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WWL - NOLA 17th Street Canal Pump is failing and will fail

#1 Postby shawn67 » Tue Aug 30, 2005 6:36 pm

WWL is reporting the 17th street canal pump is failing and will fail causing 10 to 15 feet of flooding on the east bank of Jefferson and Orleans parish


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#2 Postby Scorpion » Tue Aug 30, 2005 6:38 pm

Wow, news keeps getting better doesnt it.
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#3 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Tue Aug 30, 2005 6:39 pm

So when the pump fails 10 to 15 feet of water will crush through New orleans? OMG OMG OMG all the people on there houses need to get out of there.
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#4 Postby vacanechaser » Tue Aug 30, 2005 6:42 pm

Damn! does anyone have any good news from there!! I swear, this looks like it is going to keep getting worse for days to come...


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#5 Postby jpigott » Tue Aug 30, 2005 6:45 pm

someone needs to pass this info onto Shepard Smith from Fox News b/c about the only piece of good news he had on his whole report was that flood waters in NO may have reached there peak b/c the levee breach had been fixed. Unfortunately, i'm more inclined to believe the local news . . . god help NO
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#6 Postby Brent » Tue Aug 30, 2005 6:45 pm

ALL RESIDENTS ON THE EAST BANK OF ORLEANS AND JEFFERSON REMAINING IN THE METRO AREA ARE BEING TOLD TO EVACUATE AS EFFORTS TO SANDBAG THE LEVEE BREAK HAVE ENDED. THE PUMPS IN THAT AREA ARE EXPECTED TO FAIL SOON AND 12-15 FEET OF WATER ARE EXPECTED IN THE ENTIRE EAST BANK.
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Re: WWL - NOLA 17th Street Canal Pump is failing and will fa

#7 Postby cyclone_eye » Tue Aug 30, 2005 6:46 pm

shawn67 wrote:WWL is reporting the 17th street canal pump is failing and will fail causing 10 to 15 feet of flooding on the east bank of Jefferson and Orleans parish


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Hmmm.... I was under the impression that the pumps failed 48 hours due to a lack of electricity.
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Re: WWL - NOLA 17th Street Canal Pump is failing and will fa

#8 Postby Seele » Tue Aug 30, 2005 6:48 pm

cyclone_eye wrote:Hmmm.... I was under the impression that the pumps failed 48 hours due to a lack of electricity.


Pure speculation, but I did hear some of the pumps ran off of fuel. Most likely this is one of them.
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#9 Postby soonertwister » Tue Aug 30, 2005 6:50 pm

Brent wrote:ALL RESIDENTS ON THE EAST BANK OF ORLEANS AND JEFFERSON REMAINING IN THE METRO AREA ARE BEING TOLD TO EVACUATE AS EFFORTS TO SANDBAG THE LEVEE BREAK HAVE ENDED. THE PUMPS IN THAT AREA ARE EXPECTED TO FAIL SOON AND 12-15 FEET OF WATER ARE EXPECTED IN THE ENTIRE EAST BANK.


I could have told them not to waste their time and effort, but in desperate times, you sometimes must resort to desperate measures.

At least they tried, even if I already knew their efforts would almost certainly fail.
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#10 Postby therealashe » Tue Aug 30, 2005 6:50 pm

Water rising at 17th St. canal
Tuesday, 6:30 p.m.

Mayor Ray Nagin has announced that the attempt to plug a breach in the
17th Street canal at the Hammond Highway bridge has failed and the
rising water is about to overwhelm the pumps on that canal.
The result is that water will begin rising rapidly again, and could
reach as high as 3 feet above sea level. In New Orleans and Jefferson
Parish, that means floodwaters could rise as high as 15 feet in the next
few hours.
Nagin urged residents to try to find higher ground as soon as possible.


from http://www.nola.com


How are residents with no power, cable etc, finding out that they need to leave?
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#11 Postby soonertwister » Tue Aug 30, 2005 6:54 pm

How are residents with no power, cable etc, finding out that they need to leave?


Word of mouth, bullhorns, sirens, and rising water.
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#12 Postby JtSmarts » Tue Aug 30, 2005 6:55 pm

Just heard on WWLTV 9 feet of flooding instead of 10-15.
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#13 Postby jpigott » Tue Aug 30, 2005 6:55 pm

really bad news guys - got this from the local station in NO

KHOU TV says to get this out to everyone ASAP. The levee fix has failed. The pump is being disabled. The East Bank of Jefferson Parish is expected to now flood to sea level - estimated 12'-15'. If you can get ahold of relatives, please let them know to get out.

This is not a joke.

The feed I'm watching is:
http://www.khou.com/perl/common/video/w ... s=livenoad
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#14 Postby jhamps10 » Tue Aug 30, 2005 6:56 pm

I have a slight correction here. "THE WATER WILL BE FLOODING IN 12 TO 15 HOURS!!! And it will be only to a height of 9-10 feet." Just said that on WWL. That is still a lot of water... anyone there please, please get out.
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#15 Postby krysof » Tue Aug 30, 2005 6:56 pm

and the big difference is... Flooding is still flooding, a 1 to 4 foot difference is not that big considering what is happening. Its still bad.
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#16 Postby soonertwister » Tue Aug 30, 2005 7:14 pm

I thought that the flooding was expected to top out at 3 feet above sea level, which is probably the current height of the lake.

Three feet above ASL will probably inundate 95% or more of that area with significant depths of water. The areas not under water are going to pack with the remaining people there.

They shouldn't have used just 3000 pound sandbags. What they needed to drop was scrap steel from scrapyards in the area. When you need to emergency patch a broken levee, you need something to collect the floating debris. The sandbags just get lifted and carried with the water, because silica isn't heavy enough.

Check out how beavers make dams, and you'll know what I'm talking about.
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#17 Postby TSmith274 » Tue Aug 30, 2005 7:16 pm

Yes, I heard that from my cousin who is an NOPD officer. Word is that it is overheating and making a "whining" sound. Not good, but just delaying the innevitable, unfortunately.
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#18 Postby ericinmia » Tue Aug 30, 2005 7:17 pm

soonertwister... i agree

I was just talking to friends about that, we need to drop tanks, trucks, scrap metal... whatever! pack the area up, then put the bags up against that! They will then be held in place....


I can't believe all of this...
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#19 Postby simplykristi » Tue Aug 30, 2005 7:19 pm

All's I can say is.. omg.

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#20 Postby jpigott » Tue Aug 30, 2005 7:28 pm

well, sounds like this is going from a catostrophic event to a catostropic event of biblical proportions
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