in the TWO


Check out the ASCAT web pages for METOP-A and METOP-B to get a good feel for what the global swath coverage looks like...

https://manati.orbit.nesdis.noaa.gov/da ... ATData.php
https://manati.orbit.nesdis.noaa.gov/da ... TBData.php
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Re: Tropical Wave Near the Coast of Africa

#31 Postby AJC3 » Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:54 pm

This was the last decent ASCAT pass I remember seeing (0947 UTC or 547 AM EDT)

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Re: Tropical Wave Near the Coast of Africa

#32 Postby AnnularCane » Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:20 pm

What is supposed to make this turn NW so soon? Seems like a waste of such a beautiful wave. :cry:
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Re: Tropical Wave Near the Coast of Africa

#33 Postby abajan » Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:01 pm

tiger_deF wrote:Where could I find a satellite loop of that location?

The Tropical Tidbits satellite page, and also Weathernerds (as EquusStorm mentioned)
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Re: Tropical Wave Near the Coast of Africa

#34 Postby HurricaneEnzo » Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:45 pm

Looks like it is pretty much stalled off the African coast. Is that odd? I don't really recall ever seeing it. Will will the wave about to come off the African coast push it away or will it eat the wave?

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Re: Tropical Wave Near the Coast of Africa

#35 Postby TheStormExpert » Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:50 pm

Why hasn’t the NHC given this development chances already!? I mean it looks more impressive than PTC-9!

 https://twitter.com/pppapin/status/1288636412762431488


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Re: Tropical Wave Near the Coast of Africa

#36 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:58 pm

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Re: Tropical Wave Near the Coast of Africa

#37 Postby eastcoastFL » Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:30 pm

northjaxpro wrote:
AutoPenalti wrote:
Kazmit wrote:Not even a mention from the NHC? What??

Any model develops this?


I commented on this system yesterday..This is the best looking system to emerge off the Africa Coast so far.

It is no question in my skilled analysis that this is a full fledged TC right now ,and a very healthy one at that!



Do you think it has a chance to be named or is there some doom in its future keeping the NHC from giving it a mention?
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Re: Tropical Wave Near the Coast of Africa

#38 Postby MetroMike » Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:37 pm

Wasn't this suppose to have a chance to develop but only to re-curve shortly thereafter?
Would not be naming that if I had the choice.
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Re: Tropical Wave Near the Coast of Africa

#39 Postby MississippiWx » Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:07 pm

This is something you’d expect to see in late August into September, not late July. The NHC is sound asleep on this one.
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Re: Tropical Wave Near the Coast of Africa

#40 Postby captainbarbossa19 » Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:08 pm

MississippiWx wrote:This is something you’d expect to see in late August into September, not late July. The NHC is sound asleep on this one.


This is quite unsettling when the average peak of the season is in September. Of course, it is possible that the peak could occur in August this year. The peak isn't always in September. Either way, we need to monitor closely these systems emerging off the African coast. If shear and dry air diminish soon, storms could start to organize much faster than Isaias.
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