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Super Typhoon Tip Question

#1 Postby Evil Jeremy » Wed Sep 06, 2006 9:22 pm

what was the wind radius on that storm?
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#2 Postby EDR1222 » Wed Sep 06, 2006 9:26 pm

The size of the circulation of Tip, according to a report from NOAA, was 1,350 miles, so you can imagine the size of that monster.
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#3 Postby WindRunner » Wed Sep 06, 2006 9:34 pm

That is the diameter, however, not the radius.
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#4 Postby Ptarmigan » Wed Sep 06, 2006 9:54 pm

Gale force winds in Super Typhoon Tip extended up to 675 miles. As for hurricane force winds, I wonder how far it extended from the center?
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#5 Postby P.K. » Thu Sep 07, 2006 6:05 pm

Just checked the best track and it says the longest radius of 30kt winds (Roughly equal to 34kts in a one minute average) was to the NW were it extended out 600NM (1110km), with the shortest 30kt radius being 400NM (740km). 50kt (Ten minute average again) winds were however symmetrical at the time out to a distance of 200NM (370km).
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#6 Postby Aslkahuna » Thu Sep 07, 2006 7:35 pm

Should be noted that in 1979 JTWC was considered the Official Typhoon Warning Center-this changed after recon ended in the 1980's and even more so when JT moved to Pearl and the new procedures (and names) went into effect in 2000.

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#7 Postby wxmann_91 » Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:18 pm

The pre-1980's configuration was better. I'm sick of hearing the disputes between JMA and JT.
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#8 Postby Ptarmigan » Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:01 pm

wxmann_91 wrote:The pre-1980's configuration was better. I'm sick of hearing the disputes between JMA and JT.


I've seen reports of Tip at its peak of having sustained winds of either 160 mph and 190 mph.
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#9 Postby Aslkahuna » Fri Sep 08, 2006 5:06 pm

JT carried Tip at 165kt which is 190 mph. Interestingly enough, there are two storms (Angela '95 and Gay '92) in the post recon era that have had higher Dvoraks than Tip and two others, Joan and Ivan in 1997 with similar Dvoraks to Tip but without recon none of those storms were rated as high as Tip.

91, you are always going to see comparisons between JT and JMA because although JMA is the official agency for Typhoon warnings, JT puts out position forecasts out to 120 hours and thus is better for track estimates. Also JTWC puts out a forecast discussion on the storm unlike JMA. Personally, from what I saw on satellite, JMA was slow to declare Ioke ET.

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#10 Postby Jim Cantore » Fri Sep 08, 2006 7:09 pm

I believe TS winds were 1300 out from the center.
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#11 Postby brunota2003 » Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:21 pm

This ought to give you a good size relation...from Wikipedia, the biggest and smallest tropical cyclones:
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The relative sizes of the United States, Typhoon Tip and Cyclone Tracy (the largest and smallest tropical cyclones recorded)
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typhoon_Tip
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#12 Postby JonathanBelles » Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:32 pm

can you put a relative image of tip and florence together.
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#13 Postby Ptarmigan » Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:37 pm

Aslkahuna wrote:JT carried Tip at 165kt which is 190 mph. Interestingly enough, there are two storms (Angela '95 and Gay '92) in the post recon era that have had higher Dvoraks than Tip and two others, Joan and Ivan in 1997 with similar Dvoraks to Tip but without recon none of those storms were rated as high as Tip.

91, you are always going to see comparisons between JT and JMA because although JMA is the official agency for Typhoon warnings, JT puts out position forecasts out to 120 hours and thus is better for track estimates. Also JTWC puts out a forecast discussion on the storm unlike JMA. Personally, from what I saw on satellite, JMA was slow to declare Ioke ET.

Steve


Since Tip is large, think about the storm surge and damage it could cause to any location, whether it is Houston, New Orleans, Miami, or New York. :eek:
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