When will the next crossover storm happen?

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When will the next crossover storm happen?

#1 Postby DioBrando » Sun Mar 24, 2024 5:29 pm

Answer for:

1) Atlantic --> EPAC
2) EPAC (proper) --> WPAC
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Re: When will the next crossover storm happen?

#2 Postby DioBrando » Sun Mar 24, 2024 5:44 pm

Assessment:

2026 could potentially see names that align with the middle part of the season, based on its alphabetical list, but without the explicit reference to names that have historically made the crossover, it’s about the timing and sequence.

2027 presents names in the list that, by mid-season (July or August), could potentially be in play for naming, fitting the pattern of when transpacific cyclones tend to form. Given the slight preference for spacing out significant events and considering the neutral approach to historical crossovers, 2027 might edge out as more likely for the next transpacific cyclone, based purely on the progression of names by mid-season and the intervals observed historically.


Conclusion:

While both years have potential, 2027 slightly edges out as more likely for the occurrence of a transpacific cyclone that could be named from the list's mid-range.


Key Considerations:

Seasonal Timing: Transpacific cyclones typically form in July or August, suggesting names that appear mid-season are more probable candidates, based on the alphabetical progression of named storms each year.

Historical Patterns: While not prioritizing names that have historically crossed over, we acknowledge that certain conditions favorable for crossover events tend to recur, potentially influencing the likelihood of certain names being candidates based on their timing in the season.

Early names are less likely due to their usage before the July and August window.

Very late names are less likely due to the reduced potential for September-formed storms to make significant transitions.


Potential Crossover Candidates for 2027:
Given the preference for July and August formations that have the capability for transpacific crossings:

This would include names in the vicinity of "Felicia," "Guillermo," "Hilda," and leading up to "Jimena", as these fall within a similar period of the season when conditions are favorable for the development and transition of cyclones from EPAC to WPAC.

Conclusion:
The refined focus for 2027, considering storms that form in July and August have the best potential for a transpacific journey, positions "Felicia" to "Jimena" as the segment of names with likely candidates for EPAC to WPAC crossover events. This selection is based on the mid-season formation period that aligns with historical patterns of cyclone behavior, the typical usage of names by this point in the cyclone season, and the aim to identify potential crossover storms within the most favorable timeframe.

To rank the candidates from most to least likely for a transpacific cyclone in 2027, considering the optimal formation period of July and August, and taking into account the historical pattern and timing of names like "Jimena," we focus on the segment of names that falls around this mid-season period. This range notably includes "Felicia," "Guillermo," "Hilda," and up to "Jimena," as primary examples provided for evaluation.

Ranking Criteria:
Historical Timing: Preference towards names historically associated with or close to the timing of "Jimena," which forms in August.
Seasonal Progression: Names that appear in the middle of the list, reflecting the progression of the cyclone season by July and August, without being too early or too late in the alphabetical sequence.
General Cyclone Behavior: General tendencies for cyclones to develop and potentially cross over during these peak months.

Ranked Candidates for 2027 Transpacific Cyclone:
Jimena: Given its historical formation in August, it naturally ranks highly for potential crossover, aligning perfectly with the peak period.
Hilda: Falling just before "Jimena" in the alphabetical list, "Hilda" is very likely, as it would potentially form close to the optimal crossover period.
Guillermo: Positioned just before "Hilda," "Guillermo" has a strong chance, considering the timing within the season, though slightly less so than "Hilda" due to its earlier position.
Felicia: While still within the favorable window, "Felicia" comes earlier in the list, suggesting it might form slightly before the peak period of July and August, making it slightly less likely than the others for a transpacific journey based on the optimal timing criteria.

Conclusion:
This ranking considers the nuances of cyclone formation timing, particularly emphasizing July and August as the critical months for transpacific cyclones. "Jimena" tops the list due to its historical August formation, closely followed by "Hilda" and "Guillermo," which are also well-positioned in the list to fall within or near this optimal period. "Felicia" remains a candidate but is considered slightly less likely due to its earlier position in the naming sequence, which could correspond to an early to mid-July formation, just preceding the peak period identified. This ranking aims to align with both the historical patterns and the inherent logic of cyclone naming and seasonal development trends.
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Re: When will the next crossover storm happen?

#3 Postby Hurricane2022 » Sun Mar 24, 2024 5:53 pm

DioBrando wrote:Assessment:

2026 could potentially see names that align with the middle part of the season, based on its alphabetical list, but without the explicit reference to names that have historically made the crossover, it’s about the timing and sequence.

2027 presents names in the list that, by mid-season (July or August), could potentially be in play for naming, fitting the pattern of when transpacific cyclones tend to form. Given the slight preference for spacing out significant events and considering the neutral approach to historical crossovers, 2027 might edge out as more likely for the next transpacific cyclone, based purely on the progression of names by mid-season and the intervals observed historically.


Conclusion:

While both years have potential, 2027 slightly edges out as more likely for the occurrence of a transpacific cyclone that could be named from the list's mid-range.


Key Considerations:

Seasonal Timing: Transpacific cyclones typically form in July or August, suggesting names that appear mid-season are more probable candidates, based on the alphabetical progression of named storms each year.

Historical Patterns: While not prioritizing names that have historically crossed over, we acknowledge that certain conditions favorable for crossover events tend to recur, potentially influencing the likelihood of certain names being candidates based on their timing in the season.

Early names are less likely due to their usage before the July and August window.

Very late names are less likely due to the reduced potential for September-formed storms to make significant transitions.


Potential Crossover Candidates for 2027:
Given the preference for July and August formations that have the capability for transpacific crossings:

This would include names in the vicinity of "Felicia," "Guillermo," "Hilda," and leading up to "Jimena", as these fall within a similar period of the season when conditions are favorable for the development and transition of cyclones from EPAC to WPAC.

Conclusion:
The refined focus for 2027, considering storms that form in July and August have the best potential for a transpacific journey, positions "Felicia" to "Jimena" as the segment of names with likely candidates for EPAC to WPAC crossover events. This selection is based on the mid-season formation period that aligns with historical patterns of cyclone behavior, the typical usage of names by this point in the cyclone season, and the aim to identify potential crossover storms within the most favorable timeframe.

I'm probably wrong, but it seems like maybe you made this post about 2 years too early. :D
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Re: When will the next crossover storm happen?

#4 Postby DioBrando » Sun Mar 24, 2024 5:54 pm

Hurricane2022 wrote:
DioBrando wrote:Assessment:

2026 could potentially see names that align with the middle part of the season, based on its alphabetical list, but without the explicit reference to names that have historically made the crossover, it’s about the timing and sequence.

2027 presents names in the list that, by mid-season (July or August), could potentially be in play for naming, fitting the pattern of when transpacific cyclones tend to form. Given the slight preference for spacing out significant events and considering the neutral approach to historical crossovers, 2027 might edge out as more likely for the next transpacific cyclone, based purely on the progression of names by mid-season and the intervals observed historically.


Conclusion:

While both years have potential, 2027 slightly edges out as more likely for the occurrence of a transpacific cyclone that could be named from the list's mid-range.


Key Considerations:

Seasonal Timing: Transpacific cyclones typically form in July or August, suggesting names that appear mid-season are more probable candidates, based on the alphabetical progression of named storms each year.

Historical Patterns: While not prioritizing names that have historically crossed over, we acknowledge that certain conditions favorable for crossover events tend to recur, potentially influencing the likelihood of certain names being candidates based on their timing in the season.

Early names are less likely due to their usage before the July and August window.

Very late names are less likely due to the reduced potential for September-formed storms to make significant transitions.


Potential Crossover Candidates for 2027:
Given the preference for July and August formations that have the capability for transpacific crossings:

This would include names in the vicinity of "Felicia," "Guillermo," "Hilda," and leading up to "Jimena", as these fall within a similar period of the season when conditions are favorable for the development and transition of cyclones from EPAC to WPAC.

Conclusion:
The refined focus for 2027, considering storms that form in July and August have the best potential for a transpacific journey, positions "Felicia" to "Jimena" as the segment of names with likely candidates for EPAC to WPAC crossover events. This selection is based on the mid-season formation period that aligns with historical patterns of cyclone behavior, the typical usage of names by this point in the cyclone season, and the aim to identify potential crossover storms within the most favorable timeframe.

I'm probably wrong, but it seems like maybe you made this post about 2 years too early. :D

And Atlantic --> epac?
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Re: When will the next crossover storm happen?

#5 Postby DioBrando » Sun Mar 24, 2024 6:10 pm

DioBrando wrote:Assessment:

2026 could potentially see names that align with the middle part of the season, based on its alphabetical list, but without the explicit reference to names that have historically made the crossover, it’s about the timing and sequence.

2027 presents names in the list that, by mid-season (July or August), could potentially be in play for naming, fitting the pattern of when transpacific cyclones tend to form. Given the slight preference for spacing out significant events and considering the neutral approach to historical crossovers, 2027 might edge out as more likely for the next transpacific cyclone, based purely on the progression of names by mid-season and the intervals observed historically.


Conclusion:

While both years have potential, 2027 slightly edges out as more likely for the occurrence of a transpacific cyclone that could be named from the list's mid-range.


Key Considerations:

Seasonal Timing: Transpacific cyclones typically form in July or August, suggesting names that appear mid-season are more probable candidates, based on the alphabetical progression of named storms each year.

Historical Patterns: While not prioritizing names that have historically crossed over, we acknowledge that certain conditions favorable for crossover events tend to recur, potentially influencing the likelihood of certain names being candidates based on their timing in the season.

Early names are less likely due to their usage before the July and August window.

Very late names are less likely due to the reduced potential for September-formed storms to make significant transitions.


Potential Crossover Candidates for 2027:
Given the preference for July and August formations that have the capability for transpacific crossings:

This would include names in the vicinity of "Felicia," "Guillermo," "Hilda," and leading up to "Jimena", as these fall within a similar period of the season when conditions are favorable for the development and transition of cyclones from EPAC to WPAC.

Conclusion:
The refined focus for 2027, considering storms that form in July and August have the best potential for a transpacific journey, positions "Felicia" to "Jimena" as the segment of names with likely candidates for EPAC to WPAC crossover events. This selection is based on the mid-season formation period that aligns with historical patterns of cyclone behavior, the typical usage of names by this point in the cyclone season, and the aim to identify potential crossover storms within the most favorable timeframe.

To rank the candidates from most to least likely for a transpacific cyclone in 2027, considering the optimal formation period of July and August, and taking into account the historical pattern and timing of names like "Jimena," we focus on the segment of names that falls around this mid-season period. This range notably includes "Felicia," "Guillermo," "Hilda," and up to "Jimena," as primary examples provided for evaluation.

Ranking Criteria:
Historical Timing: Preference towards names historically associated with or close to the timing of "Jimena," which forms in August.
Seasonal Progression: Names that appear in the middle of the list, reflecting the progression of the cyclone season by July and August, without being too early or too late in the alphabetical sequence.
General Cyclone Behavior: General tendencies for cyclones to develop and potentially cross over during these peak months.

Ranked Candidates for 2027 Transpacific Cyclone:
Jimena: Given its historical formation in August, it naturally ranks highly for potential crossover, aligning perfectly with the peak period.
Hilda: Falling just before "Jimena" in the alphabetical list, "Hilda" is very likely, as it would potentially form close to the optimal crossover period.
Guillermo: Positioned just before "Hilda," "Guillermo" has a strong chance, considering the timing within the season, though slightly less so than "Hilda" due to its earlier position.
Felicia: While still within the favorable window, "Felicia" comes earlier in the list, suggesting it might form slightly before the peak period of July and August, making it slightly less likely than the others for a transpacific journey based on the optimal timing criteria.

Conclusion:
This ranking considers the nuances of cyclone formation timing, particularly emphasizing July and August as the critical months for transpacific cyclones. "Jimena" tops the list due to its historical August formation, closely followed by "Hilda" and "Guillermo," which are also well-positioned in the list to fall within or near this optimal period. "Felicia" remains a candidate but is considered slightly less likely due to its earlier position in the naming sequence, which could correspond to an early to mid-July formation, just preceding the peak period identified. This ranking aims to align with both the historical patterns and the inherent logic of cyclone naming and seasonal development trends.



Based on our comprehensive discussion, the most likely candidate for a transpacific cyclone in 2027, considering all factors—historical data, naming conventions, formation timing, and the tendency for certain names to be associated with multiple crossover events—is "Jimena."

Why "Jimena" is the Most Likely Candidate:
Historical Formation Timing: "Jimena" has a historical precedent of forming in August, aligning perfectly with the peak period for transpacific cyclones. This timing is crucial since we've established that transpacific cyclones predominantly form in July and August.

Position in the Naming List: Positioned in the middle of the 2027 naming list, "Jimena" is likely to be assigned to a storm forming during the optimal crossover window. Given the annual reset of names and the progression through the list by mid-season, "Jimena" falls within the range where conditions are favorable for a cyclone's development and potential transition from EPAC to WPAC.

Tendency for Names to Repeat Crossover Events: While our analysis aimed to neutralize bias towards historically repeating names unless specifically discussing them, "Jimena" stands out not just for its recurrence but also for fitting the optimal formation window based on seasonal cyclone activity.

In summary, considering the July and August formation window for transpacific cyclones, the alphabetical progression of names by this point in the season, and without giving undue precedence to names based solely on past crossover events (except where noted for their typical formation period), "Jimena" emerges as the most likely candidate for a 2027 transpacific cyclone. This conclusion is drawn from its historical timing, placement within the seasonal naming convention, and alignment with the observed conditions conducive to such significant crossover events.
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