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Re: Expert forecasts for the 2024 North Atlantic Hurricane Season

#41 Postby Ptarmigan » Wed Feb 21, 2024 10:29 pm

DioBrando wrote:
Ptarmigan wrote:Joe Bastardi's forecast is quite bullish. That puts it on par with 2005 and 2010 and presumably 1933.

sauce please?


What sauce do you want? Tomato or alfredo?

Anyways, 1933 did not have satellites, unlike 2005 and 2010.

The record-breaking 1933 Atlantic Hurricane Season
https://tropical.colostate.edu/pub/Klot ... _BAMS.html
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Re: Expert forecasts for the 2024 North Atlantic Hurricane Season

#42 Postby tolakram » Thu Feb 22, 2024 1:04 pm

Stay on topic please, need to keep this related to expert forecasts and less sidebar discussions. Thanks.
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Re: Expert forecasts for the 2024 North Atlantic Hurricane Season

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Re: Expert forecasts for the 2024 North Atlantic Hurricane Season

#44 Postby crownweather » Wed Mar 13, 2024 3:32 pm

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Re: Expert forecasts for the 2024 North Atlantic Hurricane Season

#45 Postby FireRat » Thu Mar 14, 2024 12:34 am

crownweather wrote:

Actual full forecast can be found at

https://crownweather.com/index.php/discussions/2024-atlantic-caribbean-gulf-of-mexico-hurricane-season-forecast/


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25/12/6 :double:

Welp there you have it folks! 2024 is likely going to be gangbusters!
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Re: Expert forecasts for the 2024 North Atlantic Hurricane Season

#46 Postby Blown Away » Thu Mar 14, 2024 6:18 am



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Re: Expert Forecasts for the 2024 North Atlantic Hurricane Season

#47 Postby cycloneye » Thu Mar 21, 2024 10:40 am

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Re: Expert Forecasts for the 2024 North Atlantic Hurricane Season

#48 Postby cycloneye » Fri Mar 22, 2024 10:06 am

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Re: Expert Forecasts for the 2024 North Atlantic Hurricane Season

#49 Postby Teban54 » Fri Mar 22, 2024 12:38 pm


Since WeatherTiger's real-time ACE forecast tool was mentioned, I decided to revisit their ACE forecasts for 2022 and 2023:

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The final ACE in both seasons are 95.1 and 145.6, respectively.

While this validation doesn't change the active outlook of the 2024 season, it nevertheless highlights the unpredictability of pre-season ACE forecasts even in May, much less in March. Although, to their credit, both years were tricky to forecast. 2022 had all indicators favoring an active season until the wavebreaking episodes in August. While 2023 already had a strong +AMO signature in May when these real-time ACE forecasts started, IIRC further warming continued in the subsequent months, and the unpredictability of El Nino's impacts had always been uncertain. Nevertheless, the 2023 ACE forecast still became pretty accurate by late July.
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Re: Expert Forecasts for the 2024 North Atlantic Hurricane Season: AccuWeather is up: Between 20-25 named storms

#50 Postby cycloneye » Wed Mar 27, 2024 7:21 am

The folks of AccuWeather use bombastic words to describe the 2024 season. Their forecast is up and is hot to not post their words. :D

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https://www.accuweather.com/en/hurrican ... %20impacts.
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Re: Expert Forecasts for the 2024 North Atlantic Hurricane Season: AccuWeather is up: Between 20-25 named storms

#51 Postby Steve » Wed Mar 27, 2024 8:30 am

cycloneye wrote:The folks of AccuWeather use bombastic words to describe the 2024 season. Their forecast is up and is hot to not post their words. :D

https://i.imgur.com/PVkY6IV.jpeg

https://www.accuweather.com/en/hurrican ... %20impacts.


LMAO. You could see them on their channel all dressed up but not really in sharp clothing telling us this season will be INSANE!!!!! That company...
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Re: Expert Forecasts for the 2024 North Atlantic Hurricane Season: AccuWeather is up: Between 20-25 named storms

#52 Postby cycloneye » Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:08 am

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Re: Expert Forecasts for the 2024 North Atlantic Hurricane Season: AccuWeather is up: Between 20-25 named storms

#53 Postby mixedDanilo.E » Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:49 am

Crazy to see so much support for 20+ in March (soon to be April) already, honestly won't be shocked to see CSU come out with 20+ next week as well.
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Re: Expert Forecasts for the 2024 North Atlantic Hurricane Season: AccuWeather is up: Between 20-25 named storms

#54 Postby SFLcane » Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:39 pm

cycloneye wrote:The folks of AccuWeather use bombastic words to describe the 2024 season. Their forecast is up and is hot to not post their words. :D

https://i.imgur.com/PVkY6IV.jpeg

https://www.accuweather.com/en/hurrican ... %20impacts.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFhRZiFAUY4
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2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models)

#55 Postby cycloneye » Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:56 pm

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Re: Expert Forecasts for the 2024 North Atlantic Hurricane Season

#56 Postby wxman57 » Fri Mar 29, 2024 12:17 pm

Just returned from the National Hurricane Conference last evening. Had a chance to talk to Phil Klotzbach when he stopped by our booth in the exhibit hall. Can't tell you his numbers, as he'll be releasing them at the National Tropical Weather Conference next week. However, I can say that he sees the same things that everyone else does. My main question to him was about the NAO this season. For the past several years, the NAO has been mostly negative during the season, resulting in a weaker Bermuda High and early recurving of storms. He does think that the NAO will be more positive this year, but there is a lot of uncertainty in any long-range NAO forecast. A positive NAO would open up the Caribbean for long-tracked hurricanes. It's pretty clear that all seasonal parameters suggest a much above normal season, but I remember discussing the 2013 season with him prior to the start and everything looked favorable then, too. Turned out to be a dud season. Let's hope this season is a dud.
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Re: Expert Forecasts for the 2024 North Atlantic Hurricane Season

#57 Postby SFLcane » Fri Mar 29, 2024 1:10 pm

wxman57 wrote:Just returned from the National Hurricane Conference last evening. Had a chance to talk to Phil Klotzbach when he stopped by our booth in the exhibit hall. Can't tell you his numbers, as he'll be releasing them at the National Tropical Weather Conference next week. However, I can say that he sees the same things that everyone else does. My main question to him was about the NAO this season. For the past several years, the NAO has been mostly negative during the season, resulting in a weaker Bermuda High and early recurving of storms. He does think that the NAO will be more positive this year, but there is a lot of uncertainty in any long-range NAO forecast. A positive NAO would open up the Caribbean for long-tracked hurricanes. It's pretty clear that all seasonal parameters suggest a much above normal season, but I remember discussing the 2013 season with him prior to the start and everything looked favorable then, too. Turned out to be a dud season. Let's hope this season is a dud.


Hi 57, unless it was a typo someone is confusing the amo with the nao which i am sure you know both. Amo is the Atlantic warmth and Nao is the strength of the high.The AMO hasn't been negative though It's been very positive. NAO has been negative especially last year. But yeah that's not really predictable at this range.
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Re: Expert Forecasts for the 2024 North Atlantic Hurricane Season

#58 Postby wxman57 » Sat Mar 30, 2024 5:26 am

SFLcane wrote:
wxman57 wrote:Just returned from the National Hurricane Conference last evening. Had a chance to talk to Phil Klotzbach when he stopped by our booth in the exhibit hall. Can't tell you his numbers, as he'll be releasing them at the National Tropical Weather Conference next week. However, I can say that he sees the same things that everyone else does. My main question to him was about the NAO this season. For the past several years, the NAO has been mostly negative during the season, resulting in a weaker Bermuda High and early recurving of storms. He does think that the NAO will be more positive this year, but there is a lot of uncertainty in any long-range NAO forecast. A positive NAO would open up the Caribbean for long-tracked hurricanes. It's pretty clear that all seasonal parameters suggest a much above normal season, but I remember discussing the 2013 season with him prior to the start and everything looked favorable then, too. Turned out to be a dud season. Let's hope this season is a dud.


Hi 57, unless it was a typo someone is confusing the amo with the nao which i am sure you know both. Amo is the Atlantic warmth and Nao is the strength of the high.The AMO hasn't been negative though It's been very positive. NAO has been negative especially last year. But yeah that's not really predictable at this range.


Yeah, the NAO - North Atlantic Oscillation. I fixed it.
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Re: Expert Forecasts for the 2024 North Atlantic Hurricane Season: CSU will be up next thursday at 10 AM EDT

#59 Postby SFLcane » Sat Mar 30, 2024 6:53 am

The reality of what's in store in a few months will be coming to realization this Thursday. Lets hope for a recurve pattern.
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Re: Expert Forecasts for the 2024 North Atlantic Hurricane Season: CSU will be up next thursday at 10 AM EDT

#60 Postby cycloneye » Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:24 pm

The expectations are building as the 4th approaches. The questions are:

1- How high CSU go in tems of the numbers per category?

2- How high will the ACE be?

3-What analogs Phil will use for the 2024 season?
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