Proenza's testimony: expects to be back as center director

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Proenza's testimony: expects to be back as center director

#1 Postby Chacor » Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:57 am

http://www.miamiherald.com/416/story/175464.html

Key points:

''The current TPC director should be reassigned and not be allowed to return to his position at the center,'' said the report by the team, assigned by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration to look into the management situation at the center in West Miami-Dade County.

''This should be done due to his failure to demonstrate leadership within the TPC rather than his public statements about the QuikScat satellite or NOAA leadership,'' the report concludes.

Proenza, who ran the center for only six months before being relieved of duty, vigorously defended himself Thursday during testimony to members of the House Committee on Science and Technology.

He said he was being punished for his complaints about the dying QuikScat satellite and NOAA's delay in replacing it and for occasionally bucking management in other ways.

''I dared to call attention to it [QuikScat] and, by golly, I'm going to pay the price for bringing this to the American people,'' he told the committee. ``I have been chastised, threatened, recommended for reassignment and discredited after 40 years of service to my country.''

Nevertheless, he said, he expected to return to his post at the hurricane center.

''I'm still the center's director,'' he testified. ``I need to get back to work. I'm ready to repair bruised relationships wherever they may be.''


Personally, I don't think it's in the NHC's best interests if Proenza returned.
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#2 Postby vacanechaser » Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:14 am

Chacor wrote:http://www.miamiherald.com/416/story/175464.html

Key points:

''The current TPC director should be reassigned and not be allowed to return to his position at the center,'' said the report by the team, assigned by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration to look into the management situation at the center in West Miami-Dade County.

''This should be done due to his failure to demonstrate leadership within the TPC rather than his public statements about the QuikScat satellite or NOAA leadership,'' the report concludes.

Proenza, who ran the center for only six months before being relieved of duty, vigorously defended himself Thursday during testimony to members of the House Committee on Science and Technology.

He said he was being punished for his complaints about the dying QuikScat satellite and NOAA's delay in replacing it and for occasionally bucking management in other ways.

''I dared to call attention to it [QuikScat] and, by golly, I'm going to pay the price for bringing this to the American people,'' he told the committee. ``I have been chastised, threatened, recommended for reassignment and discredited after 40 years of service to my country.''

Nevertheless, he said, he expected to return to his post at the hurricane center.

''I'm still the center's director,'' he testified. ``I need to get back to work. I'm ready to repair bruised relationships wherever they may be.''


Personally, I don't think it's in the NHC's best interests if Proenza returned.



agreed.. it would never work...



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#3 Postby Weatherfreak14 » Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:15 am

He has caused so much disrupption already, and also right in the middle of hurriciane season.
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#4 Postby Chacor » Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:18 am

Let me try to set the tone for this so it doesn't sway too politically or into bashing:

Whether what he did was right or wrong is no longer the concern, regarding going back to the NHC. I just don't think that with this whole mess it'd be smart if he went back. The atmosphere would be really untenable.
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#5 Postby dizzyfish » Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:21 am

I agree too many sour grapes for him to be put back in charge at this point.
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#6 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:22 am

He's paying the price for being an outspoken person. I continue to agree with him but when you're going against the government's interest, you will certainly not win.
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#7 Postby x-y-no » Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:23 am

Chacor wrote:Let me try to set the tone for this so it doesn't sway too politically or into bashing:

Whether what he did was right or wrong is no longer the concern here. I just don't think that with this whole mess it'd be smart if he went back.


I agree. It's just too high-risk to reinstate him just as the season gets going. The forecasters don't need any more distraction than they've already had.

Let Ed Rappaport run the center through the season and then sort things out afterwards.
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Re: Proenza's testimony: expects to be back as center director

#8 Postby DrewFL » Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:24 am

While listening to the questioning I heard it mentioned several times that he's out and that's it.
They're on a break right now. Should be interesting when they reconvene.
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Re: Proenza's testimony: expects to be back as center director

#9 Postby superg77 » Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:28 am

I wish he could come back. He was unfairly ousted.
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#10 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:29 am

Too bad Stacy Stewart isn't due back from resewrve duty in the Middle East for a year. He seems to know his weather, and sounds good talking on TV.
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Re: Proenza's testimony: expects to be back as center director

#11 Postby DrewFL » Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:29 am

Link to the live feed. http://cbs4.com/
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#12 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:30 am

superg77 wrote:I wish he could come back. He was unfairly ousted.


Unfairly ousted or not, it seems that over half the NHC staff, including his administrative assistant, don't want to work with him.


He probably should take the govt. pension and enter the private sector.
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#13 Postby Aquawind » Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:37 am

I wish him the best..somewhere other than NHC. He has done a long service for this country and I am glad he got the chance to speakout for the record. I say we all move on as is with a new fulltime director and some reorganizational changes at the NHC in a few months.
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#14 Postby Frank2 » Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:38 am

What a mess...
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Re: Proenza's testimony: expects to be back as center director

#15 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:47 am

Frank2 wrote:What a mess...


That's the bottomline. Proenza found out what happens when you use the 1st Amendment too much.
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#16 Postby Frank2 » Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:10 pm

Well, I just meant in the general sense - this is one of those "ripples in the water" situations...
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#17 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:14 pm

What we need now is a hurricane in the Atlantic that takes the attention in the public from Proenza to the storm. A good forecast of the storm will bring back to normalcy those unsure that the NHC's experts can do their job. Ed should be the new director, and we can continue with our lives!!! Happily ever after.
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#18 Postby x-y-no » Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:09 pm

HURAKAN wrote:What we need now is a hurricane in the Atlantic that takes the attention in the public from Proenza to the storm. A good forecast of the storm will bring back to normalcy those unsure that the NHC's experts can do their job. Ed should be the new director, and we can continue with our lives!!! Happily ever after.


Rappaport doesn't want the job permanently, from what I've heard. But he'll do a fine job running the place for the season I'm sure.

And I agree - people will calm down a bit once they see the NHC performing as well as ever on a couple of systems.
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Re: Proenza's testimony: expects to be back as center director

#19 Postby Category 5 » Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:13 pm

Chacor wrote:http://www.miamiherald.com/416/story/175464.html

Key points:

''The current TPC director should be reassigned and not be allowed to return to his position at the center,'' said the report by the team, assigned by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration to look into the management situation at the center in West Miami-Dade County.

''This should be done due to his failure to demonstrate leadership within the TPC rather than his public statements about the QuikScat satellite or NOAA leadership,'' the report concludes.

Proenza, who ran the center for only six months before being relieved of duty, vigorously defended himself Thursday during testimony to members of the House Committee on Science and Technology.

He said he was being punished for his complaints about the dying QuikScat satellite and NOAA's delay in replacing it and for occasionally bucking management in other ways.

''I dared to call attention to it [QuikScat] and, by golly, I'm going to pay the price for bringing this to the American people,'' he told the committee. ``I have been chastised, threatened, recommended for reassignment and discredited after 40 years of service to my country.''

Nevertheless, he said, he expected to return to his post at the hurricane center.

''I'm still the center's director,'' he testified. ``I need to get back to work. I'm ready to repair bruised relationships wherever they may be.''


Personally, I don't think it's in the NHC's best interests if Proenza returned.


I agree, we can't have this conflict going on, especially with the peak of the season fast approaching.

In a situation like this I often ask this

WWMMD

What would Max Mayfield do.
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#20 Postby artist » Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:14 pm

I could have sworn I posted.
Thanks for posting the link.
Interesting to say the least. The one thiing we found out for certains is the quikscat is a very valuable tool. Can't wait for more hearings on this.
One more thing - interesting the Adm. had never used the procedure he did with the NHC of sending in an investigative team without advance notice.
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