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Re: ENSO Updates

#7381 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jan 04, 2017 12:37 pm

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#7382 Postby Digital-TC-Chaser » Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:01 pm

I was just looking at the above M V tweet myself.Wonders if this K/W is the trigger for a large warm pool to again start the long journey east over the EQ.
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Re: ENSO Updates

#7383 Postby Ntxw » Wed Jan 04, 2017 6:26 pm

Macrocane wrote:Hopefully another El Niño doesn't verify, too much heat and dryness in Central America for 3 consecutive years is enough. Last year models showed a strong La Niña and look what we've got.


The +PDO and subtropical circulations have really stunted the La Nina. There are not yet any signs of cooling in the areas just outside of the equatorial Pacific in a lasting manner for a big -enso event
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Re: ENSO Updates

#7384 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jan 08, 2017 8:08 am

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Re: ENSO Updates

#7385 Postby Kingarabian » Sun Jan 08, 2017 10:15 pm

I know it's early but I think we'll see an episode similar to 2009's.
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Re: ENSO Updates

#7387 Postby Ntxw » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:03 pm

Nino 3.4 cooled back to -0.5C this week.

PDO for December cooled a bit to +1.17 which is lower than November but remained above +1 which is warmer than even last December during the raging El Nino. The PDO has now been positive for 36 straight months...it's been a new regime.
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Re: ENSO Updates

#7388 Postby Blown Away » Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:46 pm

Wow, El Niño conditions or near Nino conditions seem to be the new normal...
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Re: ENSO Updates

#7389 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:00 am

CPC January update still has La Nina Advisory but it will be Neutral by Febuary and then going thru the first half of the year.

EL NIÑO/SOUTHERN OSCILLATION (ENSO)
DIAGNOSTIC DISCUSSION
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CLIMATE PREDICTION CENTER/NCEP/NWS
and the International Research Institute for Climate and Society
12 January 2017
 
ENSO Alert System Status: La Niña Advisory
 
Synopsis:  A transition to ENSO-neutral is expected to occur by February 2017, with ENSO-neutral then continuing through the first half of 2017.
La Niña continued during December, with negative sea surface temperature (SST) anomalies continuing across the central and eastern equatorial Pacific [Fig. 1]. The weekly Niño index values fluctuated during the last month, with the Niño-3 and Niño-3.4 regions hovering near and slightly warmer than -0.5°C [Fig. 2]. The upper-ocean heat content anomaly was near zero when averaged across the eastern Pacific [Fig. 3], though near-to-below average subsurface temperatures were evident closer to the surface [Fig. 4]. Atmospheric convection remained suppressed over the central tropical Pacific and enhanced over Indonesia [Fig. 5]. The low-level easterly winds were slightly enhanced over the western Pacific, and upper-level westerly anomalies were observed across the eastern Pacific. Overall, the ocean and atmosphere system remained consistent with a weak La Niña.
The multi-model averages favor an imminent transition to ENSO-neutral (3-month average Niño-3.4 index between -0.5°C and 0.5°C), with ENSO-neutral lasting through August-October (ASO) 2017 [Fig. 6]. Along with the model forecasts, the decay of the subsurface temperature anomalies and marginally cool conditions at and near the ocean surface portends the return of ENSO-neutral over the next month. In summary, a transition to ENSO-neutral is expected to occur by February 2017, with ENSO-neutral then continuing through the first half of 2017 (click CPC/IRI consensus forecast for the chance of each outcome for each 3-month period).
Even as the tropical Pacific Ocean returns to ENSO-neutral conditions, the atmospheric impacts from La Niña could persist during the upcoming months (NOAA's 3-month seasonal outlook will be updated on Thursday, January 19th). The current seasonal outlook for JFM 2017 favors above-average temperatures and below-median precipitation across much of the southern tier of the U.S., and below-average temperatures and above-median precipitation in portions of the northern tier of the U.S.

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/a ... disc.shtml

http://iri.columbia.edu/our-expertise/c ... -cpc_plume

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Re: ENSO: CPC January update:Neutral by Febuary

#7390 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jan 15, 2017 9:11 am

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Re: ENSO: CPC January update:Neutral by Febuary

#7391 Postby Ntxw » Tue Jan 17, 2017 1:06 am

At depth from TAO/Triton. Not a very Nina like.

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Re: ENSO Updates

#7392 Postby cycloneye » Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:59 am

Nino 1+2 warming bigtime in late January.If we get the El Nino sometime in 2017,will it be modoki? What do you think Ntxw?

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Re: ENSO Updates

#7393 Postby Ntxw » Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:34 pm

Its a very early sign. There will actually be a good trade burst that will reinforce some cooling early Feb. I'd wait till March to see if it is a more robust warming or just seasonal variability.
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Re: ENSO Updates

#7394 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jan 26, 2017 12:17 pm

The January plume consensus yellow line stays at warn neutral thru ASO but is early.

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Re: ENSO Updates

#7395 Postby Ntxw » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:26 pm

3.4 cooled a little at -0.4C while Nino 1+2 is at 2C
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Re: ENSO Updates

#7396 Postby Digital-TC-Chaser » Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:22 pm

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Re: ENSO Updates

#7397 Postby Ptarmigan » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:19 pm

Ntxw wrote:3.4 cooled a little at -0.4C while Nino 1+2 is at 2C


That is in the strong threshold. I know Region 1+2 can change quickly.
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Re: ENSO Updates

#7398 Postby Hurricaneman » Tue Jan 31, 2017 12:41 am

Ptarmigan wrote:
Ntxw wrote:3.4 cooled a little at -0.4C while Nino 1+2 is at 2C


That is in the strong threshold. I know Region 1+2 can change quickly.


something like that could shut down hurricane season in the atlantic
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Re: ENSO Updates

#7399 Postby Ntxw » Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:34 am

Nino 1+2 can have big swings in shorter time periods. I wouldn't worry one way or the other this early with that index. In terms of ENSO it is more important this time of year to watch the thermocline (anomalies below the surface) as that is a better long term predictor as well as wind stress above.
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Re: ENSO Updates

#7400 Postby Digital-TC-Chaser » Thu Feb 02, 2017 8:24 pm

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