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#3681 Postby charleston_hugo_veteran » Wed Sep 08, 2004 12:14 pm

USCG_Hurricane_Watcher wrote:Thanks for the info. Sorry to hear about the three...I'm so detached from the "local happenings" since I've been xferred to MD...I remember walking downstairs two weeks ago, turning on FOX news and hearing Mayor Riley discussing weather (Gaston) and knew this wasn't good...

Hang in there...SC's been pretty lucky so far...

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Your welcome! :wink:
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#3682 Postby Terry » Wed Sep 08, 2004 12:36 pm

WOW - let me know if you need a cook or gopher for the next one.

Looking forward to the radar view and add'l info. Thanks for sharing with us!
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#3683 Postby rjp » Wed Sep 08, 2004 12:41 pm

Supposedly a tornado briefly touched down near my house close to the northwoods mall area! Wack. Good thing I was at work. 8-)
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#3684 Postby Novacane » Wed Sep 08, 2004 12:42 pm

Wow, fascinating post! You're livin' my fantasy, man!
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#3685 Postby MBryant » Wed Sep 08, 2004 12:48 pm

Does the slow movement of Frances lend itself to more and/or better data for analysis?
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#3686 Postby j » Wed Sep 08, 2004 1:07 pm

Most of them were due east of me (Spartanburg County) and to the south. I was surrounded!!!
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#3687 Postby RevDodd » Wed Sep 08, 2004 1:27 pm

Yup, and we'd thank you to stop sharing them with folks in North Carolina. Been two spotted in our neck of the woods today.
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#3688 Postby gurutc » Wed Sep 08, 2004 1:41 pm

The local news last night here in Cola, SC was like watching storm stories. There was footage of 3 separate twisters including a huge waterspout striking Hilton Head that had multiple funnels revolving around eachother.
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#3689 Postby gurutc » Wed Sep 08, 2004 1:41 pm

The local news last night here in Cola, SC was like watching storm stories. There was footage of 3 separate twisters including a huge waterspout striking Hilton Head that had multiple funnels revolving around eachother.
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Flood pictures from Frances's visit to Western NC

#3690 Postby wsquared77 » Wed Sep 08, 2004 5:09 pm

The Asheville Citizen Times has some a mazing pictures of the floods that are happening in that part of NC

http://www.citizentimes.com

While we're watching and waiting for Ivan down here in Miami, my family is getting washed out from Frances. I just talked to my dad and he said they have lost water and are supposed to not have it back for a day or more.
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#3691 Postby Dan » Wed Sep 08, 2004 5:51 pm

here's the correct link to the Asheville Citizen-Times

http://www.citizen-times.com

Asheville is really hurting right now. The water treatment plant which serves the entire city is under water, so basically the city of Asheville and surrounding neighborhoods have no water as we speak.
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92 Tornadoes Total from Frances so far...

#3692 Postby al79philly » Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:02 pm

Just heard that on TWC....92 - that is pretty amazing....

For the pros, why does Frances continue to generate so many tornadoes after having weakened to a TD? Sorry - Im a newbie...
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#3693 Postby PurdueWx80 » Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:05 pm

There is still a really strong wind field just off the surface from the SE. There is tremendous low-level directional shear (change in wind with height). What allows for so many tornadoes is the very high moisture content in the lower levels of the atmosphere - that way the updraft starts very low to the ground so the storm bases are very low. W/ a low storm base and rotation inolved it really doesn't take much to spin these up. I heard earlier that this is almost a record for a tropical system. I believe Beulah had close to 96 so we may yet beat that.
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#3694 Postby al79philly » Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:06 pm

Thanks for the reply.... They showed the Beulah numbers, but I forget the number - I think it was in the 110s somewhere...
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#3695 Postby weathermom » Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:21 pm

How far north should she continue to produce tornadoes? I guess I am asking if I should be concerned here. Or is my only concern the river?
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#3696 Postby al79philly » Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:24 pm

Im in SE PA and have similar concerns.... FYI - I read this in the NYC AFD

HOWEVER...WE HAVE SOME SEVERE WEATHER POTENTIAL THURSDAY. AS THE
REMNANTS OF FRANCES MOVE NNEWD THROUGH PA...VERY JUICY AIR WILL
CONTINUE TO FLOW NWD THROUGH THE WARM SECTOR. THINKING THAT
DEWPOINTS WILL TOUCH 73-76F IN MOST PLACES. WARM SECTORS AROUND
THESE PARTS AREN'T USUALLY ACCOMPANIED BY MUCH VERTICAL WIND SHEAR.
HOWEVER...ON THURSDAY...THE REMNANTS OF FRANCES WILL SUPPLY SOME FOR
US. 0-1KM SHEAR VALUES WILL LIKELY BE ON THE ORDER OF 20-30 KT AS
LLJ REALLY NEVER LEAVES. THE ONLY LIMITING FACTOR FOR SEVERE WEATHER
WILL BE INSTABILITY...WITH WEAK LAPSE RATES IN PLACE. HOWEVER...ANY
BIT OF SUN WILL BOOST TEMPS UP INTO THE 80S GIVEN VERY WARM COLUMN.
IF WE CAN REALIZE 500-1000 J/KG OF MLCAPE AT SOME POINT
THURSDAY...TORNADOES WILL BE POSSIBLE GIVEN DISCRETE CELLS GIVEN THE
STRONG LL SHEAR AND LOW LCL HEIGHTS. JUST LOOK AT THE HISTORY WITH
FRANCES. THE SPC HAS BEEN ISSUING TOR BOXES FOR 100 STRAIGHT HOURS
WITH THIS SYSTEM. AND...IF WE SEE INSTAB DVLP THURS...THEN WE VERY
WELL COULD BE PART OF THE SHOW. TIMING IS ALL DAY...NOT JUST THE
AFTERNOON AS SHEAR WILL BE STRONGEST IN THE MORNING.


http://www.srh.noaa.gov/data/OKX/AFDOKX
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#3697 Postby dhweather » Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:25 pm

Amazing number of tornadoes! Anything significant? f3 or higher??
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#3698 Postby weathermom » Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:35 pm

thanks for the reply al79philly, though I was hoping someone would tell me I was nuts to be concerned!
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Bahamian Relief Fund from Frances

#3699 Postby Terry » Wed Sep 08, 2004 11:01 pm

Bahamian Red Cross:
http://www.ifrc.org/publicat/partner/bsprofil.asp

On my return from Abaco, I'll post other relief efforts or needs. There are often dogs ("potcakes" - which make wonderfu, loyal pets) needing homes and books, computers for schools, etc. Have not yet heard of such needs yet.
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Frances rescue efforts a big joke

#3700 Postby Hateful » Thu Sep 09, 2004 2:07 pm

:grr: Frances rescue efforts are a joke.God alone knows where FEMA is.I have power but no telephone.Way to go Bellsouth.
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