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ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#1 Postby cycloneye » Sun Oct 11, 2020 12:22 pm

Only model runs.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#2 Postby cycloneye » Sun Oct 11, 2020 12:50 pm

SHIP is down there.

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* GFS version *
* ATLANTIC 2020 SHIPS INTENSITY FORECAST *
* IR SAT DATA AVAILABLE, OHC AVAILABLE *
* INVEST AL932020 10/11/20 18 UTC *

TIME (HR) 0 6 12 18 24 36 48 60 72 84 96 108 120 132 144 156 168
V (KT) NO LAND 20 19 18 18 17 17 17 17 15 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
V (KT) LAND 20 19 18 18 17 17 17 17 15 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
V (KT) LGEM 20 20 19 19 18 16 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
Storm Type TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP

SHEAR (KT) 20 22 28 32 27 31 30 30 30 32 25 29 31 30 21 25 26
SHEAR ADJ (KT) 5 5 4 2 1 3 0 2 1 3 3 3 -5 -4 -4 -3 -3
SHEAR DIR 249 262 261 262 269 270 284 271 273 269 280 273 289 290 301 294 298
SST (C) 29.3 29.3 29.3 29.3 29.2 29.4 29.4 29.4 29.3 29.3 29.3 29.3 29.6 29.5 29.3 29.7 29.9
POT. INT. (KT) 159 158 158 157 155 157 157 156 155 156 157 157 162 161 157 164 168
ADJ. POT. INT. 159 158 158 157 155 155 153 150 149 152 154 153 158 157 152 159 163
200 MB T (C) -54.5 -54.5 -54.6 -54.6 -54.4 -54.5 -54.3 -54.4 -54.3 -54.3 -54.0 -53.8 -53.5 -53.3 -53.4 -53.5 -53.6
200 MB VXT (C) 0.0 0.0 -0.1 -0.2 -0.2 -0.2 -0.1 -0.1 -0.1 0.0 -0.1 -0.1 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
TH_E DEV (C) 10 10 10 11 12 10 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 10 10
700-500 MB RH 61 61 58 57 58 59 59 59 61 61 63 65 64 67 65 66 65
MODEL VTX (KT) 7 7 8 8 8 8 6 5 4 4 3 3 LOST LOST LOST LOST LOST
850 MB ENV VOR 10 6 0 -11 -10 -23 -29 -33 -12 -12 -14 -19 -25 -5 0 22 29
200 MB DIV 20 32 6 9 23 34 25 21 32 16 24 -18 -6 1 -2 12 31
700-850 TADV 3 0 0 -1 -1 -6 -3 -4 -1 -6 0 1 0 -2 2 5 0
LAND (KM) 860 768 698 650 644 658 707 686 610 521 465 500 362 196 164 166 100
LAT (DEG N) 9.9 10.0 10.2 10.4 10.8 11.5 12.1 12.7 13.3 13.9 14.6 15.3 15.9 xx.x xx.x xx.x xx.x
LONG(DEG W) 46.2 47.7 49.0 50.2 51.2 52.8 54.0 55.0 56.0 57.4 59.2 61.2 63.3 xxx.x xxx.x xxx.x xxx.x
STM SPEED (KT) 16 14 12 11 10 7 6 5 6 9 10 10 10 11 11 11 11
HEAT CONTENT 47 45 49 54 55 64 61 57 56 63 53 45 59 83 80 80 59

FORECAST TRACK FROM TABM INITIAL HEADING/SPEED (DEG/KT):270/ 18 CX,CY: -17/ 0
T-12 MAX WIND: 15 PRESSURE OF STEERING LEVEL (MB): 812 (MEAN=620)
GOES IR BRIGHTNESS TEMP. STD DEV. 50-200 KM RAD: 17.3 (MEAN=14.5)
% GOES IR PIXELS WITH T < -20 C 50-200 KM RAD: 46.0 (MEAN=65.0)
PRELIM RI PROB (DV .GE. 35 KT IN 36 HR): 2.8

INDIVIDUAL CONTRIBUTIONS TO INTENSITY CHANGE
6 12 18 24 36 48 60 72 84 96 108 120 132 144 156 168
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SAMPLE MEAN CHANGE 1. 2. 3. 4. 6. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 12. 13. 14. 14. 15. 16.
SST POTENTIAL -1. -2. -3. -3. -0. 7. 16. 22. 27. 31. 35. 40. 44. 47. 49. 49.
VERTICAL SHEAR MAG 1. 2. 2. 2. 2. -2. -8. -14. -20. -25. -27. -29. -31. -33. -34. -34.
VERTICAL SHEAR ADJ -0. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. -0. 0. 0. 0.
VERTICAL SHEAR DIR -0. -1. -1. -2. -3. -5. -6. -7. -8. -8. -9. -10. -11. -11. -10. -10.
PERSISTENCE -0. -1. -1. -1. -0. -0. -0. -0. -0. 0. 0. 0. -0. -0. -1. -0.
200/250 MB TEMP. -0. -0. -0. -0. 0. 0. 0. 1. 1. 1. 1. 2. 2. 3. 5. 6.
THETA_E EXCESS 0. 0. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. -0.
700-500 MB RH -0. -0. -0. -0. -1. -1. -1. -2. -2. -2. -3. -3. -3. -3. -4. -3.
MODEL VTX TENDENCY 0. 0. 0. 0. -1. -3. -5. -7. -9. -11. -12. -13. -13. -13. -12. -12.
850 MB ENV VORTICITY -0. -0. -0. -0. -1. -1. -2. -2. -2. -3. -3. -3. -3. -3. -4. -3.
200 MB DIVERGENCE -0. -0. -0. -0. -0. -0. -0. -0. -0. -0. 0. 1. 1. 1. 1. 2.
850-700 T ADVEC 0. -0. -0. -0. -0. -0. -1. -1. -1. -0. -0. -0. -0. -0. -0. -0.
ZONAL STORM MOTION -0. -0. 0. 0. 1. 1. 2. 2. 3. 4. 5. 5. 5. 5. 5. 5.
STEERING LEVEL PRES -0. -0. -1. -1. -2. -2. -1. -2. -3. -3. -4. -4. -3. -2. -2. -3.
DAYS FROM CLIM. PEAK -0. 0. 0. 0. 0. -0. -0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 1. 1. 1. 1.
GOES PREDICTORS -0. -0. -0. -0. -1. -2. -2. -3. -3. -3. -3. -3. -3. -2. -2. -1.
OCEAN HEAT CONTENT 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. -0. -0. -0. -0. -0. -0. -0. -0. 0. 0.
RI POTENTIAL -0. -1. -1. -2. -3. -3. -2. -1. -0. 1. 1. 2. 3. 3. 3. 3.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTAL CHANGE -1. -2. -2. -3. -3. -3. -3. -5. -8. -8. -7. -3. 2. 6. 11. 14.

CURRENT MAX WIND (KT): 20. LAT, LON: 9.9 46.2

** 2020 ATLANTIC RI INDEX AL932020 INVEST 10/11/20 18 UTC **
(SHIPS-RII PREDICTOR TABLE for 30 KT OR MOREMAXIMUM WIND INCREASE IN NEXT 24-h)

Predictor Value RI Predictor Range Scaled Value(0-1) % Contribution
12 HR PERSISTENCE (KT) : 0.0 -49.5 to 33.0 0.60 999.0
850-200 MB SHEAR (KT) : 26.1 30.1 to 2.3 0.15 999.0
HEAT CONTENT (KJ/CM2) : 50.0 0.0 to 151.8 0.33 999.0
STD DEV OF IR BR TEMP : 17.3 36.6 to 2.8 0.57 999.0
MAXIMUM WIND (KT) : 20.0 22.5 to 137.5 0.00 0.0
2nd PC OF IR BR TEMP : 1.1 2.9 to -2.9 0.31 999.0
BL DRY-AIR FLUX (W/M2) : 116.8 895.4 to -55.0 0.82 999.0
POT = MPI-VMAX (KT) : 137.4 27.5 to 139.6 0.98 999.0
D200 (10**7s-1) : 18.0 -29.7 to 185.9 0.22 999.0
%area of TPW <45 mm upshear : 62.2 100.0 to 0.0 0.38 999.0

SHIPS Prob RI for 20kt/ 12hr RI threshold= 0% is 0.0 times climatological mean ( 5.0%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 25kt/ 24hr RI threshold= 0% is 0.0 times climatological mean (10.9%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 30kt/ 24hr RI threshold= 0% is 0.0 times climatological mean ( 6.9%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 35kt/ 24hr RI threshold= 0% is 0.0 times climatological mean ( 3.9%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 40kt/ 24hr RI threshold= 0% is 0.0 times climatological mean ( 2.5%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 45kt/ 36hr RI threshold= 0% is 0.0 times climatological mean ( 4.6%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 55kt/ 48hr RI threshold= 0% is 0.0 times climatological mean ( 4.6%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 65kt/ 72hr RI threshold= 0% is 0.0 times climatological mean ( 5.2%)

Matrix of RI probabilities
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RI (kt / h) | 20/12 | 25/24 | 30/24 | 35/24 | 40/24 | 45/36 | 55/48 |65/72
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SHIPS-RII: 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0%
Logistic: 1.8% 3.2% 3.1% 1.8% 0.2% 0.6% 0.3% 0.4%
Bayesian: 0.1% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0%
Consensus: 0.6% 1.1% 1.0% 0.6% 0.1% 0.2% 0.1% 0.1%
DTOPS: 999.0% 999.0% 999.0% 999.0% 999.0% 999.0% 999.0% 999.0%

## ANNULAR HURRICANE INDEX (AHI) AL932020 INVEST 10/11/20 18 UTC ##
## STORM NOT ANNULAR, SCREENING STEP FAILED, NPASS=1 NFAIL=6 ##
## AHI= 0 (AHI OF 100 IS BEST FIT TO ANN. STRUC., 1 IS MARGINAL, 0 IS NOT ANNULAR) ##

** PROBLTY OF AT LEAST 1 SCNDRY EYEWL FORMTN EVENT AL932020 INVEST 10/11/2020 18 UTC **
TIME(HR) 0-12 12-24(0-24) 24-36(0-36) 36-48(0-48)
CLIMO(%) 0 0( 0) 0( 0) 0( 0) <-- PROB BASED ON INTENSITY ONLY
PROB(%) 0 0( 0) 0( 0) 0( 0) <-- FULL MODEL PROB (RAN NORMALLY)

** DSHIPS INTENSITY FORECAST ADJUSTED RELATIVE TO ONSET OF ERC WEAKENING PHASE **
TIME (HR) 0 6 12 18 24 36 48 60 72 84 96 108 120 132 144 156 168
>24HR AGO (DSHIPS) 20 19 18 18 17 17 17 17 15 DIS DIS DIS DIS DIS DIS DIS DIS
18HR AGO 20 19 18 18 17 17 17 17 15 DIS DIS DIS DIS DIS DIS DIS DIS
12HR AGO 20 17 16 16 15 15 15 15 DIS DIS DIS DIS DIS DIS DIS DIS DIS
6HR AGO 20 DIS DIS DIS DIS DIS DIS DIS DIS DIS DIS DIS DIS DIS DIS DIS DIS
NOW CURRENT INTENSITY < 83 KT
IN 6HR INTENSITY IN 6HR < 83 KT
IN 12HR INTENSITY IN 12HR < 83 KT
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#3 Postby SFLcane » Sun Oct 11, 2020 12:57 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#4 Postby toad strangler » Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:10 pm

12z GEFS favor the Jamaica to Central Cuba and out to the NE scenario. Way too far out to take that verbatim.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#5 Postby TheStormExpert » Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:12 pm

12z GFS and GEFS are through central Cuba and The Bahamas.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#6 Postby ronjon » Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:22 pm

12z CMC has different 500 mb pattern than GFS with trough lifting out along east coast. Meanwhile GFS has deep long wave trough down into northern gulf. Its why 10 day operational runs are pretty worthless.

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=gem&region=watl&pkg=z500a&runtime=2020101112&fh=234
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#7 Postby aspen » Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:17 pm

It seems like the “magic date” for this system is October 19th. That’s when most of the model runs start to develop it by, including the 12z GFS-Para. It takes a while and it meanders in the SW Caribbean for some time, but it rapidly intensifies as it nears Cuba.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#8 Postby ElectricStorm » Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:20 pm

aspen wrote:It seems like the “magic date” for this system is October 19th. That’s when most of the model runs start to develop it by, including the 12z GFS-Para. It takes a while and it meanders in the SW Caribbean for some time, but it rapidly intensifies as it nears Cuba.

Is this the same system that models show development in the Western Caribbean or will that be a different system?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#9 Postby aspen » Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:27 pm

Weather Dude wrote:
aspen wrote:It seems like the “magic date” for this system is October 19th. That’s when most of the model runs start to develop it by, including the 12z GFS-Para. It takes a while and it meanders in the SW Caribbean for some time, but it rapidly intensifies as it nears Cuba.

Is this the same system that models show development in the Western Caribbean or will that be a different system?

The same one. I believe this wave will at least partially contribute to it.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#10 Postby cycloneye » Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:18 am

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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#11 Postby Blown Away » Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:06 pm

Assuming 93L will play some role in the Caribbean storm being shown in the long range modeling. Late October, any NW Caribbean storm will either bury into CA or eject NE anywhere from SFL to PR.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#12 Postby Blinhart » Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:02 pm

As long as it stays out of the Gulf, I'd be happy.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#13 Postby Nimbus » Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:37 pm

Blinhart wrote:As long as it stays out of the Gulf, I'd be happy.

Weak(as an open wave) and west from its current position until it finds more favorable conditions.
Too far north already to hide in Honduras.
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