ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#41 Postby DioBrando » Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:32 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:If the southern center is taking over, I could see the probs increase dramatically. And, if we remember from 12 years ago, things can go kaboom in a hurry...

not to mention that same name returns this year :double:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#42 Postby Frank P » Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:33 pm

Latest HR Euro shows the northern low as the dominant low, moving over SW LA Sabine Pass area in about 10 hours as a 1006 mb low... I’m thinking the more southern low will become the dominate one... find out soon enough..
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#43 Postby Craters » Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:41 pm

GCANE wrote:Not sure if this took a sudden dive to the south out of radar range, or if it just fell apart.


I'm guessing the former -- it sure doesn't look like it's falling apart on the satellite presentation.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#44 Postby TheProfessor » Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:48 pm

It was mentioned early, but the models have been hinting at this storm doing a loop. 12z Euro seems to loop some of the energy back into the gulf.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#45 Postby facemane » Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:50 pm

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:I don't see how this system has enough time to even get close to TD status even considering the favorable conditions.


Climatology,stalling,or slow movement are among the factors this time of year. Never take your eye off a gulf system over water in late August
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#46 Postby Nimbus » Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:53 pm

GCANE wrote:CAPE ridge feeding this is now up to 6000.
That's about as high as it gets.
Massive anticyclone has developed over this.


Levi put the second (potential) LLC right near the middle of the building high pressure dome.
No more dry air issues from shear, so I'm becoming concerned this area won't just go poof after the diurnal max.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#47 Postby Cpv17 » Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:55 pm

TheProfessor wrote:It was mentioned early, but the models have been hinting at this storm doing a loop. 12z Euro seems to loop some of the energy back into the gulf.


Yeah it just sits out in the central GOM for a few days and slowly meanders westward.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#48 Postby GCANE » Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:59 pm

Might be shifting east.
Looks like a big-ass tower just fired off.
Seeing a 4500 CAPE Ridge south of it feeding into this.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#49 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Aug 24, 2019 2:00 pm

seabreeze's kicked in and have stopped the westerly inflow temporarily. that should not be an issue in a few hours.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#50 Postby underthwx » Sat Aug 24, 2019 2:10 pm

Will 90L , and the bulk of its moisture remain off the Texas coast?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#51 Postby Frank P » Sat Aug 24, 2019 2:11 pm

GCANE wrote:Might be shifting east.
Looks like a big-ass tower just fired off.
Seeing a 4500 CAPE Ridge south of it feeding into this.

Sat loops do suggest a subtle eastern shift/motion
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#52 Postby GCANE » Sat Aug 24, 2019 2:22 pm

Based on the LL Infeeds and Towers firing off, this maybe the area.


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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#53 Postby SoupBone » Sat Aug 24, 2019 2:30 pm

underthwx wrote:Will 90L , and the bulk of its moisture remain off the Texas coast?


Well I can tell you North Houston is hot, no rain, nothing. It's partly cloudy here. :lol:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#54 Postby Steve » Sat Aug 24, 2019 2:34 pm

First couple showers about to rotate in
https://www.weather.gov/lix/
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#55 Postby GCANE » Sat Aug 24, 2019 2:49 pm

Alll that prolonged convection warmed the mid-layer enough to create an inversion.
Result is a drop off in convection.
However, towers firing off in the area extrapolated to be the center of the LL convergence.
In other words, it maybe tightening up.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#56 Postby Frank P » Sat Aug 24, 2019 3:06 pm

Long run sat loops looks like a motion off to the NE has begun... system has been forecast most of the week to eventually go off to the north and east after it got in the NW Gulf, then kind of hug the NGOM coast.... no one predicted even an invest for this system so it’s already an overachiever! :D
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#57 Postby tropicwatch » Sat Aug 24, 2019 3:15 pm

The 850mb vorticity map now depicting some vorticity more offshore.

http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/windmain.php?&basin=atlantic&sat=wg8&prod=vor&zoom=&time=
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#58 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Aug 24, 2019 3:24 pm

have to wait for the seabreezes to die later then some real consolidation will take place.. it was close earlier until the seabreezes.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#59 Postby GCANE » Sat Aug 24, 2019 4:09 pm

All the latent heat created by the wide-area long-duration convection obviously has entrained into the 500mb vort.
Based on where I am seeing the convection persist to fire.
Looks like we have a well defined warm core.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#60 Postby GCANE » Sat Aug 24, 2019 4:14 pm

Well defined vortical hot towers starting their dance.

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