AnnularCane wrote:All I see is that they're starting the outlooks on the 15th, which I think we knew already. I don't see anything about the actual season starting then.
You are right. In the WMO meeting is when it will be decided.
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AnnularCane wrote:All I see is that they're starting the outlooks on the 15th, which I think we knew already. I don't see anything about the actual season starting then.
wxman57 wrote:I see this as a solution without a problem. There is no problem in keeping things as they are. IF there is a tropical disturbance that develops out of the pre-defined season, then the NHC can simply initiate daily outlooks for the disturbance. These can be issued as often as is deemed necessary. Advisories would be issued as they normally would be for an "in-season" storm. No one is left un-warned.
mitchell wrote:wxman57 wrote:I see this as a solution without a problem. There is no problem in keeping things as they are. IF there is a tropical disturbance that develops out of the pre-defined season, then the NHC can simply initiate daily outlooks for the disturbance. These can be issued as often as is deemed necessary. Advisories would be issued as they normally would be for an "in-season" storm. No one is left un-warned.
I see it a bit differently, only in terms of communicating risk - not the science part. When the "official season" begins on June 1, and systems frequently develop earlier (8 out of the last 20 years) it creates the impression ((rightly or wrongly) that the early system is unexpected, rare, or indicative of some unusual weather pattern, climate change trend, or forecasting uncertainty. I would argue it is complicated enough to communicate with the public about tropical weather risk, so eliminating any sources of confusion, skepticism, or excuse for unpreparedness is worthwhile. It helps that I don't see any downside to the 15 day adjustment. Is there a downside?
wxman57 wrote:mitchell wrote:wxman57 wrote:I see this as a solution without a problem. There is no problem in keeping things as they are. IF there is a tropical disturbance that develops out of the pre-defined season, then the NHC can simply initiate daily outlooks for the disturbance. These can be issued as often as is deemed necessary. Advisories would be issued as they normally would be for an "in-season" storm. No one is left un-warned.
I see it a bit differently, only in terms of communicating risk - not the science part. When the "official season" begins on June 1, and systems frequently develop earlier (8 out of the last 20 years) it creates the impression ((rightly or wrongly) that the early system is unexpected, rare, or indicative of some unusual weather pattern, climate change trend, or forecasting uncertainty. I would argue it is complicated enough to communicate with the public about tropical weather risk, so eliminating any sources of confusion, skepticism, or excuse for unpreparedness is worthwhile. It helps that I don't see any downside to the 15 day adjustment. Is there a downside?
Why not start the season in March or April? We've had subtropical storms prior to May 15. Again, if there is ANY kind of a tropical threat identified in the tropics prior to June 1st, those threats will be covered by outlooks and advisories.
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