Expert forecasts for 2023 North Atlantic Hurricane Season

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Re: Expert forecasts for 2023 North Atlantic Hurricane Season

#241 Postby cycloneye » Tue Nov 28, 2023 11:41 am

Verification of the CSU forecasts.

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https://tropical.colostate.edu/Forecast/2023-11.pdf
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Re: Expert forecasts for 2023 North Atlantic Hurricane Season

#242 Postby Teban54 » Tue Nov 28, 2023 11:55 am


Back when each of the CSU forecasts was up, people were calling them too aggressive and were certain that the season would end up below average. It's incredible how well they verified when it comes to almost every single metric.
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Re: Expert forecasts for 2023 North Atlantic Hurricane Season: CSU Verification of 2023 forecasts is up

#243 Postby cycloneye » Tue Nov 28, 2023 12:40 pm

NOAA has a summary.

The Atlantic basin saw 20 named storms in 2023, which ranks fourth for the most-named storms in a year since 1950


https://www.noaa.gov/news-release/2023- ... ms-in-year

 https://twitter.com/NOAA/status/1729532521925190021


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Re: Expert forecasts for 2023 North Atlantic Hurricane Season

#244 Postby al78 » Tue Nov 28, 2023 6:16 pm

Teban54 wrote:

Back when each of the CSU forecasts was up, people were calling them too aggressive and were certain that the season would end up below average. It's incredible how well they verified when it comes to almost every single metric.


I thought 160 ACE was too aggressive at the time and I was correct. They overpredicted in July and August although they were still good forecasts. Much better than the UK Met Office which went for a ridiculous >200 ACE.
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Re: Expert forecasts for 2023 North Atlantic Hurricane Season: CSU & NOAA verification of 2023 forecasts are up

#245 Postby Category5Kaiju » Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:57 pm

To sum everything up:

Looks like a super warm Atlantic does indeed win over El Nino, at least activity-wise.
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Re: Expert forecasts for 2023 North Atlantic Hurricane Season

#246 Postby Teban54 » Wed Nov 29, 2023 12:38 pm

al78 wrote:
Teban54 wrote:

Back when each of the CSU forecasts was up, people were calling them too aggressive and were certain that the season would end up below average. It's incredible how well they verified when it comes to almost every single metric.


I thought 160 ACE was too aggressive at the time and I was correct. They overpredicted in July and August although they were still good forecasts. Much better than the UK Met Office which went for a ridiculous >200 ACE.

Umm, I don't think 146 vs 160 ACE is that much of a difference, especially given how unpredictable ACE can be and how many random factors go into it. It probably falls within the standard deviation (not to mention it would likely have been much higher if the Bermuda high wasn't non-existent).

If the season ended with 120 ACE, then yeah we can say the forecast busted too high.
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Re: Expert forecasts for 2023 North Atlantic Hurricane Season

#247 Postby al78 » Wed Nov 29, 2023 12:41 pm

Teban54 wrote:
al78 wrote:
Teban54 wrote:Back when each of the CSU forecasts was up, people were calling them too aggressive and were certain that the season would end up below average. It's incredible how well they verified when it comes to almost every single metric.


I thought 160 ACE was too aggressive at the time and I was correct. They overpredicted in July and August although they were still good forecasts. Much better than the UK Met Office which went for a ridiculous >200 ACE.

Umm, I don't think 146 vs 160 ACE is that much of a difference, especially given how unpredictable ACE can be and how many random factors go into it. It probably falls within the standard deviation (not to mention it would likely have been much higher if the Bermuda high wasn't non-existent).

If the season ended with 120 ACE, then yeah we can say the forecast busted too high.


Hence why I added they were still good forecasts, I never said they busted.
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