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#1 Postby cycloneye » Sun Oct 09, 2005 8:00 am

I leave the title only with Vince because at 11 AM we will know if they have it as sub or tropical.I will go to church so anyone post the 11 AM advisorie.
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#2 Postby senorpepr » Sun Oct 09, 2005 9:46 am

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WTNT23 KNHC 091445
TCMAT3
TROPICAL STORM VINCE FORECAST/ADVISORY NUMBER 1
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL232005
1500Z SUN OCT 09 2005

TROPICAL STORM CENTER LOCATED NEAR 34.0N 19.2W AT 09/1500Z
POSITION ACCURATE WITHIN 15 NM

PRESENT MOVEMENT TOWARD THE NORTHEAST OR 45 DEGREES AT 4 KT

ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE 1001 MB
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS 45 KT WITH GUSTS TO 55 KT.
34 KT....... 60NE 60SE 60SW 60NW.
12 FT SEAS.. 60NE 60SE 60SW 60NW.
WINDS AND SEAS VARY GREATLY IN EACH QUADRANT. RADII IN NAUTICAL
MILES ARE THE LARGEST RADII EXPECTED ANYWHERE IN THAT QUADRANT.

REPEAT...CENTER LOCATED NEAR 34.0N 19.2W AT 09/1500Z
AT 09/1200Z CENTER WAS LOCATED NEAR 33.8N 19.3W

FORECAST VALID 10/0000Z 34.7N 18.3W
MAX WIND 45 KT...GUSTS 55 KT.
34 KT... 60NE 60SE 60SW 60NW.

FORECAST VALID 10/1200Z 36.3N 16.1W
MAX WIND 45 KT...GUSTS 55 KT.
34 KT... 75NE 75SE 60SW 40NW.

FORECAST VALID 11/0000Z 39.1N 13.6W...EXTRATROPICAL
MAX WIND 45 KT...GUSTS 55 KT.
34 KT... 90NE 90SE 30SW 0NW.

FORECAST VALID 11/1200Z...ABSORBED BY FRONT

REQUEST FOR 3 HOURLY SHIP REPORTS WITHIN 300 MILES OF 34.0N 19.2W

NEXT ADVISORY AT 09/2100Z

FORECASTER KNABB


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#3 Postby senorpepr » Sun Oct 09, 2005 9:47 am

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WTNT33 KNHC 091446
TCPAT3
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TROPICAL STORM VINCE ADVISORY NUMBER 1
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
11 AM EDT SUN OCT 09 2005

...20TH NAMED STORM OF THE SEASON FORMS IN AN UNUSUAL LOCATION... IN
THE FAR EASTERN ATLANTIC SOUTHEAST OF THE AZORES AND CLOSE TO THE
MADEIRA ISLANDS...

SATELLITE IMAGERY INDICATES THAT THE PREVIOUSLY NON-TROPICAL LOW
PRESSURE SYSTEM BETWEEN THE AZORES AND THE CANARY ISLANDS HAS
ACQUIRED TROPICAL CHARACTERISTICS AND BECOME A TROPICAL STORM.

AT 11 AM EDT...1500Z...THE CENTER OF TROPICAL STORM VINCE WAS
LOCATED NEAR LATITUDE 34.0 NORTH... LONGITUDE 19.2 WEST OR ABOUT
515 MILES... 830 KM... EAST-SOUTHEAST OF THE AZORES. THIS POSITION
IS ALSO ABOUT 140 MILES... 225 KM... NORTHWEST OF THE MADEIRA
ISLANDS.

VINCE IS MOVING TOWARD THE NORTHEAST NEAR 5 MPH... 7 KM/HR. A
CONTINUED NORTHEASTWARD MOTION AND A GRADUAL INCREASE IN FORWARD
SPEED ARE EXPECTED DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 50 MPH... 85 KM/HR... WITH HIGHER
GUSTS. LITTLE CHANGE IN STRENGTH IS FORECAST DURING THE NEXT 24
HOURS.

TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 70 MILES... 110 KM
FROM THE CENTER.

ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 1001 MB...29.56 INCHES.

REPEATING THE 11 AM EDT POSITION...34.0 N... 19.2 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...NORTHEAST NEAR 5 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED
WINDS... 50 MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1001 MB.

THE NEXT ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER AT
5 PM EDT.

FORECASTER KNABB


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#4 Postby senorpepr » Sun Oct 09, 2005 10:01 am

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WTNT43 KNHC 091500
TCDAT3
TROPICAL STORM VINCE DISCUSSION NUMBER 1
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
11 AM EDT SUN OCT 09 2005

THE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM OF NON-TROPICAL ORIGIN THAT HAS BEEN NEARLY
STATIONARY IN THE FAR EASTERN ATLANTIC... IN BETWEEN THE AZORES AND
THE CANARY ISLANDS... HAS BEEN ACQUIRING TROPICAL CHARACTERISTICS
DURING THE PAST 24 HOURS OR SO. WHETHER OR NOT THIS SYSTEM IS NOW A
TROPICAL OR A SUBTROPICAL STORM IS SOMEWHAT OF A SUBJECTIVE
DETERMINATION. EVEN THOUGH THIS SYSTEM IS SITUATED OVER SEA
SURFACE TEMPERATURES OF 23-24 CELSIUS AND IS BENEATH A LARGE
MID/UPPER LEVEL TROUGH... IT NOW HAS SEVERAL CHARACTERISTICS THAT
WARRANT CLASSIFICATION AS TROPICAL STORM VINCE. THE CYCLONE IS
ISOLATED AND IS QUITE SYMMETRIC WITH A SMALL RADIUS OF MAXIMUM
WINDS... PERHAPS 20-25 N MI... AND WHILE IT IS EMBEDDED WITHIN A
LARGER ENVELOPE OF CYCLONIC FLOW AT THE SURFACE... THE INNER CORE
OF CONVECTION ONLY HAS A DIAMETER OF ABOUT 100 N MI. UPPER LEVEL
ANTICYCLONIC FLOW IS NOT APPARENT ON SATELLITE ANIMATIONS... BUT A
07Z AMSU OVERPASS REVEALS A WEAK UPPER LEVEL WARM CORE. CYCLONE
PHASE SPACE ANALYSES FROM FLORIDA STATE UNIVERSITY INDICATE THIS
SYSTEM IS SYMMETRIC AND NOT VERY FAR ON THE COLD CORE SIDE OF THE
SPECTRUM.

THE INITIAL INTENSITY OF 45 KT IS SUPPORTED BY A 0640Z QUIKSCAT
OVERPASS AND BY SUBTROPICAL SATELLITE CLASSIFICATIONS FROM TAFB AND
SAB OF 3.0 BASED ON THE HEBERT-POTEAT TECHNIQUE. SINCE SUBTROPICAL
CLASSIFICATIONS HAVE BEEN MADE ON THIS SYSTEM FOR THE PAST DAY OR
SO... VINCE COULD EASILY BE DEEMED TO HAVE BECOME A SUBTROPICAL
STORM YESTERDAY. VINCE HAS BEEN CUT OFF FROM THE MIDLATITUDE
WESTERLIES FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF DAYS... BUT NOW SEEMS TO BE
MOVING NORTHEASTWARD AT ABOUT 4 KT. A GRADUAL INCREASE IN FORWARD
SPEED ALONG THIS SAME HEADING IS EXPECTED UNTIL VINCE MERGES WITH A
FRONTAL SYSTEM APPROACHING FROM THE NORTHWEST.

FORECASTER KNABB


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INITIAL 09/1500Z 34.0N 19.2W 45 KT
12HR VT 10/0000Z 34.7N 18.3W 45 KT
24HR VT 10/1200Z 36.3N 16.1W 45 KT
36HR VT 11/0000Z 39.1N 13.6W 45 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
48HR VT 11/1200Z...ABSORBED BY FRONT


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#5 Postby sponger » Sun Oct 09, 2005 10:54 am

Wow! What a freaky season!
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#6 Postby Dave R » Sun Oct 09, 2005 12:17 pm

Are hurricane seasons getting more bizzare or what? Ever since the tropical cyclone formed in the South Atantic, it seems that unusual things have been ocurring. I know this could be just the normal cyclical increase in hurricane activity that you hear so much about, but could it also be a much more disturbing trend? And. I have a question regarding that cycle of increased hurricane activity that is supposed to ocurr every so many years,... What is the cause of that increase? Has anyone been able to figure it out. What type of cycle could take 40 years (or whatever it is) to re-ocurr? Can someone tell me?
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#7 Postby Brent » Sun Oct 09, 2005 3:43 pm

WOW!!!

HURRICANE VINCE FORECAST/ADVISORY NUMBER 2
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL232005
2100Z SUN OCT 09 2005

HURRICANE CENTER LOCATED NEAR 34.2N 18.6W AT 09/2100Z
POSITION ACCURATE WITHIN 15 NM

PRESENT MOVEMENT TOWARD THE NORTHEAST OR 45 DEGREES AT 5 KT

ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE 987 MB
EYE DIAMETER 10 NM
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS 65 KT WITH GUSTS TO 80 KT.
64 KT....... 15NE 15SE 15SW 15NW.
50 KT....... 30NE 30SE 30SW 30NW.
34 KT....... 70NE 70SE 70SW 70NW.
12 FT SEAS.. 70NE 70SE 70SW 70NW.
WINDS AND SEAS VARY GREATLY IN EACH QUADRANT. RADII IN NAUTICAL
MILES ARE THE LARGEST RADII EXPECTED ANYWHERE IN THAT QUADRANT.

REPEAT...CENTER LOCATED NEAR 34.2N 18.6W AT 09/2100Z
AT 09/1800Z CENTER WAS LOCATED NEAR 34.1N 18.9W

FORECAST VALID 10/0600Z 35.4N 17.1W
MAX WIND 65 KT...GUSTS 80 KT.
64 KT... 15NE 15SE 15SW 15NW.
50 KT... 30NE 30SE 30SW 30NW.
34 KT... 70NE 70SE 70SW 70NW.

FORECAST VALID 10/1800Z 37.6N 14.5W
MAX WIND 60 KT...GUSTS 75 KT.
50 KT... 40NE 40SE 30SW 20NW.
34 KT... 80NE 80SE 60SW 40NW.

FORECAST VALID 11/0600Z 40.5N 11.0W...EXTRATROPICAL
MAX WIND 55 KT...GUSTS 65 KT.
50 KT... 40NE 40SE 15SW 0NW.
34 KT... 90NE 90SE 30SW 0NW.

FORECAST VALID 11/1800Z...ABSORBED BY FRONT

REQUEST FOR 3 HOURLY SHIP REPORTS WITHIN 300 MILES OF 34.2N 18.6W

NEXT ADVISORY AT 10/0300Z

FORECASTER KNABB
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#8 Postby Brent » Sun Oct 09, 2005 3:49 pm

BULLETIN
HURRICANE VINCE ADVISORY NUMBER 2
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
5 PM EDT SUN OCT 09 2005

...VINCE BECOMES A HURRICANE WHILE PASSING NORTHWEST OF THE MADEIRA
ISLANDS...
...MAINLY A HAZARD FOR MARINE INTERESTS IN THE FAR EASTERN
ATLANTIC...

AT 5 PM EDT...2100Z...THE EYE OF HURRICANE VINCE WAS LOCATED NEAR
LATITUDE 34.2 NORTH... LONGITUDE 18.6 WEST OR ABOUT 535 MILES...
865 KM... EAST-SOUTHEAST OF THE AZORES. THIS POSITION IS ALSO
ABOUT 125 MILES... 200 KM... NORTHWEST OF THE MADEIRA ISLANDS.

VINCE IS MOVING TOWARD THE NORTHEAST NEAR 6 MPH... 9 KM/HR. A
CONTINUED NORTHEASTWARD MOTION AND A GRADUAL INCREASE IN FORWARD
SPEED ARE EXPECTED DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 75 MPH...120 KM/HR...WITH HIGHER
GUSTS. LITTLE CHANGE IN STRENGTH IS FORECAST TONIGHT... BUT VINCE
IS FORECAST TO GRADUALLY WEAKEN ON MONDAY.

HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 15 MILES... 30 KM...
FROM THE CENTER... AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP
TO 80 MILES... 130 KM.

ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 987 MB...29.15 INCHES.

REPEATING THE 5 PM EDT POSITION...34.2 N... 18.6 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...NORTHEAST NEAR 6 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED
WINDS... 75 MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 987 MB.

THE NEXT ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER AT
11 PM EDT.

FORECASTER KNABB
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#9 Postby Coredesat » Sun Oct 09, 2005 3:55 pm

I'm speechless. :eek:
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#10 Postby wxwatcher91 » Sun Oct 09, 2005 3:58 pm

Hurricane Vince Discussion Number 2


Statement as of 5:00 PM EDT on October 09, 2005



if it looks like a hurricane... it probably is... despite its
environment and unusual location. Most available data suggests
Vince has been strengthening today. In fact... the CIRA intensity
estimate based on the earlier AMSU overpass near 07z was 50 kt and
995 mb... so Vince was probably even a little stronger this morning
than indicated in the previous advisory. More recently... metsat-8
imagery reveals that the earlier ragged eye feature with about
20 N mi diameter has contracted to 15 N mi as a Bona fide eye. Some
anticyclonic outflow aloft is now discernible around the deep
convection... although the convective tops remain a bit warmer than
in most hurricanes. Subjective and objective Dvorak T numbers range
from 3.5 to 4.5... with the higher end of this range based on an
eye pattern. These estimates provide the basis for the advisory
intensity of 65 kt. It is not clear if the surface winds are as
strong as the satellite signature would normally suggest...
especially since the convection might lack some vigor over the
23-24c SSTs... but we have no data to confirm or deny the Dvorak
estimates.
Vince is still moving northeastward but not very fast... about
045/5... so it could maintain hurricane intensity for several hours
while its oceanic and atmospheric environment changes little. Vince
is then forecast to weaken gradually as it moves over even cooler
waters and northwesterly shear ramps up. A cold front is several
hundred N mi northwest of Vince... and as the front continues its
eastward March across the northern Atlantic... it should pull Vince
northeastward at a gradually increasing forward speed. Most of the
dynamical models agree with this scenario and suggest that Vince
will be absorbed by the front in about 36 hours... but it could
take a little longer for the small circulation of Vince to
completely lose its indentity.

Forecaster Knabb


forecast positions and Max winds

initial 09/2100z 34.2n 18.6w 65 kt
12hr VT 10/0600z 35.4n 17.1w 65 kt
24hr VT 10/1800z 37.6n 14.5w 60 kt
36hr VT 11/0600z 40.5n 11.0w 55 kt...extratropical
48hr VT 11/1800z...absorbed by front


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#11 Postby Buck » Sun Oct 09, 2005 3:58 pm

Insane! I wonder what Portuguese media is saying about Vince!
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#12 Postby krysof » Sun Oct 09, 2005 3:58 pm

OMG! That's what happens if there is no or little shear near it, and if the SST's were warmer, then Bam.
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#13 Postby cycloneye » Sun Oct 09, 2005 4:04 pm

WTNT43 KNHC 092055
TCDAT3
HURRICANE VINCE DISCUSSION NUMBER 2
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
5 PM EDT SUN OCT 09 2005

IF IT LOOKS LIKE A HURRICANE... IT PROBABLY IS... DESPITE ITS
ENVIRONMENT AND UNUSUAL LOCATION. MOST AVAILABLE DATA SUGGESTS
VINCE HAS BEEN STRENGTHENING TODAY. IN FACT... THE CIRA INTENSITY
ESTIMATE BASED ON THE EARLIER AMSU OVERPASS NEAR 07Z WAS 50 KT AND
995 MB... SO VINCE WAS PROBABLY EVEN A LITTLE STRONGER THIS MORNING
THAN INDICATED IN THE PREVIOUS ADVISORY. MORE RECENTLY... METSAT-8
IMAGERY REVEALS THAT THE EARLIER RAGGED EYE FEATURE WITH ABOUT
20 N MI DIAMETER HAS CONTRACTED TO 15 N MI AS A BONA FIDE EYE. SOME
ANTICYCLONIC OUTFLOW ALOFT IS NOW DISCERNIBLE AROUND THE DEEP
CONVECTION... ALTHOUGH THE CONVECTIVE TOPS REMAIN A BIT WARMER THAN
IN MOST HURRICANES. SUBJECTIVE AND OBJECTIVE DVORAK T NUMBERS RANGE
FROM 3.5 TO 4.5... WITH THE HIGHER END OF THIS RANGE BASED ON AN
EYE PATTERN. THESE ESTIMATES PROVIDE THE BASIS FOR THE ADVISORY
INTENSITY OF 65 KT. IT IS NOT CLEAR IF THE SURFACE WINDS ARE AS
STRONG AS THE SATELLITE SIGNATURE WOULD NORMALLY SUGGEST...
ESPECIALLY SINCE THE CONVECTION MIGHT LACK SOME VIGOR OVER THE
23-24C SSTS... BUT WE HAVE NO DATA TO CONFIRM OR DENY THE DVORAK
ESTIMATES.

VINCE IS STILL MOVING NORTHEASTWARD BUT NOT VERY FAST... ABOUT
045/5... SO IT COULD MAINTAIN HURRICANE INTENSITY FOR SEVERAL HOURS
WHILE ITS OCEANIC AND ATMOSPHERIC ENVIRONMENT CHANGES LITTLE. VINCE
IS THEN FORECAST TO WEAKEN GRADUALLY AS IT MOVES OVER EVEN COOLER
WATERS AND NORTHWESTERLY SHEAR RAMPS UP. A COLD FRONT IS SEVERAL
HUNDRED N MI NORTHWEST OF VINCE... AND AS THE FRONT CONTINUES ITS
EASTWARD MARCH ACROSS THE NORTHERN ATLANTIC... IT SHOULD PULL VINCE
NORTHEASTWARD AT A GRADUALLY INCREASING FORWARD SPEED. MOST OF THE
DYNAMICAL MODELS AGREE WITH THIS SCENARIO AND SUGGEST THAT VINCE
WILL BE ABSORBED BY THE FRONT IN ABOUT 36 HOURS... BUT IT COULD
TAKE A LITTLE LONGER FOR THE SMALL CIRCULATION OF VINCE TO
COMPLETELY LOSE ITS INDENTITY.

FORECASTER KNABB


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INITIAL 09/2100Z 34.2N 18.6W 65 KT
12HR VT 10/0600Z 35.4N 17.1W 65 KT
24HR VT 10/1800Z 37.6N 14.5W 60 KT
36HR VT 11/0600Z 40.5N 11.0W 55 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
48HR VT 11/1800Z...ABSORBED BY FRONT

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#14 Postby WindRunner » Sun Oct 09, 2005 4:24 pm

:uarrow: That's one of the top 5 discussions of the year IMHO.

IF IT LOOKS LIKE A HURRICANE... IT PROBABLY IS...

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#15 Postby bombarderoazul » Sun Oct 09, 2005 7:33 pm

Is this hurricane considered a cape verde storm?
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#16 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sun Oct 09, 2005 7:35 pm

Azores or Europe storm.
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#17 Postby Brent » Sun Oct 09, 2005 7:46 pm

bombarderoazul wrote:Is this hurricane considered a cape verde storm?


No... too far north. Not sure what it would be considered. Nothing's ever formed out there. :lol:
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#18 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sun Oct 09, 2005 7:54 pm

Just think if this thing went eastward into that Channel...Then into the Mediterranean sea. Would the nhc keep making Advisories?
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#19 Postby senorpepr » Sun Oct 09, 2005 7:55 pm

Lets keep this thread limited to advisories only. You can post comments in the other thread...
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#20 Postby Swimdude » Sun Oct 09, 2005 8:08 pm

WindRunner wrote::uarrow: That's one of the top 5 discussions of the year IMHO.

IF IT LOOKS LIKE A HURRICANE... IT PROBABLY IS...

:eek:


Exactly what I was thinking when I read that too. I thought that was hilarious... I think that's mostly a play on the fact that it probably should've been named last night, as all of us were talking about here. =D
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