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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#101 Postby Hurricaneman » Wed Aug 16, 2017 1:05 pm

The time to really watch this will be from late Sunday and after as that is when models intensify this system
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#102 Postby RL3AO » Wed Aug 16, 2017 1:08 pm

Anything approaching the Western Caribbean, GOM, or western Atlantic needs to be watched closely. The eastern half of the basin is not looking the most favorable for intensification, but the western half sure is.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#103 Postby cycloneye » Wed Aug 16, 2017 1:39 pm

18z Best Track:

AL, 92, 2017081618, , BEST, 0, 143N, 368W, 25, 1009, LO
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#104 Postby SoupBone » Wed Aug 16, 2017 1:46 pm

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This is most concerning for the Gulf Coast. I hope this doesn't become a trend.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#105 Postby lsuhurricane » Wed Aug 16, 2017 1:48 pm

Would have to agree. The Florida Strait appears to be the best guess for direction. Gulf looks decently favorable for some intensification should it make it there intact
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#106 Postby Gustywind » Wed Aug 16, 2017 1:49 pm

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AXNT20 KNHC 161807
TWDAT

Tropical Weather Discussion
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
207 PM EDT Wed Aug 16 2017

...SPECIAL FEATURES...


The 1010 mb low embedded on a tropical wave centered at 14N35W
shows signs of gradual development. There is a medium chance of
tropical cyclone formation within the next 48 hours.
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ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#107 Postby drezee » Wed Aug 16, 2017 2:11 pm

All,
It us important to realize what the Euro is showing. It is show an entity all the way though. Intensity shown doesn't really matter at this time. This is a real system that could be mush stronger than indicated. The alarm is it exists and travels toward the stares....watch it closely and take this time to create a hurricane plan.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#108 Postby northjaxpro » Wed Aug 16, 2017 2:11 pm

:uarrow: Best Track has 92L down to 1009 mb.

Looking at the latest models, it is beginning to trend more that 92L will just miss the Greater Antilles to the north. It will be a close call though. Will watch it closely of course.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#109 Postby Frank2 » Wed Aug 16, 2017 2:21 pm

The current WV shows a very unfavorable upper air pattern. The TWO's have been unreliable recently, one indicating development and the next hedging that an invest might or might not, so I'd not get too anxious about anything out there right now.

The large ULL also appears to be a TUTT feature and that usually is not a sign for development...

http://www.goes.noaa.gov/HURRLOOPS/huwvloop.html

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#110 Postby gatorcane » Wed Aug 16, 2017 2:29 pm

Frank2 wrote:The current WV shows a very unfavorable upper air pattern. The TWO's have been unreliable recently, one indicating development and the next hedging that an invest might or might not, so I'd not get too anxious about anything out there right now.

The large ULL also appears to be a TUTT feature and that usually is not a sign for development...

http://www.goes.noaa.gov/HURRLOOPS/huwvloop.html

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Frank that TUTT feature is not the one that models think will make conditions hostile. That feature should move west and weaken over the next 5 days and be located over the Gulf by the time 92L reaches the area. It is the upper-level low currently north of 92L that models think will drop SW and create a shear zone near the Lesser Antilles. I am skeptical this ULL will completely destroy 92l to be honest. Perhaps 91L developing will be what induces the shear over 92L.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#111 Postby ronjon » Wed Aug 16, 2017 2:55 pm

i'm expecting 92L to become a tropical cyclone prior to it reaching the LAs but then weakening thereafter until the Bahamas - at least that's what most models are showing now.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#112 Postby Blown Away » Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:11 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#113 Postby Hurricaneman » Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:14 pm

Looks pretty decent for a developing system
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#114 Postby jlauderdal » Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:20 pm

RL3AO wrote:Anything approaching the Western Caribbean, GOM, or western Atlantic needs to be watched closely. The eastern half of the basin is not looking the most favorable for intensification, but the western half sure is.
i would expect the models to start really blowing this thing up in the gulf/straits..looks to stay away from land unlike what we have seen in the past few years
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#115 Postby SoupBone » Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:22 pm

Based upon current conditions, would it developing sooner have much of an effect on turning poleward sooner? I know that's typically the case with these systems, but if a high plants itself over Florida, is it going to shunt around it like some models are showing?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#116 Postby Blown Away » Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:28 pm

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Gives and idea where the Pro's think our systems will go... For now 92L is no more than a TW heading for Fl Keys in 6 days...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Recon

#117 Postby OuterBanker » Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:29 pm

Just a question. Does NOAA fly as a courtesy to the islands or do the islands pay for the service. Or is there US interest in the Lesser Antilles.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#118 Postby gatorcane » Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:36 pm

I am guessing 91l becomes Harvey and this one becomes Irma. Irma that name sounds creepy! :eek:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#119 Postby Bocadude85 » Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:41 pm

I would be very surprised if 92L never amounts to more then a tropical wave, I'm thinking tropical storm threat to the Bahamas/Florida in about a week.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#120 Postby Hurricaneman » Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:43 pm

Bocadude85 wrote:I would be very surprised if 92L never amounts to more then a tropical wave, I'm thinking tropical storm threat to the Bahamas/Florida in about a week.

Maybe hurricane if conditions are decent
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