Hurricane Gordon - Cat. 3

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#361 Postby SouthFloridawx » Sun Sep 17, 2006 11:45 am

Cyclenall wrote:
HurricaneHunter914 wrote:He kinda looks annular.

He doesn't look annular at all. He looked annular days ago.

I can't believe it is still alive!

Why is that? The NHC forecast had Gordon still alive longer then this and now Gordon strengthened.

Gordon is trying to get better organized it appears. I doubt this will be Epsilon 2.0 since he was a different type of "animal".


They are allowed to be suprised he is still alive out there.
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#362 Postby whereverwx » Sun Sep 17, 2006 11:53 am

Here's the longest loop i have ever posted; it's over 70 hours long.

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#363 Postby Evil Jeremy » Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:00 pm

watch it stall in the middle and not move (the storm) for a few seconds. lol.
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#364 Postby hial2 » Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:30 pm

Evil Jeremy wrote:watch it stall in the middle and not move (the storm) for a few seconds. lol.


Could be an optical illusion...I also saw the "stall"..And is not a few seconds..the frames are 30 mins apart..
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#365 Postby WindRunner » Sun Sep 17, 2006 5:24 pm

hial2 wrote:
Evil Jeremy wrote:watch it stall in the middle and not move (the storm) for a few seconds. lol.


Could be an optical illusion...I also saw the "stall"..And is not a few seconds..the frames are 30 mins apart..


And it's 70 hours worth of data . . . i.e. that thing stalled for a good 24+ hours before drifting west and then accelerating NE.
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#366 Postby Epsilon_Fan » Sun Sep 17, 2006 6:15 pm

he's becoming another Epsilon... imitation is the sincerest form of flattery :)
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#367 Postby senorpepr » Sun Sep 17, 2006 6:27 pm

Cyclenall wrote:
HurricaneHunter914 wrote:He kinda looks annular.

He doesn't look annular at all. He looked annular days ago.


He NEVER looked annular.

No storms this year have look annular--or never close to being annular.

"Annular hurricanes are axisymmetric — symmetric along every radial axis, i.e. very circular in appearance. They lack the spiralform rainbands which are characteristic of typical tropical cyclones."

"Annular hurricanes are very rare. Few storms meet all of the criteria, although many strong storms resemble annular hurricanes in some criteria. Fewer than 1% of Atlantic tropical cyclones encounter all of the environmental conditions associated with annular hurricanes. In the Eastern Pacific, such conditions are more common, but still very unusual — 3% of Pacific tropical cyclones encounter them."
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#368 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Mon Sep 18, 2006 1:36 am

Looks like our friend is strengthing...Deep convection wraping around the eye. Maybe back up to 80 knots.
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#369 Postby Emmett_Brown » Mon Sep 18, 2006 4:57 am

senorpepr wrote:
Cyclenall wrote:
HurricaneHunter914 wrote:He kinda looks annular.

He doesn't look annular at all. He looked annular days ago.


He NEVER looked annular.

No storms this year have look annular--or never close to being annular.

"Annular hurricanes are axisymmetric — symmetric along every radial axis, i.e. very circular in appearance. They lack the spiralform rainbands which are characteristic of typical tropical cyclones."

"Annular hurricanes are very rare. Few storms meet all of the criteria, although many strong storms resemble annular hurricanes in some criteria. Fewer than 1% of Atlantic tropical cyclones encounter all of the environmental conditions associated with annular hurricanes. In the Eastern Pacific, such conditions are more common, but still very unusual — 3% of Pacific tropical cyclones encounter them."


Are there any notable examples in the Atlantic that we can look to in history?

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#370 Postby senorpepr » Mon Sep 18, 2006 5:06 am

Emmett_Brown wrote:Are there any notable examples [of annular hurricanes] in the Atlantic that we can look to in history?

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The best example was Hurricane Isabel of 2003.

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#371 Postby P.K. » Mon Sep 18, 2006 8:20 am

The models are up to 75kts now. The highest possible wind alert has now been issued for the western area of the Azores warning of sustained ten minute winds exceeding 87km/h.

http://web.meteo.pt/en/previsao/SAM/sam.jsp
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#372 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Sep 18, 2006 8:44 am

18/1145 UTC 36.9N 48.6W T4.5/4.5 GORDON -- Atlantic Ocean


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85 mph. Gordon continues to defy the NHC!!!
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#373 Postby Thunder44 » Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:21 am

Is Gordon still strenghtening and threatening the Azores? Do you I have to do a forecast for him too? :D
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#374 Postby HenkL » Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:20 am

News release from British Met Office:

September storm


18 September 2006

Met Office forecasters are warning that, over the coming days, western Europe, including the British Isles, could feel the effects of an ex-tropical storm, with the potential for prolonged heavy rain, unseasonably high temperatures and strong winds.

Hurricane Gordon is currently in the mid-Atlantic, but is moving east towards the Azores. Through this week it is expected to lose its strength, but the effects of the storm will be felt closer to home as the remnants influence the weather across the UK during the second half of the week.

This weekend sees the Autumnal equinox. It is not uncommon at this time of year for the remains of ex-tropical cyclones (such as tropical storms and hurricanes) to move into northern latitudes and affect the weather across Europe. The impacts of such events are extremely variable. On this occasion we expect to see:

* heavy, prolonged rain, especially in northern and western areas;
* unseasonably high temperatures, possibly up to 28 °C, especially across south eastern areas;
* the potential for very strong winds, especially affecting northern and western areas;
* large sea swells coming onto south-west and west-facing beaches.

There is still doubt about how the weather pattern will develop over coming days and the detail of the forecast will be important. If the likelihood of severe weather across the UK increases, the Met Office will issue severe weather warnings as part of its remit as the UK's national weather service. It is advisable that people check the latest weather forecast to see how things are developing.

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The map shows the most likely paths that Hurricane Gordon and the subsequent remnants of the cyclone could take. These computer model scenarios are based on data from the European Centre for Medium Range Weather Forecasts (ECMWF). The scale represents the percentage probability of the cyclone centre being located in that area. The black line is the forecast track from the operational run of the ECMWF model.

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#375 Postby CronkPSU » Mon Sep 18, 2006 12:07 pm

all i want to know is...will it effect the ryder cup in ireland???
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#376 Postby P.K. » Mon Sep 18, 2006 1:23 pm

CronkPSU wrote:all i want to know is...will it effect the ryder cup in ireland???


Don't worry, we will still beat the USA. :wink: (I haven't even heard of four of your players so I don't know if they have even played in Europe before!)

Several of the GFS members are suggesting a fair bit of rain over the weekend. http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/MT8_Dublin_ens.png
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#377 Postby HenkL » Mon Sep 18, 2006 1:24 pm

CronkPSU wrote:all i want to know is...will it effect the ryder cup in ireland???

Possible. The Irish meteo office Met Éireann in todays outlook:
However present indications suggest some very wet weather will affect many areas (especially eastern and southeastern) on Thursday night and Friday morning and possibly becoming very windy for a while on Friday as well. The rain will clear to heavy blustery showers during Friday and winds will ease down later in the day.
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#378 Postby CronkPSU » Mon Sep 18, 2006 3:53 pm

P.K. wrote:
CronkPSU wrote:all i want to know is...will it effect the ryder cup in ireland???


Don't worry, we will still beat the USA. :wink: (I haven't even heard of four of your players so I don't know if they have even played in Europe before!)


oh come on now...that is every ryder cup for you euros and you still beat us with a bunch of nobodies...you better hope tiger continues his ryder cup poor play :lol:
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#379 Postby brunota2003 » Mon Sep 18, 2006 3:54 pm

you dont see this in an NHC discussion everyday:
BECAUSE OF THE UNCERTAINTY IN THE TIMING
OF THE EXTRATROPICAL TRANSITION...A TROPICAL STORM WATCH IS ISSUED
FOR THE AZORES. HOWEVER...REGARDLESS OF THE EXACT STRUCTURE OF THE
CYCLONE...STRONG WINDS ARE LIKELY TO BE EXPERIENCED IN THE AZORES.
You guys stay safe over there for me ya hear?
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#380 Postby P.K. » Mon Sep 18, 2006 3:59 pm

The NHC are a bit slow there, the first warning was issued at 1200 GMT (See one of my previous posts on this page). At 1800 GMT a warning was also issued for the central area of the Azores and I expect they'll issue one for the eastern Azores soon.
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