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Re: ATL: SAM - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#421 Postby Stormybajan » Fri Sep 24, 2021 12:24 am

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Seems over the last hour or 2 Sam has a pulse down for sure, but based on this the eyewall may be complete and its starting to gain more latitude imo
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Re: ATL: SAM - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#422 Postby grapealcoholic » Fri Sep 24, 2021 12:25 am

HWRF thinks it's a 979 hurricane

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Re: ATL: SAM - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#423 Postby Sciencerocks » Fri Sep 24, 2021 12:49 am

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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#424 Postby Subtrop » Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:59 am

AL, 18, 2021092406, , BEST, 0, 114N, 416W, 65, 993, HU, 34, NEQ, 50, 40, 30, 40, 1011, 120, 15, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, SAM, D, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, genesis-num, 038,
AL, 18, 2021092406, , BEST, 0, 114N, 416W, 65, 993, HU, 50, NEQ, 30, 20, 15, 20, 1011, 120, 15, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, SAM, D, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, genesis-num, 038,
AL, 18, 2021092406, , BEST, 0, 114N, 416W, 65, 993, HU, 64, NEQ, 15, 0, 0, 0, 1011, 120, 15, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, SAM, D, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, genesis-num, 038,
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Re: ATL: SAM - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#425 Postby galaxy401 » Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:13 am

Went from a TD to a hurricane in just 24 hours. Since Sam is moving relatively slowly, we got a lot of time to watch its movements. It still won't reach 60W by Tuesday. Really curious on how strong he will be.
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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#426 Postby kevin » Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:13 am

Subtrop wrote:
AL, 18, 2021092406, , BEST, 0, 114N, 416W, 65, 993, HU, 34, NEQ, 50, 40, 30, 40, 1011, 120, 15, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, SAM, D, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, genesis-num, 038,
AL, 18, 2021092406, , BEST, 0, 114N, 416W, 65, 993, HU, 50, NEQ, 30, 20, 15, 20, 1011, 120, 15, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, SAM, D, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, genesis-num, 038,
AL, 18, 2021092406, , BEST, 0, 114N, 416W, 65, 993, HU, 64, NEQ, 15, 0, 0, 0, 1011, 120, 15, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, SAM, D, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, genesis-num, 038,


Looks like we have hurricane Sam. If the NHC follows this data then the first hurricane advisory will be only 18 hours after Sam became a tropical storm.
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Re: ATL: SAM - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#427 Postby Sciencerocks » Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:34 am

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Re: ATL: SAM - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#428 Postby Extratropical94 » Fri Sep 24, 2021 3:34 am

7th hurricane of the season, now forecast to reach cat 4

INIT 24/0900Z 11.5N 42.2W 65 KT 75 MPH
12H 24/1800Z 11.7N 44.0W 80 KT 90 MPH
24H 25/0600Z 12.1N 45.9W 95 KT 110 MPH
36H 25/1800Z 12.5N 47.4W 105 KT 120 MPH
48H 26/0600Z 12.9N 48.7W 115 KT 130 MPH
60H 26/1800Z 13.4N 50.0W 115 KT 130 MPH
72H 27/0600Z 14.1N 51.1W 110 KT 125 MPH
96H 28/0600Z 15.9N 53.8W 110 KT 125 MPH
120H 29/0600Z 17.8N 56.6W 110 KT 125 MPH
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Re: ATL: SAM - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#429 Postby kevin » Fri Sep 24, 2021 3:38 am

Extratropical94 wrote:7th hurricane of the season, now forecast to reach cat 4

INIT 24/0900Z 11.5N 42.2W 65 KT 75 MPH
12H 24/1800Z 11.7N 44.0W 80 KT 90 MPH
24H 25/0600Z 12.1N 45.9W 95 KT 110 MPH
36H 25/1800Z 12.5N 47.4W 105 KT 120 MPH
48H 26/0600Z 12.9N 48.7W 115 KT 130 MPH
60H 26/1800Z 13.4N 50.0W 115 KT 130 MPH
72H 27/0600Z 14.1N 51.1W 110 KT 125 MPH
96H 28/0600Z 15.9N 53.8W 110 KT 125 MPH
120H 29/0600Z 17.8N 56.6W 110 KT 125 MPH


Since it's very likely that Sam will become a MH, that means we would be at 18/7/4 with October still to go.
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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#430 Postby cycloneye » Fri Sep 24, 2021 3:42 am

galaxy401 wrote:Went from a TD to a hurricane in just 24 hours. Since Sam is moving relatively slowly, we got a lot of time to watch its movements. It still won't reach 60W by Tuesday. Really curious on how strong he will be.

And recon will be flying starting on Monday morning and those missions will be very important especially the gulfstream ones.
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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#431 Postby Iceresistance » Fri Sep 24, 2021 3:55 am

That Monstrous Northern Band is limiting Sam somewhat, it's only a matter of time before this dies out & there will be virtually nothing that will stop him from RI . . .

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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#432 Postby Ubuntwo » Fri Sep 24, 2021 4:01 am

When are we thinking the eye starts clearing out? Modeling has it popping out late this morning, but we have seen systems with tight cores take a little longer than usual to do so.
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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#433 Postby aspen » Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:06 am

Not a good structure this morning. Like Larry, Sam is dealing with a massive outer band that needs to dissipate.
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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#434 Postby kevin » Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:07 am

Looks like the outer band is slowly losing strength (peaked about 2 - 3 hours ago), but it'll still take a little while before it has dissipated.
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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#435 Postby kevin » Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:58 am

Note that both HWRF and HMON also keep Sam at the same pressure/intensity for the next 8 - 10 hours or so until it manages to become more symmetrical and manages to get rid of its northern band. Only afterwards (21z/00z) they start with RI.
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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#436 Postby Blown Away » Fri Sep 24, 2021 6:10 am

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Sam a little ragged IMO on the IR this morning, but likely healthy at the low levels.
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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#438 Postby cheezyWXguy » Fri Sep 24, 2021 7:12 am

Interesting structural changes going on. Although the cdo as warmed, it looks like it’s expanding a little bit. And now that the northern band is quickly weakening I don’t think it’ll be long before colder cloud tops reappear in the cdo
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Re: ATL: SAM - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#439 Postby HurricaneEnzo » Fri Sep 24, 2021 7:16 am

kevin wrote:
Extratropical94 wrote:7th hurricane of the season, now forecast to reach cat 4

INIT 24/0900Z 11.5N 42.2W 65 KT 75 MPH
12H 24/1800Z 11.7N 44.0W 80 KT 90 MPH
24H 25/0600Z 12.1N 45.9W 95 KT 110 MPH
36H 25/1800Z 12.5N 47.4W 105 KT 120 MPH
48H 26/0600Z 12.9N 48.7W 115 KT 130 MPH
60H 26/1800Z 13.4N 50.0W 115 KT 130 MPH
72H 27/0600Z 14.1N 51.1W 110 KT 125 MPH
96H 28/0600Z 15.9N 53.8W 110 KT 125 MPH
120H 29/0600Z 17.8N 56.6W 110 KT 125 MPH


Since it's very likely that Sam will become a MH, that means we would be at 18/7/4 with October still to go.


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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#440 Postby cycloneye » Fri Sep 24, 2021 7:22 am

A. 18L (SAM)

B. 24/1130Z

C. 11.4N

D. 42.9W

E. THREE/GOES-E

F. T4.5/4.5

G. IR/EIR/VIS

H. REMARKS...SYSTEM IS EMBEDDED IN MG RESULTING IN A DT OF 4.0. THE
SYSTEM HAS A DISTINCT BANDING FEATURE SEEN ON VISIBLE SATELLITE IMAGERY
THAT IS TIGHTLY WRAPPING INTO THE CORE. TOWERING THUNDERSTORMS CONTINUE
TO FORM AROUND SYSTEM LLCC ON VISIBLE SATELLITE IMAGERY INDICATING A
DEEPENING SYSTEM. THE 24 HR TREND IS DEVELOPING. MET IS 4.0 AND PT IS
4.5. FT IS BASED ON PT DUE TO THE UNCERTAINTY OF THE EXACT LLCC POSITION.

I. ADDL POSITIONS

NIL


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