Tropical Wave off the African Coast (Is Invest 98L)

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Tropical Wave off the African Coast (Is Invest 98L)

#1 Postby cycloneye » Sat Sep 09, 2023 7:01 pm

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Near the West African Coastline:
A tropical wave currently located near the West African coastline is
forecast to emerge into the eastern Tropical Atlantic over the next
day or so. Thereafter, environmental conditions appear generally
conducive for some gradual development of this system as it moves
westward to west-northwestward at 15 to 20 mph over the eastern
Tropical Atlantic.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...low...30 percent.


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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa that may develop

#2 Postby WalterWhite » Sat Sep 09, 2023 7:02 pm

These are 12Z runs, but the point still stands.

GFS operational (the 1002 mb low):
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ECMWF operational (the 1006 mb low):
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CMC operational (the 1005 mb low):
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ICON operational (the 997 mb low):
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GEFS (GFS) ensembles:
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EPS (ECMWF) ensembles:
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GEPS (CMC) ensembles:
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Re: Tropical Wave emerging from West Africa

#3 Postby CFLHurricane » Sat Sep 09, 2023 8:58 pm

And with this forecast, I’m feeling pretty upbeat about CV season being over for Florida and am enjoying the break before October surprise.
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Re: Tropical Wave emerging from West Africa

#4 Postby cycloneye » Sat Sep 09, 2023 9:10 pm

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Re: Tropical Wave emerging from West Africa

#5 Postby cycloneye » Sun Sep 10, 2023 3:53 am

The CV longtracker that would send the North Atlantic ACE to the roof.

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Re: Tropical Wave emerging from West Africa

#6 Postby cycloneye » Sun Sep 10, 2023 7:16 am

Eastern and Central Tropical Atlantic:
A tropical wave located near the west coast of Africa is producing
disorganized showers and thunderstorms. Environmental conditions
appear conducive for some gradual development of this system during
the latter part of this week as it moves westward to west-
northwestward at 15 to 20 mph over the central tropical Atlantic.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...low...30 percent.
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Re: Tropical Wave emerging from West Africa

#7 Postby Blown Away » Sun Sep 10, 2023 7:23 am

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Re: Tropical Wave emerging from West Africa

#8 Postby jlauderdal » Sun Sep 10, 2023 7:30 am

cycloneye wrote:The CV longtracker that would send the North Atlantic ACE to the roof.

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Anxiety through the roof too.
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Re: Tropical Wave emerging from West Africa

#9 Postby mantis83 » Sun Sep 10, 2023 7:35 am


bounces off the florida force field just in time to recurve out to sea :D
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Re: Tropical Wave emerging from West Africa

#10 Postby cycloneye » Sun Sep 10, 2023 7:57 am

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Re: Tropical Wave emerging from West Africa

#11 Postby jlauderdal » Sun Sep 10, 2023 8:11 am

mantis83 wrote:

bounces off the florida force field just in time to recurve out to sea :D
I would prefer to have it hitting florida at that range.
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Re: Tropical Wave emerging from West Africa

#12 Postby WalterWhite » Sun Sep 10, 2023 9:37 am


That must be the most anxiety-inducing model run I have ever seen in my life. You would have people anticipating for a redux of Dorian, Irma, Isabel, and Sandy.
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Re: Tropical Wave emerging from West Africa

#13 Postby Category5Kaiju » Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:21 am

Yeah, unlike Lee, there are some subtle signs that this wave could develop and travel under a building Azores High. Danny Morris specifically had a pretty long Twitter thread on that recently. I'd even argue that if some indications were to actually pan out, this could be a bit more concerning than Lee.
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Re: Tropical Wave off the African Coast

#14 Postby Landy » Sun Sep 10, 2023 12:04 pm

GFS solutions today have favored a solution where this disturbance passes north of the Antilles around where Lee will trek these next few days. Seems like ridge builds in which brings it close to the east coast, but this is largely dependent on what Margot does. If Margot stays trapped in the lower subtropics it could leave an opening for the disturbance to go OTS much earlier.
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Re: Tropical Wave off the African Coast

#15 Postby Iceresistance » Sun Sep 10, 2023 12:17 pm

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Re: Tropical Wave off the African Coast

#16 Postby Landy » Sun Sep 10, 2023 12:19 pm

Eastern and Central Tropical Atlantic:
A tropical wave located over the far eastern tropical Atlantic just
west of the coast of Africa is producing disorganized cloudiness
and showers. Environmental conditions appear conducive for some
gradual development of this system during the latter part of this
week as it moves westward to west-northwestward at 15 to 20 mph
over the central tropical Atlantic.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...medium...40 percent.

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Re: Tropical Wave off the African Coast

#17 Postby mantis83 » Sun Sep 10, 2023 1:13 pm

latest 12z gfs is a bit concerning if that upper air pattern it forecasts come to fruition with a building ridge and cutoff low over the southeast....way out there tho
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Re: Tropical Wave off the African Coast

#18 Postby SconnieCane » Sun Sep 10, 2023 2:00 pm

mantis83 wrote:latest 12z gfs is a bit concerning if that upper air pattern it forecasts come to fruition with a building ridge and cutoff low over the southeast....way out there tho


Leave it to the GFS to take the Euro's 12Z weenie run with Lee from yesterday and say "hold my beer." :lol:
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Re: Tropical Wave off the African Coast

#19 Postby Blown Away » Sun Sep 10, 2023 2:23 pm

SconnieCane wrote:
mantis83 wrote:latest 12z gfs is a bit concerning if that upper air pattern it forecasts come to fruition with a building ridge and cutoff low over the southeast....way out there tho


Leave it to the GFS to take the Euro's 12Z weenie run with Lee from yesterday and say "hold my beer." :lol:


Clearly the NHC discounting the GFS and going with Euro based on their 7 day cone recurve into C Atlantic.
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Re: Tropical Wave off the African Coast

#20 Postby zzzh » Sun Sep 10, 2023 2:28 pm

GFS is the outlier here (again and again), so I wouldn't trust the GFS.
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