Convection in the... Mediterranean?

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Convection in the... Mediterranean?

#1 Postby Cyclone1 » Sat Oct 13, 2007 1:25 pm

It appears than an area of deep convection has developed over the Mediterannean sea.

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Link to Imageshacked image for archiving purposes.

Compare it to the remnants of TD-15 in the west.
It's probably nothing, but, ehh, worth discussing, right?

Well, the image is several hours old, so... keep that in mind.
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#2 Postby Derek Ortt » Sat Oct 13, 2007 1:34 pm

TC formation is rare in the Med. Yes, we had one last year, but this happens usually once ever few years
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#3 Postby Cyclone1 » Sat Oct 13, 2007 1:40 pm

Oh, yeah I know that very well.

Like I said, it's probably nothing. But hey, looks kinda cool.
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#4 Postby Derek Ortt » Sat Oct 13, 2007 1:41 pm

I take back the once every few years, but they are still rare

This is a sat image from march this year, from UKMET

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/tro ... 032007.gif
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#5 Postby Cryomaniac » Sat Oct 13, 2007 1:43 pm

Who would name this if necessary? Or would it be 50L?
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#6 Postby Derek Ortt » Sat Oct 13, 2007 1:45 pm

nobody names Atlantic hurricanes, though it PROBABLY should be NHC, since it can be argued that it is a part of the Atlantic

Now, what would be interesting is what would happen if a TC were to move from the Atlantic into the Med (Vince came close). Would NHC continue advisories or would be be dropped
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#7 Postby Coredesat » Sat Oct 13, 2007 2:01 pm

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Re: Convection in the... Mediterranean?

#8 Postby HURAKAN » Sat Oct 13, 2007 2:07 pm

Nothing organized, just an explosion of convection.

Before:
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Then:
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Now:
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By the way, to the west of the blob of convection there's an ULL.
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#9 Postby JonathanBelles » Sat Oct 13, 2007 2:11 pm

I was watching something over SE Italy last week.
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#10 Postby Ptarmigan » Sat Oct 13, 2007 2:33 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:nobody names Atlantic hurricanes, though it PROBABLY should be NHC, since it can be argued that it is a part of the Atlantic

Now, what would be interesting is what would happen if a TC were to move from the Atlantic into the Med (Vince came close). Would NHC continue advisories or would be be dropped


Mediterranean Sea is connected to the Atlantic at Strait of Gibraltar, so it would be the Atlantic. It is interesting to see tropical systems develop in the Mediterranean. They are small and they have to contend with dry air, especially from North Africa.
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#11 Postby P.K. » Sat Oct 13, 2007 2:49 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:Now, what would be interesting is what would happen if a TC were to move from the Atlantic into the Med (Vince came close). Would NHC continue advisories or would be be dropped


There must be some agreement with Meteo-France to warn on systems east of 35W. Now what would happen if it got even further east into the Med I don't know as that area is covered by Greece and not France.
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#12 Postby Cryomaniac » Sat Oct 13, 2007 2:57 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:nobody names Atlantic hurricanes, though it PROBABLY should be NHC, since it can be argued that it is a part of the Atlantic

Now, what would be interesting is what would happen if a TC were to move from the Atlantic into the Med (Vince came close). Would NHC continue advisories or would be be dropped


Just realised that what I said made little sense. What I meant was would it be named at all, or would it be called 50L?
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Re: Convection in the... Mediterranean?

#13 Postby gatorcane » Sat Oct 13, 2007 5:44 pm

the title of this topic epitomizes this season --- the fact we are looking at the Mediterranean underscores just how slow things have been for watchers in the U.S. :P
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Re: Convection in the... Mediterranean?

#14 Postby Category 5 » Sat Oct 13, 2007 5:47 pm

gatorcane wrote:the title of this topic epitomizes this season --- the fact we are looking at the Mediterranean underscores just how slow things have been for watchers in the U.S. :P


Bored? Try the WPAC. :wink:
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Re: Convection in the... Mediterranean?

#15 Postby Cyclone1 » Sat Oct 13, 2007 5:51 pm

gatorcane wrote:the title of this topic epitomizes this season --- the fact we are looking at the Mediterranean underscores just how slow things have been for watchers in the U.S. :P


Actually, if the same storm were in the Atlantic, it wouldn't even be mentioned here. It's an extremely rare area for TC development, so if a system that ordinarily would be ignored in the Atlantic formed over the Mediterranean, it causes more intrigue.

On the contrary, when people HAVE to look at the mediterranean for development, that just uderscores how truly bizzare and interesting a season has been.
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Re: Convection in the... Mediterranean?

#16 Postby HurricaneBill » Sat Oct 13, 2007 9:51 pm

I wonder if the Meteorological Institute in Berlin would assign it one of the names they assign to lows.
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Re: Convection in the... Mediterranean?

#17 Postby TheEuropean » Sun Oct 14, 2007 2:55 am

Cyclone1 wrote:Actually, if the same storm were in the Atlantic, it wouldn't even be mentioned here. It's an extremely rare area for TC development, so if a system that ordinarily would be ignored in the Atlantic formed over the Mediterranean, it causes more intrigue.


It's not an extremely rare event. Nearly every year there are one or two systems that develop into a tropical or subtropical system. Most of these systems track unnoticed over the Med.
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Re: Convection in the... Mediterranean?

#18 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sun Oct 14, 2007 3:48 am

I'm thinking that the low forming near 34 north/12.5 east has a good shot at becoming something. We will have to see.
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Re: Convection in the... Mediterranean?

#19 Postby P.K. » Sun Oct 14, 2007 4:08 am

HurricaneBill wrote:I wonder if the Meteorological Institute in Berlin would assign it one of the names they assign to lows.


If it affected central Europe yes but then they name all lows that do.
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#20 Postby Cyclone1 » Sun Oct 14, 2007 11:29 am

Convection still there, north of Lybia.
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