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#3601 Postby chakalakasp » Fri Sep 03, 2004 11:32 am

TLHR wrote:
BigEyedFish wrote:I can see it now...the experts at the NHC have large SE coast map on the wall and they are each given 3 darts...landfall will be...huh..here!!!


Actually, they have a "wheel of fortune" with every coastal town from Miami to Wilmington on it.

They spin it every 3 hours...

:lol:


Yeah, and every time they spin it, there's always some guy yelling Charleston! Charleston! Baby needs a new pair of shoes!
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#3602 Postby kevin » Fri Sep 03, 2004 11:35 am

That was at 10 O CLOCK
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#3603 Postby Brent » Fri Sep 03, 2004 11:40 am

That was before the 11am advisory.
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#3604 Postby BayouVenteux » Fri Sep 03, 2004 11:41 am

To paraphrase Mark Twain The rumors of her demise have been greatly exaggerated.
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Andrew '92, Katrina '05, Gustav '08, Isaac '12, Ida '21...and countless other lesser landfalling storms whose names have been eclipsed by "The Big Ones".

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#3605 Postby wlfpack81 » Fri Sep 03, 2004 11:41 am

If Frances can get his/her act together then some intensification is likely as the storm is now movoing around 8-10mph and the gulf stream on average is about 50 miles wide, down near FL it pretty much bumps up right against the coast. So we're talking about 5-6hrs of being over the GS not to mention the warm waters around the N-ern Bahamas as well.
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#3606 Postby spaceisland » Fri Sep 03, 2004 11:42 am

Old data. Frances has regrouped significantly since then.
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The METS who cried wolf....

#3607 Postby FloridaDiver » Fri Sep 03, 2004 11:43 am

BigEyedFish wrote:Amazing how strong and dangerous Frances was and now only to be a shell of her former storm...as this thing falls apart the Weather experts look like they cried wolf and unnecessary panic


A very accurate statement, since the Floyd Flop in 99 many residents have lost confidence with the NHC and local TV weather heads. It’s amazing how much the local news in South Florida is hyping this storm to almost a fever pitch even though Dade County is out of the “zone” and the cane is loosing strength according to the last advisory. I’m afraid hurricane prediction credibility will take another major hit if Frances makes landfall as a Cat 1 or worse is a non Florida event and actually goes North ala Floyd.
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#3608 Postby sitcommom » Fri Sep 03, 2004 11:45 am

I also heard that gas was low because some business owners (ie. gas stations) closed their business to prepare for the hurricane (business and residental)
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Re: New Recon 120mph

#3609 Postby jlauderdal » Fri Sep 03, 2004 11:45 am

Wallcloud wrote:Pressure the same, winds up. Fix to Fix WWNW

http://weather.net-waves.com/td06.php


let this be a lessen to some of our newbies or otherwise unexperienced people on the board that wrote it off earlier today. there is a tremendous amount of energy not only in the cane itself but in the waters ahead.
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Frances #19..slight shift right and steady intensity

#3610 Postby ncweatherwizard » Fri Sep 03, 2004 12:03 pm

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#3611 Postby Lebowsky » Fri Sep 03, 2004 12:15 pm

Thank you for the update.
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Accuweather Noon Discussion

#3612 Postby charleston_hugo_veteran » Fri Sep 03, 2004 12:19 pm

Today's Discussion
POSTED: September 3, 2004 11:44 a.m.


Hurricane Frances, as of 11 A.M. EDT, is centered at 25.5 north and 76.7 west, 225 miles east-southeast of West Palm Beach, Florida. Frances is moving toward the west-northwest at 9 mph. Maximum sustained winds are 115 mph. This makes Frances a category 3 hurricane. Winds gusts to 115 miles per hour have been reported in the Abacos. Eleuthera reported sustained winds of near 100 mph this morning as the eye passed over. The central pressure within the hurricane is 957 millibars (28.26 inches). A hurricane warning remains in effect for the central and northwestern Bahamas. A hurricane warning also remains in effect for Florida's east coast, from Florida City northward to Flagler Beach, including Lake Okeechobee. A tropical storm warning and a hurricane watch are in effect for the middle and upper Florida Keys, from south of Florida City, to the Seven Mile Bridge, including Florida Bay. And, a hurricane watch is now in effect from north of Flagler Beach, to Fernandina Beach.

Note that Frances has changed in intensity since yesterday, weakening to a category 3 hurricane; but that is still a major hurricane. Also note that the forward speed has slowed. We expect landfall on the Space Coast of Florida (Brevard County), Sunday morning. The strength of the guiding ridge, or high to the north will again be key; there is some room for a turn that would have the hurricane parallel the coast, even head toward the Carolinas. A stronger high to the north would take Frances across the peninsula, toward southwestern Georgia. Frances will likely undergo fluctuations up to the time of landfall; re-strengthening is not out of the question, particularly as it encounters the Gulf Stream waters. However, we do not expect a hurricane of the intensity of Charley upon landfall; a strong category 2 or a category 3 is the most likely intensity.

The slow movement of this hurricane means torrential, flooding rains, over a longer time period; first in its path is Florida, then farther inland, depending upon its ultimate track.

As for conditions at the point of and just north of landfall, we expect sustained winds near 100-mph, gusts to 130 mph or higher, a storm surge of 9-12 feet and 10-20 inches of rainfall in the path of Frances. Tornadoes will become a concern, as well, in some of the outer bands and in the east quadrant of the storm once it does get inland.

As of 11 AM EDT, Storm Ivan was located near 9.6 north and 32.9 west or about 745 miles southwest of the Cape Verde Islands. Maximum sustained winds are near 45 mph and the storm is moving west near 18 mph. Current forecast tracks by model output show this system tracking nearly due west for the next several days then turning northwest. Some longer range model output is suggesting this system will move into Hispaniola late next week then into the Bahamas next weekend. Until this system develops further, this is mostly speculation. But it is possible another tropical cyclone could threaten the southeast U.S. in about 10 days.
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#3613 Postby LowMug » Fri Sep 03, 2004 12:20 pm

Lebowsky wrote:Thank you for the update.


What update...these updates...especially shifting right are both annoying and dangerous to all of out here...they are misleading and based on nothing but a lack of knowledge and experience...

Enthusiasm and interest is great...posting false and misleading info is not
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#3614 Postby charleston_hugo_veteran » Fri Sep 03, 2004 12:21 pm

Are you a meteorologist?? Who are you to say?? Let people speak there mind! You surely speak yours!
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#3615 Postby c5Camille » Fri Sep 03, 2004 12:21 pm

shift left....
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#3616 Postby LowMug » Fri Sep 03, 2004 12:24 pm

charleston_hugo_veteran wrote:Are you a meteorologist?? Who are you to say?? Let people speak there mind! You surely speak yours!


No I am not...that is why I do not post forecasts...I have no basis to formulate a forecast that I would feel others could use for making decisions...

I do speak my mind...all day long...say it how I see it
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#3617 Postby ncweatherwizard » Fri Sep 03, 2004 12:24 pm

LowMug wrote:
Lebowsky wrote:Thank you for the update.


What update...these updates...especially shifting right are both annoying and dangerous to all of out here...they are misleading and based on nothing but a lack of knowledge and experience...

Enthusiasm and interest is great...posting false and misleading info is not


I shifted right like 30 miles...at 36 hours out.
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#3618 Postby Downdraft » Fri Sep 03, 2004 12:25 pm

There is a disclaimer that clearly states always view offical products of the NHC. He has his right to post his forecast and his opinion. Kindly respect that since you seem to feel you have just as much right to be critical.
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#3619 Postby mb229 » Fri Sep 03, 2004 12:27 pm

I appreciate your posts. Thanks.

Sometimes you just wish you had a magical delete key. :grr:
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#3620 Postby c5Camille » Fri Sep 03, 2004 12:27 pm

shift left...
disclaimer... always view official products of the NHC
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