MED: 01M/ROLF - Tropical Storm

Moderator: S2k Moderators

Message
Author
User avatar
DanieleItalyRm
Category 1
Category 1
Posts: 487
Age: 38
Joined: Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:52 am
Location: Rome - Italy - Mediterranean sea

#21 Postby DanieleItalyRm » Mon Nov 07, 2011 11:40 am

Image

Uploaded with ImageShack.us

Image
Last edited by DanieleItalyRm on Mon Nov 07, 2011 12:58 pm, edited 1 time in total.
0 likes   

User avatar
Hylian Auree
Tropical Storm
Tropical Storm
Posts: 150
Age: 32
Joined: Thu Dec 02, 2010 7:01 pm
Location: Willemstad, Curaçao
Contact:

#22 Postby Hylian Auree » Mon Nov 07, 2011 11:47 am

This thing should be very interesting to study. It's obviously acquiring more and more trop characteristics; some sort of classification would be well warranted by now.
0 likes   

westwind
Tropical Storm
Tropical Storm
Posts: 155
Joined: Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:29 pm
Location: worthing UK!!

#23 Postby westwind » Mon Nov 07, 2011 12:23 pm

This is what ESTOFEX have to say about it.

Latest satellite data reveals a gradually better organized depression in the western Mediterranean. The center is at least partially covered by a central dense overcast feature with strong pulsating cells especially along the northern/eastern part. It still ingests a somewhat more stable/dry air mass from the south with a diminishing trend, so conditions look promising for further organization. Latest ASCAT data indicates a broad and asymmetric wind field with maxima still displaced from the center, which is typical for an organizing subtropical cyclone (in the range of 30-35 kt). Phase diagrams also support that this depression continued to structure its shallow warm core during the past 12 h and indicates further organization for the upcoming 24 h. Using the Hebert Poteat technique and keeping in mind the better organized structre of the main band and deeper/somewhat more persisting DMC along the center, a classification of ST 2.5 would be a reasonable, although probably quite an optimistic guess, given still transientness of the convection ( ST 2.5 represents an intensity of 35-40 kt). It has to be stressed out that no real time surface data is present to support that intensification rating.

Overall model guidance agrees in pushing that feature northwards towards S-France but with a significant cone of uncertainty. Also intensity guidance diverges with some models indicating a gradual weakening trend, whereas WRF-NMM f.ex. has some further strengthening until landfall. Current thinking is that some further organization seems likely, before geopotential heights gradually increase on Tuesday. In any case, there seems to be no direct affect to S-France until 06 Z, despite increasing easterly winds along the coast and stronger downpours in onshore moving bands.
0 likes   
The following post is NOT an official forecast and should not be used as such. It is just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. It is NOT endorsed by any professional institution including storm2k.org For Official Information please refer to the NHC and NWS products.

User avatar
Extratropical94
Professional-Met
Professional-Met
Posts: 3538
Age: 29
Joined: Wed Oct 20, 2010 6:36 am
Location: Hamburg, Germany
Contact:

#24 Postby Extratropical94 » Mon Nov 07, 2011 12:43 pm

Cool animated wind forecast, showing a tightening system becoming smaller and more compact.
http://www.meteo-allerta.it/en/weather/ ... italy.html
0 likes   
54° 11' 59'' N, 9° 9' 20'' E
Boomer Sooner!
Go Broncos! Go Cards! Go Niners!
- Daniel

RL3AO
Moderator-Pro Met
Moderator-Pro Met
Posts: 16308
Joined: Thu Jun 14, 2007 10:03 pm
Location: NC

#25 Postby RL3AO » Mon Nov 07, 2011 12:58 pm

Is now 99L


Seriously.
0 likes   

User avatar
cycloneye
Admin
Admin
Posts: 142556
Age: 68
Joined: Thu Oct 10, 2002 10:54 am
Location: San Juan, Puerto Rico

Re:

#26 Postby cycloneye » Mon Nov 07, 2011 12:59 pm

RL3AO wrote:Is now 99L


Seriously.


Is for real!

Image
0 likes   
Visit the Caribbean-Central America Weather Thread where you can find at first post web cams,radars
and observations from Caribbean basin members Click Here

RL3AO
Moderator-Pro Met
Moderator-Pro Met
Posts: 16308
Joined: Thu Jun 14, 2007 10:03 pm
Location: NC

#27 Postby RL3AO » Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:01 pm

However its not been tagged on ATCF so the NHC had nothing to do with it.
0 likes   

User avatar
Extratropical94
Professional-Met
Professional-Met
Posts: 3538
Age: 29
Joined: Wed Oct 20, 2010 6:36 am
Location: Hamburg, Germany
Contact:

#28 Postby Extratropical94 » Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:07 pm

Still, this is a step in the right direction and if the NHC decides to jump on board they would certainly have to expand the name lists.
0 likes   
54° 11' 59'' N, 9° 9' 20'' E
Boomer Sooner!
Go Broncos! Go Cards! Go Niners!
- Daniel

HenkL
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 2401
Joined: Fri Sep 10, 2004 5:33 pm
Location: Groningen, The Netherlands
Contact:

#29 Postby HenkL » Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:11 pm

Winds were below storm strength (35 kt) in the western Mediterranean, both yesterday and today. Estimated pressure of the low has gone up from 1000 to 1005 hPa.
Analyses maps from UKMO, DWD, KNMI all show a baroclinic system.
Yesterday around 15-18Z the center of the system was slowly moving southward over Menorca (LEHM), with wind shifting from WSW to NE. No change in temperatures was measured.

Looking like a (sub)tropical system doesn't mean it has to be one. Occasionally we have had lows with an eye feature over the Netherlands (as well as polar lows of course).
0 likes   

User avatar
Extratropical94
Professional-Met
Professional-Met
Posts: 3538
Age: 29
Joined: Wed Oct 20, 2010 6:36 am
Location: Hamburg, Germany
Contact:

#30 Postby Extratropical94 » Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:17 pm

Is this the first "L" tagged invest in the Med Sea ever? Just being curious :)
0 likes   
54° 11' 59'' N, 9° 9' 20'' E
Boomer Sooner!
Go Broncos! Go Cards! Go Niners!
- Daniel

User avatar
Crostorm
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 2060
Age: 49
Joined: Mon Dec 25, 2006 3:51 pm
Location: Croatia-Europe
Contact:

Re: 99L INVEST Atlan...um, I mean Mediterranean Sea:

#31 Postby Crostorm » Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:32 pm

Image
0 likes   

User avatar
DanieleItalyRm
Category 1
Category 1
Posts: 487
Age: 38
Joined: Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:52 am
Location: Rome - Italy - Mediterranean sea

#32 Postby DanieleItalyRm » Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:34 pm

I am very sorry that the analysis begins only now that the system is weakening; Previously was much more 'intense convection and in the top cloudsImage
Last edited by DanieleItalyRm on Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:42 pm, edited 1 time in total.
0 likes   

User avatar
Crostorm
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 2060
Age: 49
Joined: Mon Dec 25, 2006 3:51 pm
Location: Croatia-Europe
Contact:

Re: 99L INVEST Atlan...um, I mean Mediterranean Sea:

#33 Postby Crostorm » Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:41 pm

07/1800 UTC 41.1N 5.3E T2.5/2.5 01M -- Mediterranean Sea
0 likes   

User avatar
Crostorm
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 2060
Age: 49
Joined: Mon Dec 25, 2006 3:51 pm
Location: Croatia-Europe
Contact:

#34 Postby Crostorm » Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:42 pm

TXMM21 KNES 071819
TCSMED

A. 01M (NONAME)

B. 07/1800Z

C. 41.1N

D. 5.3E

E. THREE/MET-9

F. T2.5/2.5/D1.5/24HRS

G. IR/EIR/SWIR

H. REMARKS...DT=2.5 BASED ON .5 BANDING ON LOG10
SPIRAL. PT=2.5. MET=2.0. FT IS BASED ON DT. DEEP CONVECTION HAS PERSISTED
LONG ENOUGH AROUND THE LOW LEVEL CENTER FOR A TROPICAL CLASSIFICATION.

I. ADDL POSITIONS

NIL


...SCHWARTZ
0 likes   

User avatar
Crostorm
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 2060
Age: 49
Joined: Mon Dec 25, 2006 3:51 pm
Location: Croatia-Europe
Contact:

#35 Postby Crostorm » Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:43 pm

Thats first time ever 01M(No Name)?
0 likes   

User avatar
Hurricanehink
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 2030
Joined: Sun Nov 16, 2003 2:05 pm
Location: New Jersey

Re: 99L INVEST Atlan...um, I mean Mediterranean Sea:

#36 Postby Hurricanehink » Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:47 pm

Definitely. This is uncharted territory.
0 likes   

User avatar
Extratropical94
Professional-Met
Professional-Met
Posts: 3538
Age: 29
Joined: Wed Oct 20, 2010 6:36 am
Location: Hamburg, Germany
Contact:

#37 Postby Extratropical94 » Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:50 pm

This is a historical day in tropical meteorology and I am glad to be part of the people witnessing this moment live in a weather forum.

No, seriously, this has to be the first time they use the "M". I'm wondering if they start numbering the invest separately next year (90M, 91M, ...)
0 likes   
54° 11' 59'' N, 9° 9' 20'' E
Boomer Sooner!
Go Broncos! Go Cards! Go Niners!
- Daniel

User avatar
Hylian Auree
Tropical Storm
Tropical Storm
Posts: 150
Age: 32
Joined: Thu Dec 02, 2010 7:01 pm
Location: Willemstad, Curaçao
Contact:

Re:

#38 Postby Hylian Auree » Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:51 pm

Extratropical94 wrote:This is a historical day in tropical meteorology and I am glad to be part of the people witnessing this moment live in a weather forum.

100% agreed. Truly awesome!
0 likes   

User avatar
Hurricanehink
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 2030
Joined: Sun Nov 16, 2003 2:05 pm
Location: New Jersey

Re: 99L INVEST Atlan...um, I mean Mediterranean Sea:

#39 Postby Hurricanehink » Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:51 pm

Just an FYI. http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/2011/bulletins/archive.html - they've been doing tests all year, it seems, so they could be ready for this very event.
0 likes   

User avatar
DanieleItalyRm
Category 1
Category 1
Posts: 487
Age: 38
Joined: Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:52 am
Location: Rome - Italy - Mediterranean sea

Re: 99L INVEST Atlan...um, I mean Mediterranean Sea:

#40 Postby DanieleItalyRm » Mon Nov 07, 2011 2:03 pm

This being the first system after officially, BUT not be the first tropical system in the Mediterranean Sea.
I am very sorry that the analysis begins only now that the system is weakening; Previously was much more 'intense convection in the center and in the top clouds

Image

Uploaded with ImageShack.us
0 likes   


Return to “2011”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests