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Eastern Caribbean south of DR

#1 Postby Frank P » Fri Sep 04, 2020 9:41 am

Eastern Caribbean looks juiced... south of DR moving west. ATT looks robust. Has no one posted on it yet?

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Re: Eastern Caribbean south of DR

#2 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Sep 04, 2020 9:54 am

Not sure we really need this thread.

the circ just east of this convection should catch up to it soon.

it is already beginning to move under the outflow canopy.
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Re: Eastern Caribbean south of DR

#3 Postby Hurricaneman » Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:02 am

I dont know why the models do nothing with it, could be another whiff by the models looking at things
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Re: Eastern Caribbean south of DR

#4 Postby Frank P » Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:10 am

Aric Dunn wrote:Not sure we really need this thread.

the circ just east of this convection should catch up to it soon.

it is already beginning to move under the outflow canopy.

We must not be looking at the same vis sat loops, this is much farther west and looks at least to me, much more dominant, than that little wave passing thru the Lesser Antilles.. just my opinion...the wave passing thru the LA islands does have a circulation but devoid of any real convection att.. looks like a naked little swirl on the vis loops
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Re: Eastern Caribbean south of DR

#5 Postby SFLcane » Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:17 am

Forced by upper diffluence.... Could be a broad low in the Gulf. No indications of significant development
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Re: Eastern Caribbean south of DR

#6 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:18 am

Frank P wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:Not sure we really need this thread.

the circ just east of this convection should catch up to it soon.

it is already beginning to move under the outflow canopy.

We must not be looking at the same vis sat loops, this is much farther west and looks at least to me, much more dominant, than that little wave passing thru the Lesser Antilles.. just my opinion...the wave passing thru the LA islands does have a circulation but devoid of any real convection att.. looks like a naked little swirl on the vis loops


just saying they should become one.. :P
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Re: Eastern Caribbean south of DR

#7 Postby Frank P » Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:29 am

Aric Dunn wrote:
Frank P wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:Not sure we really need this thread.

the circ just east of this convection should catch up to it soon.

it is already beginning to move under the outflow canopy.

We must not be looking at the same vis sat loops, this is much farther west and looks at least to me, much more dominant, than that little wave passing thru the Lesser Antilles.. just my opinion...the wave passing thru the LA islands does have a circulation but devoid of any real convection att.. looks like a naked little swirl on the vis loops


just saying they should become one.. :P


I’m going to bet on the bigger one... they both appear to be moving in the same general direction and speed... guess we’ll find out soon enough... but the way this system is going thus far, sure seems like a whole bunch of waves without any model support end up developing... maybe this one will too... maybe not! Not often I ever disagree with you Aric... :D :D
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Re: Eastern Caribbean south of DR

#8 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:31 am

Frank P wrote:
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Frank P wrote:We must not be looking at the same vis sat loops, this is much farther west and looks at least to me, much more dominant, than that little wave passing thru the Lesser Antilles.. just my opinion...the wave passing thru the LA islands does have a circulation but devoid of any real convection att.. looks like a naked little swirl on the vis loops


just saying they should become one.. :P


I’m going to bet on the bigger one... they both appear to be moving in the same general direction and speed... guess we’ll find out soon enough... but the way this system is going thus far, sure seems like a whole bunch of waves without any model support end up developing... maybe this one will too... maybe not! Not often I ever disagree with you Aric... :D :D



the convection is being held in place by the divergent flow .. while the circ to the east is clearly gainning on it. and may actually begin popping its own convection as it reaches the divergent flow.

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Re: Eastern Caribbean south of DR

#9 Postby aspen » Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:38 am

Aric Dunn wrote:
Frank P wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:
just saying they should become one.. :P


I’m going to bet on the bigger one... they both appear to be moving in the same general direction and speed... guess we’ll find out soon enough... but the way this system is going thus far, sure seems like a whole bunch of waves without any model support end up developing... maybe this one will too... maybe not! Not often I ever disagree with you Aric... :D :D



the convection is being held in place by the divergent flow .. while the circ to the east is clearly gainning on it. and may actually begin popping its own convection as it reaches the divergent flow.

https://i.ibb.co/q9y3VTV/RE-20200904-152940.gif

If the two disturbances come together, could we see a TC try to rapidly develop?
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Re: Eastern Caribbean wave south of DR

#10 Postby NDG » Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:58 am

Hard to believe that nothing will come out from both of these systems, especially since there will not be strong cold front sweeping across the GOM as earlier shown by the GFS.
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Re: Eastern Caribbean south of DR

#11 Postby Frank P » Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:00 am

Aric Dunn wrote:
Frank P wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:
just saying they should become one.. :P


I’m going to bet on the bigger one... they both appear to be moving in the same general direction and speed... guess we’ll find out soon enough... but the way this system is going thus far, sure seems like a whole bunch of waves without any model support end up developing... maybe this one will too... maybe not! Not often I ever disagree with you Aric... :D :D



the convection is being held in place by the divergent flow .. while the circ to the east is clearly gainning on it. and may actually begin popping its own convection as it reaches the divergent flow.

https://i.ibb.co/q9y3VTV/RE-20200904-152940.gif


Just noticed the convection on the eastern most wave is trying to fire up some convection near on what appears to be the center of rotation.. should be interesting to watch how it unfolds today..
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Re: Eastern Caribbean south of DR

#12 Postby Blinhart » Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:01 am

Could this be the system that the GFS Para actually spins up in the GoM next week, if this continues to drift around in the Caribbean before going into the Gulf.
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Re: Eastern Caribbean south of DR

#13 Postby EquusStorm » Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:07 am

It's so weird this year having to essentially ignore modeling and just watch every swirl and thunderstorm over warm waters for sudden development. Honestly wouldn't surprise me
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Re: Eastern Caribbean south of DR

#14 Postby Laminar » Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:09 am

EquusStorm wrote:It's so weird this year having to essentially ignore modeling and just watch every swirl and thunderstorm over warm waters for sudden development. Honestly wouldn't surprise me

One would be foolish not to keep one eye on the swirls - especially with the model perfomance ... or lack thereof, we have see so far this year.
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Re: Eastern Caribbean south of DR

#15 Postby mpic » Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:22 am

NDG wrote:Hard to believe that nothing will come out from both of these systems, especially since there will not be strong cold front sweeping across the GOM as earlier shown by the GFS.


It's not coming? Please don't dash my hopes. I have big plans for rearranging my shed. :(
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Re: Eastern Caribbean south of DR

#16 Postby psyclone » Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:57 am

This is really eyebrow raising. It has the look of trouble at a time of year that trouble finds a way to happen.
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Re: Eastern Caribbean south of DR

#17 Postby SFLcane » Fri Sep 04, 2020 12:02 pm

NDG wrote:Hard to believe that nothing will come out from both of these systems, especially since there will not be strong cold front sweeping across the GOM as earlier shown by the GFS.


I could see a 10% added but I see no signs of development right now. Convection is being forced by upper diffluence. Cloud tops warming
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Re: Eastern Caribbean south of DR

#18 Postby TallahasseeMan » Fri Sep 04, 2020 12:04 pm

Anyone else seeing some circulation in the last few frames of the visible or am I misreading?
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Re: Eastern Caribbean south of DR

#19 Postby FireRat » Fri Sep 04, 2020 1:39 pm

TallahasseeMan wrote:Anyone else seeing some circulation in the last few frames of the visible or am I misreading?


Yep, I'm seeing some twist in this system in the last few frames. Me thinks the NHC is gonna start making more lemonade real soon
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Re: Eastern Caribbean south of DR

#20 Postby Frank P » Fri Sep 04, 2020 2:01 pm

Perhaps some weak mid level circulation, appears nothing at the surface, looks to be moving off to the NW or NNW on the latest sat loops.. looked better earlier this morning, but it’s still hanging around... may wash out, may not... lots of quick spin ups this year!
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