EPAC: CARLOS - Recon

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EPAC: CARLOS - Recon

#1 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Mon Jun 15, 2015 12:50 pm

First mission, through 17:41:30Z:
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#2 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Mon Jun 15, 2015 12:56 pm

On the SE to NW pass:

Lowest HDOB estimated pressure: 994.0 mb
Flight Level Wind (30 sec. Avg.): 63 knots (72.5 mph)
Peak (10 sec. Avg.) Flight Level Wind: 69 knots (79.4 mph)
SFMR Peak (10s Avg.) Sfc. Wind: 67 knots (77.1 mph)
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#3 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:01 pm

995mb was where 62 knots of wind was found. (wind from the S at 185°) Surface center is displaced.



URPN12 KNHC 151747
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE EP032015
A. 15/17:17:10Z
B. 16 deg 52 min N
102 deg 43 min W
C. 700 mb 3043 m
D. 61 kt
E. 127 deg 1 nm
F. 232 deg 52 kt
G. 125 deg 3 nm
H. 995 mb
I. 6 C / 3048 m
J. 13 C / 3046 m
K. 2 C / NA
L. OPEN SW
M. C15
N. 12345 / 7
O. 0.02 / 1.5 nm
P. AF308 0103E CARLOS OB 13
MAX OUTBOUND AND MAX FL WIND 69 KT 308 / 10 NM 17:20:00Z
SFC CNTR 185 / 62 NM FROM FL CNTR


Product: Air Force Vortex Message (URPN12 KNHC)
Transmitted: 15th day of the month at 17:47Z
Agency: United States Air Force
Aircraft: Lockheed WC-130J Hercules with reg. number AF98-5308
Storm Number & Year: 03 in 2015
Storm Name: Carlos (flight in the Northeast Pacific basin)
Mission Number: 1
Observation Number: 13
A. Time of Center Fix: 15th day of the month at 17:17:10Z
B. Center Fix Coordinates: 16°52'N 102°43'W (16.8667N 102.7167W)
C. Minimum Height at Standard Level: 3,043m (9,984ft) at 700mb
D. Estimated (by SFMR or visually) Maximum Surface Wind: 61kts (~ 70.2mph)
E. Location of the Estimated Maximum Surface Wind: 1 nautical miles (1 statute miles) to the SE (127°) of center fix
F. Maximum Flight Level Wind Inbound: From 232° at 52kts (From the SW at ~ 59.8mph)
G. Location of Maximum Flight Level Wind Inbound: 3 nautical miles (3 statute miles) to the SE (125°) of center fix
H. Minimum Sea Level Pressure: 995mb (29.39 inHg)
I. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Outside Eye: 6°C (43°F) at a pressure alt. of 3,048m (10,000ft)
J. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Inside Eye: 13°C (55°F) at a pressure alt. of 3,046m (9,993ft)
K. Dewpoint Temp (collected at same location as temp inside eye): 2°C (36°F)
K. Sea Surface Temp (collected at same location as temp inside eye): Not Available
L. Eye Character: Open in the southwest
M. Eye Shape & Diameter: Circular with a diameter of 15 nautical miles (17 statute miles)
N. Fix Determined By: Penetration, Radar, Wind, Pressure and Temperature
N. Fix Level: 700mb
O. Navigational Fix Accuracy: 0.02 nautical miles
O. Meteorological Accuracy: 1.5 nautical miles



Remarks Section:
Maximum Outbound and Flight Level Wind: 69kts (~ 79.4mph) which was observed 10 nautical miles (12 statute miles) to the NW (308°) from the flight level center at 17:20:00Z
Displacement of Sfc. Center From Flt. Lvl. Center: Surface center is 62 nautical miles (71 statute miles) to the S (185°) from the flight level center



EDIT: Next vortex had much smaller displacement of surface center from flight center.
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#4 Postby Extratropical94 » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:16 pm

Another center pass (SW->NE): 992 mb, borderline cat 1 FL winds in NE quad

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URPN15 KNHC 151812
AF308 0103E CARLOS HDOB 34 20150615
180200 1636N 10307W 6965 03165 0067 +093 +012 330023 025 030 000 00
180230 1637N 10305W 6966 03161 0068 +091 +014 326023 025 030 000 00
180300 1638N 10304W 6969 03157 0061 +095 +015 319023 024 032 000 00
180330 1640N 10303W 6967 03157 0061 +093 +016 314025 026 034 001 00
180400 1641N 10302W 6965 03157 0053 +096 +016 311027 028 034 000 00
180430 1642N 10300W 6973 03144 0045 +099 +016 310031 032 038 002 00
180500 1643N 10259W 6962 03153 0041 +098 +017 309033 034 041 002 00
180530 1645N 10258W 6968 03136 0024 +107 +017 314037 038 044 001 00
180600 1645N 10258W 6968 03136 0014 +108 +018 322042 044 048 000 00
180630 1647N 10255W 6964 03129 9992 +118 +019 325042 046 050 000 00
180700 1648N 10254W 6966 03112 9968 +126 +021 321037 043 051 000 00
180730 1649N 10253W 6972 03095 9945 +135 +023 316025 033 047 000 03
180800 1651N 10251W 6976 03076 9932 +133 +025 329013 021 035 000 00
180830 1652N 10250W 6968 03084 9939 +123 +026 036001 005 029 000 00
180900 1653N 10249W 6961 03087 9931 +127 +026 106003 007 028 000 00
180930 1654N 10247W 6968 03074 9923 +132 +026 145012 015 035 001 00
181000 1656N 10246W 6967 03078 9935 +123 +026 145021 024 042 002 03
181030 1657N 10245W 6961 03087 9947 +114 +026 142033 040 069 014 03
181100 1659N 10244W 6937 03125 0005 +077 +023 150056 063 066 020 00
181130 1700N 10243W 7000 03068 0031 +072 +014 142058 063 069 040 03
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#5 Postby Yellow Evan » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:23 pm

63 knt SFMR supports at least 65 knts.
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#6 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:25 pm

Final image I am posting. This imagery is too confusing with a displaced center so far away.

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#7 Postby Yellow Evan » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:27 pm

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URPN15 KNHC 151822
AF308 0103E CARLOS HDOB 35 20150615
181200 1702N 10242W 6946 03158 0047 +074 +004 139052 058 066 026 03
181230 1704N 10241W 6967 03132 0052 +078 -007 141049 051 059 017 00
181300 1705N 10239W 6968 03138 0065 +077 -013 138044 047 049 009 00
181330 1707N 10238W 6964 03148 0061 +085 -017 134039 042 046 008 00
181400 1708N 10237W 6968 03149 0081 +074 -017 127037 040 044 007 00
181430 1709N 10236W 6966 03153 0069 +084 -017 121032 035 042 008 00
181500 1711N 10235W 6968 03153 0063 +091 -016 125028 030 041 003 00
181530 1712N 10234W 6966 03157 0064 +092 -014 134030 031 039 000 00
181600 1714N 10233W 6971 03154 0072 +087 -010 129030 031 037 000 00
181630 1715N 10232W 6965 03163 0072 +088 -004 128029 030 035 000 03
181700 1716N 10231W 6965 03163 0073 +087 +000 123027 029 034 000 00
181730 1718N 10229W 6967 03162 0074 +087 +003 125026 026 034 000 03
181800 1719N 10228W 6967 03162 0076 +086 +006 126026 026 035 000 00
181830 1720N 10227W 6966 03163 0078 +085 +008 127026 026 035 000 00
181900 1722N 10226W 6969 03163 0083 +082 +010 130026 026 034 000 00
181930 1723N 10225W 6967 03165 0087 +080 +011 130027 027 035 000 00
182000 1725N 10224W 6967 03166 0086 +082 +012 133026 027 034 000 03
182030 1726N 10222W 6967 03165 0080 +087 +012 136024 025 034 000 00
182100 1727N 10221W 6969 03165 0083 +085 +013 140022 025 035 000 00
182130 1729N 10220W 6967 03166 0087 +082 +013 133016 019 036 000 00
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#8 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:34 pm

Mission over.
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#9 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:36 pm

Previous vortex was wrong about such a large displacement based on latest vortex:



URPN12 KNHC 151826
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE EP032015
A. 15/18:08:40Z
B. 16 deg 52 min N
102 deg 50 min W
C. 700 mb 3040 m
D. 51 kt
E. 226 deg 5 nm
F. 325 deg 46 kt
G. 226 deg 6 nm
H. 994 mb
I. 10 C / 3046 m
J. 14 C / 3044 m
K. 3 C / NA
L. OPEN SW
M. C12
N. 12345 / 7
O. 0.02 / 1.5 nm
P. AF308 0103E CARLOS OB 20
MAX FL WIND 69 KT 350 / 6 NM 17:20:00Z
MAX OUTBOUND FL WIND 63 KT 043 / 9 NM 18:11:00Z
SFC CNTR 230 / 19 NM FROM FL CNTR



Product: Air Force Vortex Message (URPN12 KNHC)
Transmitted: 15th day of the month at 18:26Z
Agency: United States Air Force
Aircraft: Lockheed WC-130J Hercules with reg. number AF98-5308
Storm Number & Year: 03 in 2015
Storm Name: Carlos (flight in the Northeast Pacific basin)
Mission Number: 1
Observation Number: 20
A. Time of Center Fix: 15th day of the month at 18:08:40Z
B. Center Fix Coordinates: 16°52'N 102°50'W (16.8667N 102.8333W)
C. Minimum Height at Standard Level: 3,040m (9,974ft) at 700mb
D. Estimated (by SFMR or visually) Maximum Surface Wind: 51kts (~ 58.7mph)
E. Location of the Estimated Maximum Surface Wind: 5 nautical miles (6 statute miles) to the SW (226°) of center fix
F. Maximum Flight Level Wind Inbound: From 325° at 46kts (From the NW at ~ 52.9mph)
G. Location of Maximum Flight Level Wind Inbound: 6 nautical miles (7 statute miles) to the SW (226°) of center fix
H. Minimum Sea Level Pressure: 994mb (29.36 inHg)
I. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Outside Eye: 10°C (50°F) at a pressure alt. of 3,046m (9,993ft)
J. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Inside Eye: 14°C (57°F) at a pressure alt. of 3,044m (9,987ft)
K. Dewpoint Temp (collected at same location as temp inside eye): 3°C (37°F)
K. Sea Surface Temp (collected at same location as temp inside eye): Not Available
L. Eye Character: Open in the southwest
M. Eye Shape & Diameter: Circular with a diameter of 12 nautical miles (14 statute miles)
N. Fix Determined By: Penetration, Radar, Wind, Pressure and Temperature
N. Fix Level: 700mb
O. Navigational Fix Accuracy: 0.02 nautical miles
O. Meteorological Accuracy: 1.5 nautical miles

Remarks Section:
Maximum Flight Level Wind: 69kts (~ 79.4mph) which was observed 6 nautical miles to the N (350°) from the flight level center at 17:20:00Z
Maximum Flight Level Wind Outbound: 63kts (~ 72.5mph) which was observed 9 nautical miles to the NE (43°) from the flight level center at 18:11:00Z
Displacement of Sfc. Center From Flt. Lvl. Center: Surface center is 19 nautical miles (22 statute miles) to the SW (230°) from the flight level center
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Re: EPAC: CARLOS - Recon

#10 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:41 pm

Completed mission:

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On that last pass, the winds were not higher than the previous pass. Only the estimated HDOB surface pressure was lower at 992.3 mb.
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Re: EPAC: CARLOS - Recon

#11 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Tue Jun 16, 2015 12:14 pm

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#12 Postby galaxy401 » Tue Jun 16, 2015 12:17 pm

Are there any obs from the plane?
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#13 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Tue Jun 16, 2015 12:17 pm

URPN15 KNHC 161709
AF304 0203E CARLOS HDOB 28 20150616
165900 1723N 10407W 6961 03146 0053 +090 +090 263048 050 056 007 00
165930 1725N 10406W 6962 03127 0023 +094 +094 256057 060 066 012 00
170000 1727N 10405W 6960 03100 9987 +101 +101 251066 069 079 011 00
170030 1727N 10405W 6960 03100 9900 +118 +113 244065 070 081 008 03
170100 1731N 10405W 6965 03027 9872 +117 +103 229019 057 076 003 03
170130 1732N 10406W 6965 03021 9861 +123 +087 157003 009 028 003 00
170200 1733N 10408W 6966 03015 9838 +140 +080 291005 006 032 002 00
170230 1733N 10409W 6963 03019 9857 +123 +103 005029 043 053 014 03
170300 1734N 10411W 6974 03028 9892 +115 +097 004063 070 067 032 00
170330 1734N 10413W 6963 03084 9953 +103 +071 013065 069 071 017 00
170400 1734N 10415W 6961 03115 0004 +092 +076 020054 060 062 006 00
170430 1735N 10417W 6963 03133 0034 +087 //// 026051 054 058 008 05
170500 1735N 10417W 6963 03133 0050 +085 //// 027045 049 053 008 05
170530 1737N 10419W 6953 03160 0045 +088 +083 038043 045 050 005 03
170600 1738N 10420W 6976 03140 0059 +085 +072 043043 045 048 004 00
170630 1739N 10421W 6961 03162 0079 +075 +069 043040 041 048 004 00
170700 1741N 10423W 6966 03159 0099 +075 +075 052040 040 048 009 00
170730 1742N 10424W 6968 03163 0103 +079 +079 054038 041 045 012 00
170800 1744N 10425W 6965 03166 0104 +074 //// 053035 037 042 008 01
170830 1745N 10426W 6965 03171 //// +082 //// 060031 034 040 002 01

Extrapolated Sfc. Pressure from HDOB (estimated): 983.8 mb

Southern Eyewall:

Flight Level Wind (30 sec. Avg.): From 251° at 66 knots (From the WSW at ~ 76.0 mph)
Peak (10 sec. Avg.) Flight Level Wind: 70 knots (~ 80.6 mph) <-- Also in western eyewall
SFMR Peak (10s Avg.) Sfc. Wind: 79 knots (~ 90.9 mph) with 11 mm/hr (~ 0.43 in/hr) rain rate... (81 knots next to it was flagged)
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#14 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Tue Jun 16, 2015 12:23 pm

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#15 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Tue Jun 16, 2015 12:34 pm

URPN15 KNHC 161729
AF304 0203E CARLOS HDOB 30 20150616
171900 1811N 10452W 6963 03191 0097 +087 +047 066013 015 022 001 03
171930 1809N 10451W 6963 03190 0097 +090 +043 060013 013 021 000 00
172000 1807N 10451W 6965 03190 0098 +090 +042 058013 014 022 000 00
172030 1805N 10451W 6965 03189 0097 +090 +044 060015 016 023 001 03
172100 1804N 10451W 6966 03188 0097 +085 +047 061016 016 /// /// 03
172130 1802N 10451W 6966 03189 0099 +087 +047 059015 015 /// /// 03
172200 1800N 10451W 6965 03189 0107 +079 +060 052015 015 /// /// 03
172230 1758N 10451W 6966 03188 0102 +083 +056 054015 016 /// /// 03
172300 1756N 10451W 6965 03189 0098 +086 +050 053016 016 /// /// 03
172330 1754N 10451W 6965 03189 0096 +090 +048 055016 016 /// /// 03
172400 1752N 10451W 6965 03189 0095 +089 +051 052015 016 /// /// 03
172430 1750N 10451W 6965 03190 0097 +090 +049 046014 015 /// /// 03
172500 1749N 10451W 6963 03190 0097 +090 +047 039013 014 /// /// 03
172530 1747N 10451W 6965 03190 0097 +090 +047 040011 012 /// /// 03
172600 1745N 10451W 6965 03189 0098 +087 +052 034011 012 /// /// 03
172630 1743N 10451W 6965 03189 0102 +085 +053 026011 011 /// /// 03
172700 1741N 10451W 6965 03189 0106 +080 +057 014011 012 /// /// 03
172730 1739N 10451W 6965 03189 0106 +080 +061 004010 011 /// /// 03
172800 1737N 10451W 6963 03191 0105 +080 +061 353010 011 /// /// 03
172830 1735N 10451W 6964 03189 0101 +082 +057 352010 010 /// /// 03

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#16 Postby Yellow Evan » Tue Jun 16, 2015 12:37 pm

I'd go 80/982 personally.
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#17 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Tue Jun 16, 2015 12:39 pm

URPN12 KNHC 161738
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE EP032015
A. 16/17:01:50Z
B. 17 deg 32 min N
104 deg 07 min W
C. 700 mb 2972 m
D. 79 kt
E. 158 deg 6 nm
F. 244 deg 70 kt
G. 158 deg 6 nm
H. 985 mb
I. 8 C / 3050 m
J. 14 C / 3050 m
K. NA / NA
L. CLOSED
M. C8
N. 12345 / 07
O. 0.02 / 1 nm
P. AF304 0203E CARLOS OB 11
MAX FL WIND 70 KT 158 / 6 NM 17:00:30Z
SFC CNTR 170 / 6 NM FROM FL CNTR
MAX INBOUND EYEWALL DROPSONDE SFC WIND 106 KT 135 / 08 NM 1704:50Z
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#18 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Tue Jun 16, 2015 12:41 pm

Sonde gust is momentary.

Sonde

994mb (29.36 inHg)
Surface (Sea Level)
106 knots (122 mph)


UZPN13 KNHC 161738
XXAA 66177 99175 71041 04774 99994 25409 17106 00551 ///// /////
92634 22208 21090 85369 19809 23076 70027 11001 25068 88999 77999
31313 09608 81700
61616 AF304 0203E CARLOS OB 12
62626 EYEWALL 135 MBL WND 20089 AEV 07775 DLM WND 22577 993697 WL
150 18591 084 REL 1745N10408W 170005 SPG 1752N10401W 170450 =
XXBB 66178 99175 71041 04774 00994 25409 11850 19809 22709 13206
33697 10400
21212 00994 17106 11993 17105 22988 18589 33980 19592 44973 20078
55965 20590 66952 21088 77945 21098 88939 21100 99931 21098 11921
21086 22912 21085 33903 21579 44864 22580 55850 23076 66697 24568
31313 09608 81700
61616 AF304 0203E CARLOS OB 12
62626 EYEWALL 135 MBL WND 20089 AEV 07775 DLM WND 22577 993697 WL
150 18591 084 REL 1745N10408W 170005 SPG 1752N10401W 170450 =
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#19 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Tue Jun 16, 2015 12:43 pm

It could also be a bad reading.
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#20 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Tue Jun 16, 2015 12:43 pm

URPN15 KNHC 161739
AF304 0203E CARLOS HDOB 31 20150616
172900 1733N 10451W 6965 03189 0102 +083 +056 356011 012 /// /// 03
172930 1732N 10451W 6966 03188 0104 +083 +055 348013 013 /// /// 03
173000 1730N 10451W 6965 03188 0102 +084 +053 332012 013 /// /// 03
173030 1728N 10451W 6963 03190 0102 +083 +055 323012 012 /// /// 03
173100 1726N 10451W 6965 03189 0102 +085 +056 317011 012 /// /// 03
173130 1724N 10451W 6965 03189 0098 +085 +059 309014 016 /// /// 03
173200 1722N 10451W 6965 03190 0097 +087 +049 304017 017 /// /// 03
173230 1720N 10451W 6966 03188 0091 +091 +050 290018 018 /// /// 03
173300 1718N 10451W 6965 03190 0090 +091 +050 295016 018 /// /// 03
173330 1717N 10451W 6963 03191 0096 +090 +057 295017 017 /// /// 03
173400 1715N 10451W 6965 03191 0098 +088 +060 291016 017 /// /// 03
173430 1713N 10451W 6963 03192 0097 +090 +055 294016 017 /// /// 03
173500 1711N 10451W 6965 03191 0098 +087 +055 294017 018 /// /// 03
173530 1709N 10451W 6965 03192 0102 +086 +054 295016 018 /// /// 03
173600 1707N 10451W 6965 03194 0104 +085 +049 291015 017 /// /// 03
173630 1705N 10451W 6963 03194 0110 +081 +053 287017 018 /// /// 03
173700 1704N 10451W 6964 03194 0106 +084 +053 294016 018 /// /// 03
173730 1702N 10451W 6966 03191 0107 +084 +052 305014 015 /// /// 03
173800 1700N 10451W 6965 03194 0103 +085 +046 308014 014 /// /// 03
173830 1658N 10451W 6966 03192 0104 +085 +049 312013 014 /// /// 03
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