Convection in the... Mediterranean?

[vbhoutex]

You know what folks? This thread is very close to being locked. The petty arguing going on is ridiculous. Different people have posted the facts concerning this basin. NOTHING any of you say is going to change what is official out there at this time. If you want it changed contact the WMO directly with facts, requests, etc. that may have an effect on any decision they can make concerning this. From what I have read in this thread, it was not a tropical cyclone by definition. What some may want and what actually happened are two different things based on the current parameters in place for designating tropical cyclones. STOP the petty arguments and either discuss the system or other possible Meditteranean systems or this thread will be locked and appropriate actions as necessary will be taken by staff.

I will stop vbhoutex, but what parameters did this not get? I understand they can't name it and your right about going to the WMO. But a case could be argued that was close to definition, of a warm core system based on fsu data. I know, I know we need more then that. But these are two interesting systems.

Matt, go back and read Jeff Master's blog. It pretty clearly states that this did not meet all the parameters for a TC, but he does still try to intimate it was one or at least similar to one. IMO, based just on what he wrote it did not meet the parameters for a named TC. No definite warm core etc.

[stu]

It was a ploar low.

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

Jeff was talking about the Spain system. Which did not look tropical to me up intill the last minute. The system I'm talking about is the central med system, which appeared to be a whole different story.

[JonathanBelles]

The mediterranean system was not in a place to get named, nor should it have been named...thats that. Request to lock the thread.

[Category 5]

The mediterranean system was not in a place to get named, nor should it have been named...thats that. Request to lock the thread.

I agree this thread is just back and forth nonsense now.

[HURAKAN]

It was a nice discussion before it was taken personal between several of our members.

I just want to say that this system has not been the first in the Mediterranean Sea that has looked at least subtropical. It seems logical, in my opinion, to allow an already developed Meteorological agency that usually deals with tropical systems to take over the Mediterranean Sea. I don't see what is the problem of creating another region by the WMO. Is not like the agency will have to be looking for development for about six months of the year, but since these systems pop once in a while in the sea, there should be an agency watching over.

[Chacor]

It wasn't a "nice discussion", it was a discussion in which all the facts were laid out and still refused to be accepted at times.

[HURAKAN]

The mediterranean system was not in a place to get named, nor should it have been named...thats that. Request to lock the thread.

I agree this thread is just back and forth nonsense now.

Fact, that can be changed.

When there's a discussion it will always be back and forth. I say something, you answer, and at the end there must be a compromise or agreement.

[HURAKAN]

It wasn't a "nice discussion", it was a discussion in which all the facts were laid out and still refused to be accepted at times.

That's a discussion. If they were accepted, it would be an agreement!!!

[Coredesat]

Well, the truth is, there is no more organized convection in the Mediterranean (big front is moving through it), the discussion has wandered away from that topic, and this thread has no more use. I'm locking it.