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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L

#81 Postby Hurricane Alexis » Fri Aug 03, 2012 5:36 pm

It will probably just be a rain maker for most of Florida whether it develops or not.

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#82 Postby NDG » Fri Aug 03, 2012 5:41 pm

Meanwhile here at South Beach the winds have picked up from the NE off the ocean, starting to get that feeling that there is a tropical system out there.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L

#83 Postby Hurricane Alexis » Fri Aug 03, 2012 5:49 pm

The afternoon discussion from miami wasn't buying it.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L

#84 Postby thetraveler » Fri Aug 03, 2012 5:55 pm

We had a nice windy time near Lake Placid earlier today. The winds were hitting around 25mph with some rain. This really will dampen my plans to ride my softtail tomorrow and Sunday. I guess I will just sit here and drink. lol.
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#85 Postby NDG » Fri Aug 03, 2012 5:58 pm

The only thing that I can see that the NHC may not up chances of development by much on their next TWD update is that surface pressures have not fallen much during the day today and remain relatively high.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L

#86 Postby Bocadude85 » Fri Aug 03, 2012 5:59 pm

I see that wxman57 is online.. wondering if he would mind sharing his thoughts on 91L?
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#87 Postby Dean4Storms » Fri Aug 03, 2012 5:59 pm

Jax. FL NWS Web Briefing on 91L.....

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/media/jax/vBrie ... /index.htm
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L

#88 Postby tolakram » Fri Aug 03, 2012 6:11 pm

Live loop, a bunch of frames. http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/ge ... mframes=20

Can't make heads or tails of anything now. :)
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L

#89 Postby Bocadude85 » Fri Aug 03, 2012 6:27 pm

Im not sure this system is going to have enough time over water to do much of anything... Im starting to this this wont be anything more the a tropical depression and I feel even that is pushing it. Just my opinion of course.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L

#90 Postby Evil Jeremy » Fri Aug 03, 2012 6:31 pm

Bocadude85 wrote:Im not sure this system is going to have enough time over water to do much of anything... Im starting to this this wont be anything more the a tropical depression and I feel even that is pushing it. Just my opinion of course.


lol, an hour and a half ago you were thinking that the NHC would bump up the TWO by 20% or 30%.
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#91 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri Aug 03, 2012 6:31 pm

I agree, this is going to be a slow developer if current trends hold. Maybe low-end orange (30%) but no more.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L

#92 Postby Bocadude85 » Fri Aug 03, 2012 6:33 pm

Evil Jeremy wrote:
Bocadude85 wrote:Im not sure this system is going to have enough time over water to do much of anything... Im starting to this this wont be anything more the a tropical depression and I feel even that is pushing it. Just my opinion of course.


lol, an hour and a half ago you were thinking that the NHC would bump up the TWO by 20% or 30%.


I still think they will bump up the TWO but that doesnt guarantee development before this moves ashore.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L

#93 Postby cycloneye » Fri Aug 03, 2012 6:35 pm

20%

THE AREA OF SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS HAS INCREASED OVER EASTERN
CUBA AND THE CENTRAL AND NORTHWESTERN BAHAMAS IN ASSOCIATION WITH A
SURFACE TROUGH. UPPER-LEVEL WINDS MAY BECOME SOMEWHAT MORE
CONDUCIVE FOR DEVELOPMENT OVER THE NEXT DAY OR TWO. HOWEVER...AS
THE TROUGH MOVES TO THE NORTHWEST AT ABOUT 10 MPH...DEVELOPMENT
COULD BE INHIBITED AS THE SYSTEM MOVES OVER OR NEAR THE FLORIDA
PENINSULA BY SUNDAY. THIS SYSTEM HAS A LOW CHANCE...20 PERCENT...OF
BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L

#94 Postby hurricanes1234 » Fri Aug 03, 2012 6:38 pm

I personally think that this system has insufficient time to develop into anything significant within the next 48 hours. However, this would be the opposite case when it hits the very warm waters of the Gulf of Mexico (31 degrees Celsius!), along with the moist air and apparently light shear.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L

#95 Postby MGC » Fri Aug 03, 2012 6:48 pm

Couple of pesky ULL providing a good bit of shear......MGC
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#96 Postby BigB0882 » Fri Aug 03, 2012 6:49 pm

It is also important to remember that the swampy area of Florida it is passing over is probably going to do very little to disturb this system since it is so unorganized as it is. If it should enter into the Gulf then it should have the ability to get cranking if conditions are right.
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#97 Postby fci » Fri Aug 03, 2012 6:56 pm

I agree with those who have some concern if 91L makes it to the GOM.
Not uncommon for messy little systems to not develop at all until they cross Florida.
Or they develop and move into the Atlantic.
No, I'm not really worried here about 91L, I just like the rain filling up the lakes and canals and we have been dry since early this afternoon after some nice squalls earlier today.
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#98 Postby JamesCaneTracker » Fri Aug 03, 2012 6:56 pm

BigB0882 wrote:It is also important to remember that the swampy area of Florida it is passing over is probably going to do very little to disturb this system since it is so unorganized as it is. If it should enter into the Gulf then it should have the ability to get cranking if conditions are right.


But if Ernesto Ramps up then conditions shouldn't be right for this area to develop as well... Ernesto should be sending outflow which would increase shear into the GoM if it becomes a Hurricane...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L

#99 Postby greenkat » Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:02 pm

adam0983 wrote:Does any one think that a tropical storm warning might be required for parts of florida over the next 3 days? Invest 91L looking great at the moment.

Well, a tropical storm warning is only typically issued for parts of land in the immediate vicinity of a tropical storm or rapidly strengthening tropical depression and seeing as 91L fits neither of those categories, I don't think a TS watch or warning is required.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L

#100 Postby Evil Jeremy » Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:10 pm

greenkat wrote:
adam0983 wrote:Does any one think that a tropical storm warning might be required for parts of florida over the next 3 days? Invest 91L looking great at the moment.

Well, a tropical storm warning is only typically issued for parts of land in the immediate vicinity of a tropical storm or rapidly strengthening tropical depression and seeing as 91L fits neither of those categories, I don't think a TS watch or warning is required.


You're right, but only about the immediate. Greenkat was wondering about the next three days, and there is a 20% chance of formation in the next 2 days. If this becomes a TD, there will be watches and warnings for Florida, so I would say there is currently a 20% chance of watches/warnings for parts of Florida.
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