2023 Cyclone Retirement (Poll Included at Top) Dora / Otis retired

[DioBrando]

At this point in the season, the only name that is probably going to be retired is Idalia. It caused >$9 billion in damage, and Floridians will forever associate the name "Idalia" with this hurricane. I doubt Franklin will be retired; it caused significantly less damage, and the bar for retirement seems to be so much higher for storms that impact Hispaniola; case in point, Gordon was not retired in 1994.

I highly doubt Franklin is getting retired as I have not heard anything about major loss of life in Haiti and DR, let alone damages. Gordon 1994 is arguably the most baffling un-retired storm imho as it caused thousands of deaths (even more than some of the most recent disastrous hurricanes like Harvey, Irma, Dorian, etc.), yet somehow it escaped retirement. I have no idea what happened there.

DR actually requested Franklin to be retired
Imagine if Franklin goes and Idalia doesn't. Weird

IT'S SO OVER FOR FRANKLIN


Quoted from the Dominican Republic report:

Replace the name Franklin with Ford please

Original:

Reemplace el nombre Franklin con Ford por favor

https://wmoomm.sharepoint.com/:w:/r/sit ... irect=true

[ljmac75]

How often does the WMO decline requests for storm names to be retired?

[DioBrando]

How often does the WMO decline requests for storm names to be retired?

I have no idea, do you think WMO would decline Franklin?

[Teban54]

How often does the WMO decline requests for storm names to be retired?

There were rumors back in 2022 that Barbados requested Elsa to be retired, but it didn't. However, we don't know whether that's true.

[DioBrando]

How often does the WMO decline requests for storm names to be retired?

There were rumors back in 2022 that Barbados requested Elsa to be retired, but it didn't. However, we don't know whether that's true.

do you think the request for franklin will be denied

[GSBHurricane]

How often does the WMO decline requests for storm names to be retired?

There were rumors back in 2022 that Barbados requested Elsa to be retired, but it didn't. However, we don't know whether that's true.

do you think the request for franklin will be denied

I think Franklin will be accepted. The damage figures alone don't tell the whole story. 425,000 homes were cut off from power there and 1.7 million from drinkable water, including 830,000 from 120 aqueducts being put out of service because of Franklin. Also, it cut off 24 whole communities in the Dominican Republic. This kind of feels like Kenna 2.0 where it only did $100 million in damage but San Blas saw 95% of its homes damaged or destroyed, 30 villages lost communication, and the entirety of San Blas' banana, tobacco, and tomato crops were destroyed.

[DioBrando]

There were rumors back in 2022 that Barbados requested Elsa to be retired, but it didn't. However, we don't know whether that's true.

do you think the request for franklin will be denied

I think Franklin will be accepted. The damage figures alone don't tell the whole story. 425,000 homes were cut off from power there and 1.7 million from drinkable water, including 830,000 from 120 aqueducts being put out of service because of Franklin. Also, it cut off 24 whole communities in the Dominican Republic. This kind of feels like Kenna 2.0 where it only did $100 million in damage but San Blas saw 95% of its homes damaged or destroyed, 30 villages lost communication, and the entirety of San Blas' banana, tobacco, and tomato crops were destroyed.

THIS IS WILD IF FRANKLIN GETS RETIRED AND IDALIA DOESN'T

[Teban54]

There were rumors back in 2022 that Barbados requested Elsa to be retired, but it didn't. However, we don't know whether that's true.

do you think the request for franklin will be denied

I think Franklin will be accepted. The damage figures alone don't tell the whole story. 425,000 homes were cut off from power there and 1.7 million from drinkable water, including 830,000 from 120 aqueducts being put out of service because of Franklin. Also, it cut off 24 whole communities in the Dominican Republic. This kind of feels like Kenna 2.0 where it only did $100 million in damage but San Blas saw 95% of its homes damaged or destroyed, 30 villages lost communication, and the entirety of San Blas' banana, tobacco, and tomato crops were destroyed.

The irony is that the exact same argument applies to Idalia. We'll see whether US requests retirement.

[DioBrando]

do you think the request for franklin will be denied

I think Franklin will be accepted. The damage figures alone don't tell the whole story. 425,000 homes were cut off from power there and 1.7 million from drinkable water, including 830,000 from 120 aqueducts being put out of service because of Franklin. Also, it cut off 24 whole communities in the Dominican Republic. This kind of feels like Kenna 2.0 where it only did $100 million in damage but San Blas saw 95% of its homes damaged or destroyed, 30 villages lost communication, and the entirety of San Blas' banana, tobacco, and tomato crops were destroyed.

The irony is that the exact same argument applies to Idalia. We'll see whether US requests retirement.

How, please explain? Idalia hit the middle of nowhere

[Landy]

IT'S SO OVER FOR FRANKLIN


Quoted from the Dominican Republic report:

Replace the name Franklin with Ford please

Original:

Reemplace el nombre Franklin con Ford por favor

https://wmoomm.sharepoint.com/:w:/r/sit ... irect=true

The WMO handles what the replacement names for retired storms are, not any one country's met service. Combined with this, the poor grammar of this statement compared to the rest of the document, the fact that DR's long-form document makes no mention of retirement, and the fact that the document is somehow publicly editable, I'd disregard this. How did you come across this?

[DioBrando]

IT'S SO OVER FOR FRANKLIN


Quoted from the Dominican Republic report:

Replace the name Franklin with Ford please

Original:

Reemplace el nombre Franklin con Ford por favor

https://wmoomm.sharepoint.com/:w:/r/sit ... irect=true

The WMO handles what the replacement names for retired storms are, not any one country's met service. Combined with this, the poor grammar of this statement compared to the rest of the document, the fact that DR's long-form document makes no mention of retirement, and the fact that the document is somehow publicly editable, I'd disregard this. How did you come across this?

From this link found from the WMO RA IV committee
https://wmoomm.sharepoint.com/:w:/r/sit ... irect=true

[GSBHurricane]

IT'S SO OVER FOR FRANKLIN


Quoted from the Dominican Republic report:


Original:


https://wmoomm.sharepoint.com/:w:/r/sit ... irect=true

The WMO handles what the replacement names for retired storms are, not any one country's met service. Combined with this, the poor grammar of this statement compared to the rest of the document, the fact that DR's long-form document makes no mention of retirement, and the fact that the document is somehow publicly editable, I'd disregard this. How did you come across this?

From this link found from the WMO RA IV committee
https://wmoomm.sharepoint.com/:w:/r/sit ... irect=true

Actually it does kind of make sense for it to be fake considering the poor grammar and the fact that anyone can edit it.

[ljmac75]

Please don't tell me someone is out there vandalizing the WMO Hurricane Committee meeting documents. I hope they disable editing the documents, or at least have some revision history to check.

[GSBHurricane]

Please don't tell me someone is out there vandalizing the WMO Hurricane Committee meeting documents. I hope they disable editing the documents, or at least have some revision history to check.

Who really knows, to be honest?

[ljmac75]

Please don't tell me someone is out there vandalizing the WMO Hurricane Committee meeting documents. I hope they disable editing the documents, or at least have some revision history to check.

Who really knows, to be honest?

A bunch of files in the country reports got edited recently by a "guest contributor" and they all include requests to replace Franklin, Lee and Phillipe with Ford, Laquavious, and a derogatory term for Indians starting with the letter P. Aside from Franklin, I don't remember those being requested before by any of the countries.

[GSBHurricane]

Please don't tell me someone is out there vandalizing the WMO Hurricane Committee meeting documents. I hope they disable editing the documents, or at least have some revision history to check.

Who really knows, to be honest?

A bunch of files in the country reports got edited recently by a "guest contributor" and they all include requests to replace Franklin, Lee and Phillipe with Ford, Laquavious, and a derogatory term for Indians starting with the letter P. Aside from Franklin, I don't remember those being requested before by any of the countries.

That's certainly not a good sign.

[DorkyMcDorkface]

Please don't tell me someone is out there vandalizing the WMO Hurricane Committee meeting documents. I hope they disable editing the documents, or at least have some revision history to check.

Who really knows, to be honest?

A bunch of files in the country reports got edited recently by a "guest contributor" and they all include requests to replace Franklin, Lee and Phillipe with Ford, Laquavious, and a derogatory term for Indians starting with the letter P. Aside from Franklin, I don't remember those being requested before by any of the countries.

For someone to actually take the time to falsify information like this (with a shot of thinly veiled racism at that) is moronic. Hope they find the culprit.

[DioBrando]

Please don't tell me someone is out there vandalizing the WMO Hurricane Committee meeting documents. I hope they disable editing the documents, or at least have some revision history to check.

Who really knows, to be honest?

A bunch of files in the country reports got edited recently by a "guest contributor" and they all include requests to replace Franklin, Lee and Phillipe with Ford, Laquavious, and a derogatory term for Indians starting with the letter P. Aside from Franklin, I don't remember those being requested before by any of the countries.

Which particular country report did you find this from?

[DioBrando]

Who really knows, to be honest?

A bunch of files in the country reports got edited recently by a "guest contributor" and they all include requests to replace Franklin, Lee and Phillipe with Ford, Laquavious, and a derogatory term for Indians starting with the letter P. Aside from Franklin, I don't remember those being requested before by any of the countries.

For someone to actually take the time to falsify information like this (with a shot of thinly veiled racism at that) is moronic. Hope they find the culprit.

Which country report did you find this information from? The documents all now seem to have been reverted back to the originals.
Thank you to whoever did this, you're a star.

[ljmac75]

A bunch of files in the country reports got edited recently by a "guest contributor" and they all include requests to replace Franklin, Lee and Phillipe with Ford, Laquavious, and a derogatory term for Indians starting with the letter P. Aside from Franklin, I don't remember those being requested before by any of the countries.

For someone to actually take the time to falsify information like this (with a shot of thinly veiled racism at that) is moronic. Hope they find the culprit.

Which country report did you find this information from? The documents all now seem to have been reverted back to the originals.
Thank you to whoever did this, you're a star.

The files in the Canada and BCT folders were where I noticed it. Like you say, they're gone now.