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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Recon

#621 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 19, 2017 12:33 pm

They keep postponing the mission,now is for Monday if needed.

POSSIBLE LOW LEVEL INVEST MISSION FOR 21/1800Z INTO SYSTEM
NORTH OF THE TURKS AND CAICOS ISLANDS NEAR 24.5N 72.0W.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#622 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 19, 2017 12:47 pm

2 PM TWO down to 10%-30%.

A trough of low pressure located about 250 miles north-northeast of
the northern Leeward Islands continues to produce disorganized
showers and thunderstorms. Environmental conditions are expected to
be unfavorable for development during the next couple of days while
the system system moves west-northwestward at about 20 mph.
Conditions may become a little more conducive early next week while
the system is near the Bahamas.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...10 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...30 percent.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#623 Postby SouthFLTropics » Sat Aug 19, 2017 12:47 pm

Looking at the water vapor loop it looks like the ULL is trying to merge either right in front of or right on top of 92L. Best analogy for this...imagine your 92L cruising down the interstate making good time and some jerk comes from the on ramp and merges right into you or right in front of you and hits the breaks. It just messes up your whole trip.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#624 Postby SFLcane » Sat Aug 19, 2017 12:55 pm

Conditions may become a little more conducive early next week while
the system is near the Bahamas. :roll:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#625 Postby SFLcane » Sat Aug 19, 2017 1:22 pm

Lol ghost town here...this thing is still pulsating so we shall see as NHC mentions when it nears bahamas.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#626 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Sat Aug 19, 2017 1:32 pm

It is ULL city out there right now. Invest 92L will struggle until it reaches the Bahamas where it may have a brief chance to spin up into a TD, though that seems unlikely.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#627 Postby TheStormExpert » Sat Aug 19, 2017 1:34 pm

SouthFLTropics wrote:Looking at the water vapor loop it looks like the ULL is trying to merge either right in front of or right on top of 92L. Best analogy for this...imagine your 92L cruising down the interstate making good time and some jerk comes from the on ramp and merges right into you or right in front of you and hits the breaks. It just messes up your whole trip.

Are you saying there's still hope for this little guy!?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#628 Postby SouthFLTropics » Sat Aug 19, 2017 2:05 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:
SouthFLTropics wrote:Looking at the water vapor loop it looks like the ULL is trying to merge either right in front of or right on top of 92L. Best analogy for this...imagine your 92L cruising down the interstate making good time and some jerk comes from the on ramp and merges right into you or right in front of you and hits the breaks. It just messes up your whole trip.

Are you saying there's still hope for this little guy!?


No, I'm saying that the ULL pulled onto the highway and cut 92L off and screwed him all up. Unless the ULL runs off the road my gut tells me that 92L may have seen its best days already. 92L had the potential to be a Corvette but instead probably will end up just a beat up old Volkswagon.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#629 Postby gatorcane » Sat Aug 19, 2017 2:17 pm

850mb vorticity has actually gotten stronger today some:

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#630 Postby jason1912 » Sat Aug 19, 2017 2:20 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#631 Postby N2FSU » Sat Aug 19, 2017 2:23 pm

"Conditions may become a little more conducive early next week while the system is near the Bahamas."

So you're saying there's a chance!
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#632 Postby AutoPenalti » Sat Aug 19, 2017 2:37 pm

Love the ELI5 analogies. Keep them coming! :lol:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#633 Postby CourierPR » Sat Aug 19, 2017 3:14 pm

To my untrained eyes, 92L looks better on the rainbow satellite loop.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#634 Postby floridasun78 » Sat Aug 19, 2017 3:21 pm

feeling it will be strong tropical wave by bahamas could be ts as move out to sea or hurr
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#635 Postby AtlanticWind » Sat Aug 19, 2017 3:24 pm

There seems to be a weak low level circulation in front near 62, but I would look back near 60 and 20n
for possible development. Seems to look a little better this afternoon.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#636 Postby rolltide » Sat Aug 19, 2017 3:27 pm

Appears to me the UL low east of Florida is catching up with the UL low in the Gulf. What happens if they meet. Will they do a fujiwhara around each other or do they merge?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#637 Postby HURAKAN » Sat Aug 19, 2017 3:29 pm

it looks like the Shoemaker–Levy comet
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#638 Postby AtlanticWind » Sat Aug 19, 2017 3:32 pm

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/carb/h5-loop-wv.html

Water Vapor loop, looks better
Maybe an outside chance
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Re: RE: Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#639 Postby jlauderdal » Sat Aug 19, 2017 3:44 pm

AtlanticWind wrote:http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/carb/h5-loop-wv.html

Water Vapor loop, looks better
Maybe an outside chance
The ull seems to be moving on it's way

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#640 Postby SootyTern » Sat Aug 19, 2017 3:49 pm

chaser1 wrote::uarrow: Okay, THAT was wordy?! :double: I suppose the short answer should have been: "if the cut-off low distances itself from 92L, there's a better chance of it developing" LOL


I liked the wordy answer so thanks! It is so fascinating to me about how these weather features all interact.
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