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Re: Expert forecasts for 2023 North Atlantic Hurricane Season: CSU= 18/9/4

#201 Postby SFLcane » Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:14 am

cycloneye wrote:
ABSTRACT
Information obtained through July indicates that the 2023 Atlantic hurricane
season will have activity above the 1991–2020 average. We estimate that 2023 will have
a total of 18 named storms (average is 14.4), 90 named storm days (average is 69.4), 9
hurricanes (average is 7.2), 35 hurricane days (average is 27.0), 4 major (Category 3-4-5)
hurricanes (average is 3.2) and 9 major hurricane days (average is 7.4). These numbers
include the five storms that have formed already this year (January subtropical storm,
Arlene, Bret, Cindy and Don). The probability of U.S. major hurricane landfall is
estimated to be above the long-period average. We predict Atlantic basin Accumulated
Cyclone Energy (ACE) and Net Tropical Cyclone (NTC) activity in 2023 to be
approximately 130 percent of their 1991–2020 average. We are forecasting the same
seasonal numbers with our August forecast that we predicted in early July.
This forecast is based on two early August statistical models that were developed
using ~40 years of past data. Analog predictors are also utilized. We are also including
statistical/dynamical models based on ~25–40 years of past data from the European
Centre for Medium Range Weather Forecasts, the UK Met Office, the Japan
Meteorological Agency and the Centro Euro-Mediterraneo sui Cambiamenti Climatici
model. The statistical/dynamical models unanimously agrees that the 2023 Atlantic
hurricane season should be hyperactive, while statistical model guidance is calling for
an above-average remainder of the Atlantic hurricane season. We stress that there is
considerable uncertainty with this season’s outlook given the large spread in model
guidance, as well as uncertainty with exactly how El Niño will interact with the
extremely warm Atlantic.
The tropical Pacific is currently characterized by El Niño conditions. The
intensity of the El Niño for the remainder of the hurricane season remains unclear,
although a moderate to strong event seems relatively likely. El Niño typically reduces
Atlantic hurricane activity through increases in vertical wind shear.
Sea surface temperatures across most of the tropical and subtropical Atlantic
remain at record levels, so despite the potential for a moderate/strong El Niño, the
impacts on tropical Atlantic/Caribbean vertical wind shear are likely to not be as strong
as is typically experienced given the extremely warm Atlantic.


The average of all their schemes is 184 ACE :eek:
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Re: Expert forecasts for 2023 North Atlantic Hurricane Season: CSU= 18/9/4

#202 Postby SFLcane » Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:27 am

From Phils 8/3 Aug outlook

Sea level pressure anomalies across the MDR (10-20°N, 85-20°W) in July 2023 were generally below normal (Figure 31). When July sea level pressure anomalies are low, typically more active Atlantic hurricane seasons are experienced. Lower pressure is often associated with increased instability, increased mid-level moisture and decreased vertical wind shear. below-normal sea level pressure anomalies across the tropical Atlantic are also atypical for El Niño seasons. Normally in El Niño events, there is anomalous subsidence and associated high pressure over the tropical Atlantic associated with the eastwardshifted Walker Circulation (Figure 32). Figure 33 shows the July correlation between the Nino 3.4 index and Atlantic sea level pressures, highlighting the typical high pressure observed in the tropical Atlantic associated with El Niño events. We hypothesize that the extremely warm tropical Atlantic is likely leading to the below-average sea level pressures observed in the MDR.
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Re: Expert forecasts for 2023 North Atlantic Hurricane Season: CSU= 18/9/4

#203 Postby SFLcane » Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:34 am

Woah ace west of 60w ---82 :crazyeyes:
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Re: Expert forecasts for 2023 North Atlantic Hurricane Season: CSU= 18/9/4

#204 Postby cycloneye » Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:59 am

CSU also released for the next 2 weeks.

 https://twitter.com/philklotzbach/status/1687127117535031296


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Re: Expert forecasts for 2023 North Atlantic Hurricane Season: CSU= 18/9/4

#205 Postby NDG » Thu Aug 03, 2023 11:00 am

Hopefully those out there here and on Twitter who I don't want to mention who keep saying that the Atlantic resembles a state of El Nino, will take Dr Phil's latest forecast, which is usually fairly conservative, into consideration.
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Re: Expert forecasts for 2023 North Atlantic Hurricane Season: CSU= 18/9/4 / Next 2 weeks will be average

#206 Postby cycloneye » Thu Aug 03, 2023 12:01 pm

Analog years from the August 3 CSU forecast:

1951
1969
1987
2004
2005
2006
2012

As discussed in July, we note that there are no great analogs for the current and
projected situation of a moderate to strong El Niño combined with a record warm
Atlantic. Most other years with a very warm Atlantic either had neutral ENSO or La Niña
conditions. The analogs that we selected were generally characterized by El Niño
conditions and a relatively warm Atlantic for the peak of the Atlantic hurricane season
(August–October). While 2005 was an ENSO neutral year, we included it is an analog
since the Atlantic was very warm that year. The 2012 Atlantic hurricane season did not
quite reach the El Niño threshold but did have a very warm Atlantic and a strongly
negative Pacific decadal oscillation, similar to what we have this year. We anticipate that
the 2023 hurricane season will have activity slightly above the average of our seven
analog years. There is a large spread in Atlantic hurricane activity in the seven analog
years that we selected, highlighting the large uncertainty in the potential outcomes for the
2023 season
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Re: Expert forecasts for 2023 North Atlantic Hurricane Season: CSU= 18/9/4

#207 Postby Cpv17 » Thu Aug 03, 2023 12:48 pm

SFLcane wrote:Woah ace west of 60w ---82 :crazyeyes:


What were some total ACE numbers from previous busy seasons west of there? I’m only asking cuz that doesn’t really sound like that much to me.
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Re: Expert forecasts for 2023 North Atlantic Hurricane Season: CSU= 18/9/4

#208 Postby Category5Kaiju » Thu Aug 03, 2023 2:30 pm

NDG wrote:Hopefully those out there here and on Twitter who I don't want to mention who keep saying that the Atlantic resembles a state of El Nino, will take Dr Phil's latest forecast, which is usually fairly conservative, into consideration.


I’m starting to already see it on social media, but it really saddens and disappoints me that some people who adamantly say the El Niño will win and shut down the Atlantic are calling Dr Klotzbach negative things and insulting him. I mean, come on. That’s just not cool.
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Re: Expert forecasts for 2023 North Atlantic Hurricane Season: NOAA will be up on August 10 at 11 AM EDT

#209 Postby cycloneye » Fri Aug 04, 2023 12:18 pm

For those who were asking when NOAA will release their August outlook, it will be on the 10th at 11 AM EDT. On the May outlook they had between 12-17 named storms.
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Re: Expert forecasts for 2023 North Atlantic Hurricane Season: NOAA will be up on August 10 at 11 AM EDT

#210 Postby cycloneye » Tue Aug 08, 2023 12:53 pm

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Re: Expert forecasts for 2023 North Atlantic Hurricane Season: TSR Aug= 18/8/3 / NOAA will be up on August 10 at 11 AM E

#211 Postby cycloneye » Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:16 pm

TSR is up with 18/8/3.

https://www.tropicalstormrisk.com/docs/ ... st2023.pdf

Summary: The TSR (Tropical Storm Risk) August forecast update for North Atlantic hurricane activity
in 2023 raises its forecast and now anticipates a season with activity around 10% above the 1991-2020
climate norm. Although significant uncertainties remain, we consider that the more likely scenario is for
tropical North Atlantic and Caribbean Sea waters to be warmer than normal by August-September 2023,
and for moderate El Niño conditions to persist through August-September 2023 and into the autumn.
These two factors would normally be expected to have opposing influences on the Atlantic hurricane
season, however we anticipate the trade winds will be near neutral or slightly favourable for increased
hurricane activity which is unusual during an El Niño event.
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Re: Expert forecasts for 2023 North Atlantic Hurricane Season: NOAA will be up on August 10 at 11 AM EDT

#212 Postby SFLcane » Tue Aug 08, 2023 7:24 pm

Highly encourage you to listen in tomorrow morning to Phil k.

 https://twitter.com/alexgarcia_wx/status/1688550565897191425


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Re: Expert forecasts for 2023 North Atlantic Hurricane Season

#213 Postby SFLcane » Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:14 am

El Nino conditions are currently being observed and there is a greater than 95% chance that El Nino will continue through the Northern Hemisphere winter, according to the latest ENSO discussion from the Climate Prediction Center. El Nino usually results in atmospheric conditions that help to lessen tropical activity during the Atlantic hurricane season. So far, those limiting conditions have been slow to develop and climate scientists are forecasting that the associated impacts that tend to limit tropical cyclone activity may not be in place for much of the remaining hurricane season.


 https://twitter.com/NOAA/status/1689655135633616897


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Re: Expert forecasts for 2023 North Atlantic Hurricane Season

#214 Postby cycloneye » Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:17 am

SFLcane wrote:El Nino conditions are currently being observed and there is a greater than 95% chance that El Nino will continue through the Northern Hemisphere winter, according to the latest ENSO discussion from the Climate Prediction Center. El Nino usually results in atmospheric conditions that help to lessen tropical activity during the Atlantic hurricane season. So far, those limiting conditions have been slow to develop and climate scientists are forecasting that the associated impacts that tend to limit tropical cyclone activity may not be in place for much of the remaining hurricane season.


https://twitter.com/NOAA/status/1689655135633616897?s=20


Wow, a big increase. :eek: Here is the whole update:
https://www.noaa.gov/news-release/noaa- ... ove-normal
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Re: Expert forecasts for 2023 North Atlantic Hurricane Season: NOAA=14-21

#215 Postby jasons2k » Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:37 am

Yep hitting the news:

“NOAA's 2023 Atlantic hurricane season prediction increased to above normal despite El Nino.”

https://www.foxweather.com/weather-news ... ook-update
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Re: Expert forecasts for 2023 North Atlantic Hurricane Season: NOAA=14-21

#216 Postby psyclone » Thu Aug 10, 2023 12:10 pm

I'm surprised there's such bullishness with Nino. I've got to see it to believe it...especially after they abysmal seasonal forecasts last year. But even if Nino does squash the Atlantic season, there should be an offsetting active weather prize for the deep south in the form an a Nino enhanced subtropical jet yielding an active winter severe season. One way or another that energy is going to be spent.
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Re: Expert forecasts for 2023 North Atlantic Hurricane Season

#217 Postby LarryWx » Thu Aug 10, 2023 12:49 pm

SFLcane wrote:El Nino conditions are currently being observed and there is a greater than 95% chance that El Nino will continue through the Northern Hemisphere winter, according to the latest ENSO discussion from the Climate Prediction Center. El Nino usually results in atmospheric conditions that help to lessen tropical activity during the Atlantic hurricane season. So far, those limiting conditions have been slow to develop and climate scientists are forecasting that the associated impacts that tend to limit tropical cyclone activity may not be in place for much of the remaining hurricane season.


https://twitter.com/NOAA/status/1689655135633616897?s=20


They've moved from centering on near normal to a near to above normal forecast. The NS/H ranges of 7/5 are even wider vs the prior forecast making it hard to be wrong. The MH range of 3 was unchanged but that was already quite a wide range for MH.
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Re: Expert forecasts for 2023 North Atlantic Hurricane Season

#218 Postby SFLcane » Thu Aug 10, 2023 1:32 pm

LarryWx wrote:
SFLcane wrote:El Nino conditions are currently being observed and there is a greater than 95% chance that El Nino will continue through the Northern Hemisphere winter, according to the latest ENSO discussion from the Climate Prediction Center. El Nino usually results in atmospheric conditions that help to lessen tropical activity during the Atlantic hurricane season. So far, those limiting conditions have been slow to develop and climate scientists are forecasting that the associated impacts that tend to limit tropical cyclone activity may not be in place for much of the remaining hurricane season.


https://twitter.com/NOAA/status/1689655135633616897?s=20


They've moved from centering on near normal to a near to above normal forecast. The NS/H ranges of 7/5 are even wider vs the prior forecast making it hard to be wrong. The MH range of 3 was unchanged but that was already quite a wide range for MH.


Just short of hyper active now.

 https://twitter.com/wx_tiger/status/1689663406972817410


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Re: Expert forecasts for 2023 North Atlantic Hurricane Season

#219 Postby weeniepatrol » Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:54 pm

LarryWx wrote:
SFLcane wrote:El Nino conditions are currently being observed and there is a greater than 95% chance that El Nino will continue through the Northern Hemisphere winter, according to the latest ENSO discussion from the Climate Prediction Center. El Nino usually results in atmospheric conditions that help to lessen tropical activity during the Atlantic hurricane season. So far, those limiting conditions have been slow to develop and climate scientists are forecasting that the associated impacts that tend to limit tropical cyclone activity may not be in place for much of the remaining hurricane season.


https://twitter.com/NOAA/status/1689655135633616897?s=20


They've moved from centering on near normal to a near to above normal forecast. The NS/H ranges of 7/5 are even wider vs the prior forecast making it hard to be wrong. The MH range of 3 was unchanged but that was already quite a wide range for MH.


You're probably already aware, but they use the 70% confidence interval for their ranges.

In other words, actual activity has a 70% chance of falling into the range of each category
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Re: Expert forecasts for 2023 North Atlantic Hurricane Season

#220 Postby wxman57 » Fri Aug 11, 2023 8:52 am

NOAA had to increase their numbers. We're already at 5/1/0. Normally, we may see 1-2 named storms prior to early August. In the very active 2004 season, the first name storm held off until August 1st. The forecast from here on out is just a little above normal. However, given how the tropics look now, that may not be a safe bet. El Nino may be having more of an effect than is realized.
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