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Re: ENSO Updates

#10321 Postby TyphoonNara » Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:37 am

Nino 3.4 index up to nearly +1°C.

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#10322 Postby cycloneye » Sat Mar 02, 2019 3:23 pm

Is the Niño 3.4 spike at CDAS noise or is the real deal?
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Re: ENSO Updates

#10323 Postby NotSparta » Sat Mar 02, 2019 3:52 pm

cycloneye wrote:Is the Niño 3.4 spike at CDAS noise or is the real deal?


OISST is even higher. It might be noise, but there's a definite upward trend

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#10324 Postby Kingarabian » Sat Mar 02, 2019 4:12 pm

cycloneye wrote:Is the Niño 3.4 spike at CDAS noise or is the real deal?


I'm not sure if I'm reading the buoys correctly. But:

Nino 3 looks like +0.9C above the eq. and +1.0C under the eq.

Nino 4 looks like +1.1C above the eq. and +1.0C under the eq.

In the middle of all that, theres +1C/+0.9C centerd on the eq.

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So I would say there's credence to this CDAS/OISST jump.
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Re: ENSO Updates

#10325 Postby Kingarabian » Sat Mar 02, 2019 4:13 pm

NotSparta wrote:
cycloneye wrote:Is the Niño 3.4 spike at CDAS noise or is the real deal?


OISST is even higher. It might be noise, but there's a definite upward trend

https://.imgur.com/wuiOvKz.png


i see your charts progressing and your website expanding. Good work and keep it up!
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#10326 Postby Kingarabian » Sat Mar 02, 2019 4:15 pm

But peep the subsurface. The buoys have finally caught up with the PENTAD graphics.

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Re: ENSO Updates

#10327 Postby NotSparta » Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:43 pm

Kingarabian wrote:
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cycloneye wrote:Is the Niño 3.4 spike at CDAS noise or is the real deal?


OISST is even higher. It might be noise, but there's a definite upward trend

https://.imgur.com/wuiOvKz.png


i see your charts progressing and your website expanding. Good work and keep it up!



Thanks! Happy that you like it!! :)

OISST & CDAS agreeing definitely gives credence to the rapid warming of the ENSO regions. Makes sense given massive WWB recently, & the sudden tropical Pacific warming will help it as well
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Re: ENSO Updates

#10328 Postby Shell Mound » Sun Mar 03, 2019 2:32 am

Kingarabian wrote:But peep the subsurface. The buoys have finally caught up with the PENTAD graphics.

https://i.imgur.com/oCqaUXO.png

Current anomalies look to be on a par with or warmer than those at this time in 2015. Am I correct?
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#10329 Postby cycloneye » Sun Mar 03, 2019 7:55 am

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#10330 Postby Kingarabian » Sun Mar 03, 2019 2:38 pm

Shell Mound wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:But peep the subsurface. The buoys have finally caught up with the PENTAD graphics.

https://i.imgur.com/oCqaUXO.png

Current anomalies look to be on a par with or warmer than those at this time in 2015. Am I correct?

I have to double check but I believe so.
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Re: ENSO Updates

#10331 Postby Kingarabian » Sun Mar 03, 2019 3:39 pm

cycloneye wrote:[url]https://twitter.com/MJVentrice/status/1102188714162294784[rl]

This is a very important period for ENSO in regards to 2019 hurricane season effects. If these easterlies become enhanced for an extended period of time, it'll help stop this El Nino from becoming a moderate/strong one and reduce the chances for a double dip El Nino.

Since the atmosphere is now coupled, we may see it "help out" by stopping the MJO from going into phases 4/5 and send it back to phases 8/1/2.

Thanks to the strong February WWB we're seeing continued strengthening of the warm pool with +5C anomalies now showing up.

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#10332 Postby NotSparta » Sun Mar 03, 2019 8:28 pm

Kingarabian wrote:
cycloneye wrote:[url]https://twitter.com/MJVentrice/status/1102188714162294784[rl]

This is a very important period for ENSO in regards to 2019 hurricane season effects. If these easterlies become enhanced for an extended period of time, it'll help stop this El Nino from becoming a moderate/strong one and reduce the chances for a double dip El Nino.

Since the atmosphere is now coupled, we may see it "help out" by stopping the MJO from going into phases 4/5 and send it back to phases 8/1/2.

Thanks to the strong February WWB we're seeing continued strengthening of the warm pool with +5C anomalies now showing up.

https://i.imgur.com/5eKJET2.gif



Yeah, atmospheric coupling is a huge player. It still has the potential to make or break the Niño
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Re: ENSO Updates

#10333 Postby Ntxw » Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:26 pm

SOI looks mostly negative despite what the MJO is doing.
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Re: ENSO Updates

#10334 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Mar 04, 2019 1:55 am

BOM has Nino 3.4 up to +0.8C. So there's now some official credence to the satellite spikes. We'll see what the CPC says tomorrow morning.
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#10335 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Mar 04, 2019 2:24 am

Ntxw wrote:SOI looks mostly negative despite what the MJO is doing.


Looks like there isn't much time for the SOI to rise because the rising air quickly moves into the WPAC and spreads across the Pacific. So it's likely the MJO is not going to be remaining in phases 2/3 for long.

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Edit: 00z Euro has Tahiti around 1011.50mb average and Darwin around 1010 average for the next 7-8 days. So if this verifies, for March 4-March 12 the SOI will average out between -5/-8. So the pressure pattern doesn't seem like it's going to be promoting strong trade bursts for too long. I think by mid March or towards the end of March we may see another WWB.
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Re: ENSO Updates

#10336 Postby cycloneye » Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:47 am

Looks like there will be a big jump in Niño 3.4 on the weekly update by CPC that will be released soon. It was at +0.7C last week.
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Re: ENSO Updates

#10337 Postby Ntxw » Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:25 am

Before we get a weekly update the ONI for DJF again comes in at +0.8C. That is the same as NDJ meaning no weakening in that period from ONI. That is now 4 trimonthly and the last one will come (JFM) next month. We will get the 5th official trimonthly at that time.
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Re: ENSO Updates

#10338 Postby Ntxw » Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:17 am

Jumped to 1.1C...in March. Even though unlikely you're getting rattles of 2015 :lol:
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Re: ENSO: CPC Weekly update of 3/4/19: Niño 3.4 up to +1.1C

#10339 Postby cycloneye » Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:28 am

Niño 3.4 up to +1.1C

It jumped from +0.7C that was in last weeks update.

https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/ ... ts-web.pdf
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Re: ENSO Updates

#10340 Postby StruThiO » Wed Mar 06, 2019 3:10 am

hmmm

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