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Re: ENSO Updates

#9781 Postby Ntxw » Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:38 am

0.4c this week
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Re: ENSO: CPC Weekly update of 7/9/18: Niño 3.4 remains at +0.4C

#9782 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:40 am

CPC weekly update of 7/9/18 has Niño 3.4 remaining at +0.4C.

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/a ... ts-web.pdf
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Re: ENSO Updates

#9783 Postby NDG » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:51 am

LarryWx wrote:
NDG wrote:Nino 4 & Nino 3.4 slightly cooled down last week while Nino 3 & Nino 1+2 warmed up.


I agree with all of this except didn’t Niño 3.4 remain at +0.4?


Ooops, I was looking at the graphics not the actual written update.
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Re: ENSO: CPC Weekly update of 7/9/18: Niño 3.4 remains at +0.4C

#9784 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:52 pm

It's been a seesaw for sure. When Nino 4 and Nino 3.4 warm, Nino 3 and Nino 1+2 lag or cool. Now with Nino 3 and Nino 1+2 warming, Nino 3.4 and Nino 4 are cooling.
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Re: ENSO Updates

#9785 Postby Kingarabian » Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:33 pm

Dr. Ventrice tweeted a lot of useful information today. Visit his page to view them all.

 https://twitter.com/MJVentrice/status/1016714419827593216




 https://twitter.com/MJVentrice/status/1016458184230359041




From the looks of it, he's all in on El Nino this year.
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Re: ENSO Updates

#9786 Postby AtlanticWind » Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:49 am

After he predicted a quiet September in the Atlantic last year right before all h*'ll broke loose
I have kinda doubted his predictions.

That is likely unfair as he seems like a respected hurricane expert.
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Re: ENSO Updates

#9787 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:35 am

@BenNollWeather
SSTs have continued to cool to the northwest of Australia and across Indonesia in recent weeks.

This cool anomaly over the Maritime Continent will work to suppress convection & supports the development an #ElNiño-like atmospheric pattern in the tropical Pacific.


 https://twitter.com/BenNollWeather/status/1016991027800838144


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Re: ENSO Updates

#9788 Postby CyclonicFury » Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:44 am

CPC has released their July ENSO update. No El Niño yet, but they give a 70% chance of an El Niño developing this winter.
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Re: ENSO: CPC July update: 65% of El Niño by Fall / 70% by Winter

#9789 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:20 am

CPC Jyly update still has El Niño Watch but goes up to 65% by Fall and 70% by Winter.

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/a ... disc.shtml

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https://iri.columbia.edu/our-expertise/ ... -cpc_plume
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Re: ENSO: CPC July update: 65% of El Niño by Fall / 70% by Winter

#9790 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:24 am

As always,they add some discussion to what the update said in the ENSO Blog
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Re: ENSO: CPC July update: 65% of El Niño by Fall / 70% by Winter

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Re: ENSO: CPC July update: 65% of El Niño by Fall / 70% by Winter

#9792 Postby Kingarabian » Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:31 pm

 https://twitter.com/MJVentrice/status/1017399964916506624




Goodness gracious look at those 850mb westerly wind anomalies over the WPAC!

Also a strong on going trade burst signal over the eastern portion of the EPAC. But as soon as those westerly anomalies are likely to shift soon from the WPAC to east of the dateline (similar to what we saw in June).
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Re: ENSO: CPC July update: 65% of El Niño by Fall / 70% by Winter

#9793 Postby NotSparta » Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:55 pm

Kingarabian wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/MJVentrice/status/1017399964916506624[tweet]

Goodness gracious look at those 850mb westerly wind anomalies over the WPAC!

Also a strong on going trade burst signal over the eastern portion of the EPAC. But as soon as those westerly anomalies are likely to shift soon from the WPAC to east of the dateline (similar to what we saw in June).


There's a much larger effect on ENSO when they're centered over the equator. It doesn't help as much when the signal is pushed to north or south of the equator
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Re: ENSO: CPC July update: 65% of El Niño by Fall / 70% by Winter

#9794 Postby Siker » Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:11 pm

NotSparta wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/MJVentrice/status/1017399964916506624[tweet]

Goodness gracious look at those 850mb westerly wind anomalies over the WPAC!

Also a strong on going trade burst signal over the eastern portion of the EPAC. But as soon as those westerly anomalies are likely to shift soon from the WPAC to east of the dateline (similar to what we saw in June).


There's a much larger effect on ENSO when they're centered over the equator. It doesn't help as much when the signal is pushed to north or south of the equator


While that definitely sounds intuitive, I'd like to see data or a study that backs it up.
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Re: ENSO: CPC July update: 65% of El Niño by Fall / 70% by Winter

#9795 Postby Kingarabian » Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:19 pm

NotSparta wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/MJVentrice/status/1017399964916506624[tweet]

Goodness gracious look at those 850mb westerly wind anomalies over the WPAC!

Also a strong on going trade burst signal over the eastern portion of the EPAC. But as soon as those westerly anomalies are likely to shift soon from the WPAC to east of the dateline (similar to what we saw in June).


There's a much larger effect on ENSO when they're centered over the equator. It doesn't help as much when the signal is pushed to north or south of the equator

Certainly true, didn't realize that it was a different latitude. Ventrice usually posts those Hovmollers showing the winds @ the equator.
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Re: ENSO: CPC July update: 65% of El Niño by Fall / 70% by Winter

#9796 Postby StruThiO » Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:22 am

Most recent frame shows the warm pool weakening IMO.

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Re: ENSO: CPC July update: 65% of El Niño by Fall / 70% by Winter

#9797 Postby NDG » Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:05 pm

Per the buoys, ENSO regions especially Nino 4 have cooled down since the beginning of the month due to stronger trade winds.

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Re: ENSO: CPC July update: 65% of El Niño by Fall / 70% by Winter

#9798 Postby NotSparta » Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:32 pm

NDG wrote:Per the buoys, ENSO regions especially Nino 4 have cooled down since the beginning of the month due to stronger trade winds.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/BvRpiJX.gif[img]


The phase 5 MJO appears to be slowing the arrival of El Niño a bit
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Re: ENSO: CPC July update: 65% of El Niño by Fall / 70% by Winter

#9799 Postby NDG » Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:46 pm

NotSparta wrote:
NDG wrote:Per the buoys, ENSO regions especially Nino 4 have cooled down since the beginning of the month due to stronger trade winds.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/BvRpiJX.gif[img]


The phase 5 MJO appears to be slowing the arrival of El Niño a bit


Agree and all of the sudden 2009 is not a good analog year to use for this year so far.
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Re: ENSO: CPC July update: 65% of El Niño by Fall / 70% by Winter

#9800 Postby Kingarabian » Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:47 pm

NotSparta wrote:
NDG wrote:Per the buoys, ENSO regions especially Nino 4 have cooled down since the beginning of the month due to stronger trade winds.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/BvRpiJX.gif[img]


The phase 5 MJO appears to be slowing the arrival of El Niño a bit


If I recall correctly, it literally shut down any El Nino chance last season.
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