2021 WPAC Season

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Re: 2021 WPAC Season

#201 Postby Hayabusa » Mon May 17, 2021 12:10 am

Can't say I'm surprised GFS backed off (8 more consistent runs was I needed but it failed), but it would be hard to consider nothing would form by week 3 or for the rest of the May given the MJO we have. CMC which didn't fall to GFS trickery is showing something forming in 10 days.
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Re: 2021 WPAC Season

#202 Postby euro6208 » Mon May 17, 2021 6:41 am

GFS continues to develop whatever is left of what once the Phantom system in the SCS. However, EURO looks to pick it up as well.

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Also has the long range TC developing near the Marianas.

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Re: 2021 WPAC Season

#203 Postby euro6208 » Mon May 17, 2021 6:59 am

Very high MIMIC PWats across a large area with 2.25 to 2.5/3.0 in some areas. Omega lift values are above and off the charts for many areas. The past few days has seen incredible amounts of rainfall.

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Re: 2021 WPAC Season

#204 Postby euro6208 » Tue May 18, 2021 9:42 am

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Re: 2021 WPAC Season

#205 Postby euro6208 » Wed May 19, 2021 6:38 pm

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The eastward shifting intraseasonal variability currently over the Eastern Hemisphere, as outlined above, favors increased TC formation chances initially over the Indian Ocean and South China Sea which then shifts to the South China Sea and West Pacific by late May. Confidence is high for a system to develop over the Bay of Bengal next week, with the GFS potentially having this system not form until early in Week-2. Regardless, there is enough support among the ECMWF and GEFS ensembles for high confidence of tropical cyclone formation here during Week-1. Moderate confidence also exists for two possible instances of TC development over the South China Sea for both Week-1 and Week-2, with the highlighted area shifting north with time. The other area highlighted on the map for moderate confidence of TC formation spans from Guam and the Northern Marianas east-southeastward toward to near 10N/165E where Rossby wave activity is anticipated. Lastly, moderate confidence exists for tropical cyclogenesis across a region between approximately 5-10N and 87-102W over the East Pacific tied to the favorable large-scale environment from the Kelvin wave passage coupled with improving climatological background conditions.
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Re: 2021 WPAC Season

#206 Postby euro6208 » Wed May 19, 2021 6:43 pm

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Re: 2021 WPAC Season

#207 Postby euro6208 » Thu May 20, 2021 7:06 am

CMC in perfect agreement with the usually consistent GFS.

EURO shows limited development for the SCS and 1st system.
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Re: 2021 WPAC Season

#208 Postby euro6208 » Thu May 20, 2021 7:12 am

Over at the South
China Sea and southeast Asia, evidence of the eastern end of a
monsoon trough extending from the Indian Ocean can be seen on the
latest VIS and IR satellite loop. With the positive phase of a MJO
entering far western Micronesia early next week, there is a good
chance this early season monsoon trough will extend southeastward
across the southern Philippine into the Republic of Palau and Yap
State. Therefore, unstable conditions are anticipated for both Koror
and Yap most of next week. Once the twin upper lows strengthen toward
midweek next week, things could get even more active.
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Re: 2021 WPAC Season

#209 Postby Kingarabian » Thu May 20, 2021 3:35 pm

GFS has some support from the CMC now:
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Re: 2021 WPAC Season

#210 Postby euro6208 » Thu May 20, 2021 7:24 pm

GFS trending weaker on the strengths but still liking the idea of 2-3 TC's developing the next 2 weeks.
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Re: 2021 WPAC Season

#211 Postby euro6208 » Fri May 21, 2021 12:35 am

GFS ditches the 3rd system and bottoms the Marianas system to 931mb with a recurve track that takes it near Japan. Development in 180 hours.
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Re: 2021 WPAC Season

#212 Postby Kingarabian » Fri May 21, 2021 3:07 pm

12z CMC has triplets, with the latter two becoming the strongest and could become twin typhoons.

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12z GFS has a strong typhoon.
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Re: 2021 WPAC Season

#213 Postby Hayabusa » Fri May 21, 2021 3:27 pm

Kingarabian wrote:12z CMC has triplets, with the latter two becoming the strongest and could become twin typhoons.

https://i.imgur.com/J87ZV69.png

12z GFS has a strong typhoon.

And consistently nothing on the Euro (at least on the Pacific side) though EPS is hinting development but it's weak. Really with this MJO nothing will form from this? :lol:
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Re: 2021 WPAC Season

#214 Postby Kingarabian » Fri May 21, 2021 3:45 pm

Hayabusa wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:12z CMC has triplets, with the latter two becoming the strongest and could become twin typhoons.

https://i.imgur.com/J87ZV69.png

12z GFS has a strong typhoon.

And consistently nothing on the Euro (at least on the Pacific side) though EPS is hinting development but it's weak. Really with this MJO nothing will form from this? :lol:
[url]https://i.postimg.cc/26HxfLHb/mjo-May21-2021-18z.png[url]

Yeah. It's a legit MJO pulse with the Euro even showing extended westerly anomalies in the WPAC.

The CMC shows development which is enough for me. I pay more and more attention to the CMC now. Its intensity forecasts are questionable sometimes, but in the medium range, the model does a good job in sniffing out TC development compared to the Euro which looks to be too conservative so far this season. It also does not develop every disturbance into a major hurricane as the GFS likes to do.
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Re: 2021 WPAC Season

#215 Postby euro6208 » Fri May 21, 2021 9:26 pm

EURO on board while GFS leans towards CMC's forecast of twin typhoons.

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Re: 2021 WPAC Season

#216 Postby Kingarabian » Sat May 22, 2021 1:58 pm

12z GFS and CMC continue to show twin typhoons while the 12z Euro closes off a large low pressure system just east of the Philippines.
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Re: 2021 WPAC Season

#217 Postby Hayabusa » Sat May 22, 2021 2:54 pm

Still no solid development from the Euro but ensemble is getting interesting
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Re: 2021 WPAC Season

#218 Postby euro6208 » Sun May 23, 2021 4:43 am

GFS no longer forecast twin typhoons. It strengthens the first one into a Cat 4/5, the second one weaker. Overall shows a very active basin with multiple systems.

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Re: 2021 WPAC Season

#219 Postby euro6208 » Sun May 23, 2021 4:54 am

CMC similiar with both systems.
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Re: 2021 WPAC Season

#220 Postby euro6208 » Sun May 23, 2021 7:33 am

The main forecast challenge is determining rainfall potential for
the latter half of the week, as a slowly developing tropical
system passes by to our south. The GFS continues to be too far
north and too fast to spin up a tropical cyclone (like it usually
does), with the ECMWF (European) model never really developing a
system (also a typical pattern until it "sees the lights of its
eyes", with the NAVGEM a good intermediate model in timing, but it
has been all over the place in terms of positioning and strength,
where the 12z run had a tropical storm hitting Saipan on
Thursday, and now the 00z showing a system potentially of
depression intensity passing by well south of the marianas.

This looks like a familiar pattern, as these models did the same
thing with Super Typhoon Surigae a month or so ago. That said, we
wanted to give it another forecast cycle to re-evaluate the need
to push back timing of the better rainfall potential, while also
possibly trimming the thunderstorm coverage to perhaps just near
Guam or Rota. Given the uncertainty, as the models remain in flux,
decided not to make any adjustments to this regard for now.



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