WPAC: HAIYAN - Post-Tropical

[RL3AO]

I'd be surprised if it was below 870mb. Probably in the 870s. Either wait, more intense than Rick or Wilma.

[sicktght311]

Its a shame this side of the world doesnt have a more sophisticated recon system, because i would think this storm would have put out some TRULY historic and ground breaking numbers. Not because i want to see the devastation and destruction, but because storms of this magnitude and rarity offer a glimpse into the science of things that could be missed in other storms. What better storm to observe than the strongest ever recorded in modern times!

That being said, with all of the comparative analysis to tip, wilma, etc.......this storm HAD to be at least in the 870's, if not lower than Tip, and sustained had to be over 200 around the eyewall. Its structure and ferocity is just unmatched at its peak

[galaxy401]

How does this storm compare to Wilma and Rick?

I should be more clear. I meant how does this storm compare to Wilma and Rick microwave/infared wise? Like when Wxman compared it to Katrina.

[RL3AO]

How does this storm compare to Wilma and Rick?

I should be more clear. I meant how does this storm compare to Wilma and Rick microwave/infared wise? Like when Wxman compared it to Katrina.

Haiyan, Wilma, and Rick

[supercane4867]

The climatological tropopause temperature in the Atlantic is about -76°C which is 8°C warmer than West Pacific. This made more difficult for convection to produce very cloud tops here than the environment Haiyan was located. It may not be conclusive to judge intensity difference by consider IR imagery alone.

Anyhow, the only Atlantic hurricane ever compareble to Haiyan in terms of satellite presentation is Hurricane Gilbert with an offical T8.0

[supercane4867]

How does this storm compare to Wilma and Rick?

Haiyan, Wilma, and Rick

This is when Rick has its best look, extremely spectacular storm but just not at Haiyan's level

[cycloneye]

How does this storm compare to Wilma and Rick?

I should be more clear. I meant how does this storm compare to Wilma and Rick microwave/infared wise? Like when Wxman compared it to Katrina.

Haiyan, Wilma, and Rick

http://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/tcdat/tc13/W ... .100pc.jpg

http://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/tcdat/tc05/A ... N-822W.jpg

http://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/tcdat/tc09/E ... W.84pc.jpg

Linda 97 in my view is also up there with that exclusive group.

[hurricanes1234]

I wonder if this will be upgraded to 200 mph in post-analysis.

[somethingfunny]

The sun has risen in the Philippines. We should learn more about the fate of the hardest-hit areas today as helicopter surveys are underway.

[galaxy401]

Okay thanks for the images. Haiyan is an absolute monster compared to those other monster storms. Let's see what the damage is....

[tropicwatch]

Last tweet from Jim Edds:

"Jim Edds ‏@ExtremeStorms 7 Nov
981.4 mb at 6:05am, going out to shoot. Be back in a bit"

Nothing since.

[cycloneye]

TXPQ25 KNES 082119
TCSWNP

A. 31W (HAIYAN)

B. 08/2030Z

C. 12.2N

D. 117.1E

E. THREE/MTSAT

F. T5.5/6.5/W2.5/24HRS

G. IR/EIR

H. REMARKS...SYSTEM HAS WEAKENED RAPIDLY FROM THE T8.0 IT WAS 24HRS
AGO. DT NOW 5.0 BASED ON EITHER CENTER EMBEDDED IN BLACK OR 1.5/10
WHITE BANDING. MET=6.5 AND PAT=6.0. CURRENTLY NO EYE FEATURE. FT BASED
ON CONSTRAINTS.

I. ADDL POSITIONS

NIL


...SWANSON

[CrazyC83]

Based on that latest data, 105 kt seems most reasonable right now IMO. But the pressure is probably still very low.

[ManilaTC]

Typhoon Haiyan must be about 300 km SW of Manila, but we are still getting some nasty gusts up to this time here.

Wunderground is giving gusts reaching 70kph!
03:49am 23.3 °C 18.2°C 1004.3hPa NE 61.1km/h 73.4km/h
Quite a huge windfield...

Saw the first pictures out of our hometown, Ormoc. And I am a loss for words.

[CrazyC83]

Typhoon Haiyan must be about 300 km SW of Manila, but we are still getting some nasty gusts up to this time here.

Wunderground is giving gusts reaching 70kph!
03:49am 23.3 °C 18.2°C 1004.3hPa NE 61.1km/h 73.4km/h
Quite a huge windfield...

Saw the first pictures out of our hometown, Ormoc. And I am a loss for words.

Praying for you all!!! It's absolutely terrifying. Those winds can still do damage even with what you are getting now. It is a very large storm too now, so even some of the outer provinces may have significant damage.

[ManilaTC]

If you can check the video out of this page of the GMA Network, even if you cant understand the Tagalog, no words can describe the sight.

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/33 ... s-reported

[Alyono]

Typhoon Haiyan must be about 300 km SW of Manila, but we are still getting some nasty gusts up to this time here.

Wunderground is giving gusts reaching 70kph!
03:49am 23.3 °C 18.2°C 1004.3hPa NE 61.1km/h 73.4km/h
Quite a huge windfield...

Saw the first pictures out of our hometown, Ormoc. And I am a loss for words.

are they worse in Ormoc than those from Thelma?

[ManilaTC]

Typhoon Haiyan must be about 300 km SW of Manila, but we are still getting some nasty gusts up to this time here.

Wunderground is giving gusts reaching 70kph!
03:49am 23.3 °C 18.2°C 1004.3hPa NE 61.1km/h 73.4km/h
Quite a huge windfield...

Saw the first pictures out of our hometown, Ormoc. And I am a loss for words.

are they worse in Ormoc than those from Thelma?

Thelma in 1991 caused a flashflood, destroyed homes with the flood and muck was everywhere after.

But not like this, no structure was not damaged. Based on the pictures I saw. Trees were debarked, coconut trees split like matchsticks... Twisted metal billboards like chicken wire...

I saw a post in the Ormoc City, Leyte community facebook page saying... "like in 1991, Ormoc shall rise again". Such resiliency.

[ManilaTC]

By the way we still havent heard from our folk there.

[CrazyC83]

Haiyan was also a very large storm for the region (easy to forget) size-wise. The damage probably extends across several provinces.

In terms of geographic footprint, it was larger than Katrina and about the size of Irene and Ike.