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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2421 Postby SEASON_CANCELED » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:40 pm

why are so many of these cheap flat roofs in Puerto rico. Those went away in the late 50's for pitched systems.

There is going to be alot of missing roofs.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2422 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:40 pm

SEASON_CANCELED wrote:why are so many of these cheap flat roofs in Puerto rico. There is going to be alot of missing roofs.


Incomes in Puerto Rico are much lower than on the US mainland for the most part.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2423 Postby SEASON_CANCELED » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:41 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:
SEASON_CANCELED wrote:why are so many of these cheap flat roofs in Puerto rico. There is going to be alot of missing roofs.


Incomes in Puerto Rico are much lower than on the US mainland for the most part.



You are correct. But that is hands down the worst roof you can have for this
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2424 Postby jlauderdal » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:42 pm

RL3AO wrote:NHC archive so far. Excellent track. By Monday morning, the forecast called for a cat 4 landfall in Puerto Rico.

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if you are 100 miles either side of an nhc 5 day track you better watch out, yes the cone is 5 years of stats but the last couple of years they are sharpshooters even at 5 days
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2425 Postby OuterBanker » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:42 pm

Starting to be just a bit concerned. Yesterday I told the wife that virtually all the models had Maria out to sea. Got up this morning and everything has changed. I know the Navgem is to be used for entertainment purposes only. The 00z Euro is another story, and now the GFS is also near NC. Both the Euro and the GFS were both safely out to sea yesterday. I don’t know what to think now.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2426 Postby BobHarlem » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:43 pm

ABC News was reporting 100% power outage in PR. Did the power plants get knocked offline?
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#2427 Postby shawn67 » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:43 pm

Fishing wrote:Does anyone have any information on Barranquitas Puerto Rico. HC-02 box 6623. Asking for a friend who’s very concerned.


And it begins...Im so sorry. Hopefully your friend's person affected will have access to some form of communications framework soon to let them know they are ok. I think the "Check-in" feature of facebook is one of its most important.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2428 Postby SEASON_CANCELED » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:44 pm

BobHarlem wrote:ABC News was reporting 100% power outage in PR. Did the power plants get knocked offline?



They have major power issues without a storm, rolling blackouts are common 6 months of the year. The grid has not been updated since the 70's. I saw an expert on Bay news 9 said they did not even make parts for it anymore and that the power companies were reduced to making local counterfeits.

It will take months to probably get it back online
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2429 Postby PandaCitrus » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:45 pm

The entire island of Puerto Rico has now lost electricity.

 https://twitter.com/heavymetaltcup/status/910559616509112324


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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2430 Postby SEASON_CANCELED » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:48 pm

florida is about to have 3.5 million residents i think :(

that island had enough, they were bankruptcy to begin with
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2431 Postby Texas Snowman » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:48 pm

@ESPNMcGee -- Just received email from friend in San Juan, Puerto Rico. "Roads underwater and no roofs on anything in every direction as far as I can see"
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2432 Postby BYG Jacob » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:48 pm

OuterBanker wrote:Starting to be just a bit concerned. Yesterday I told the wife that virtually all the models had Maria out to sea. Got up this morning and everything has changed. I know the Navgem is to be used for entertainment purposes only. The 00z Euro is another story, and now the GFS is also near NC. Both the Euro and the GFS were both safely out to sea yesterday. I don’t know what to think now.

I think we're gonna see models go Irma 2.0 and just shift west until landfall on CONUS is inevitable.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2433 Postby Fountainguy97 » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:50 pm

BYG Jacob wrote:
OuterBanker wrote:Starting to be just a bit concerned. Yesterday I told the wife that virtually all the models had Maria out to sea. Got up this morning and everything has changed. I know the Navgem is to be used for entertainment purposes only. The 00z Euro is another story, and now the GFS is also near NC. Both the Euro and the GFS were both safely out to sea yesterday. I don’t know what to think now.

I think we're gonna see models go Irma 2.0 and just shift west until landfall on CONUS is inevitable.



Very early to say yet but key will and always will be Jose. Models have trended weaker with Jose over the last 2; hrs. If they trend ANY weaker... US is in the game for real
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2434 Postby PandaCitrus » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:50 pm

Strong southerly downdrafts winds from the mountains visible on goes 16.

 https://twitter.com/JohnMoralesNBC6/status/910559539069558784


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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2435 Postby sweetpea » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:51 pm

SEASON_CANCELED wrote:
CrazyC83 wrote:
SEASON_CANCELED wrote:why are so many of these cheap flat roofs in Puerto rico. There is going to be alot of missing roofs.


Incomes in Puerto Rico are much lower than on the US mainland for the most part.



You are correct. But that is hands down the worst roof you can have for this


There are ALOT of houses like that. My dad's is that way, it is the way the houses were built for many years. My grandfather built the house my dad is in 60 years ago. At least 2 or 3 times a year my dad has to go up and put more tar down because the sun melts it. The house is solid, it has poured concrete walls, but the roofs are another story.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2436 Postby JBCycloneStan » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:52 pm

Looks like some cooler cloud tops and the larger eye trying to clear out. Thankfully, there's no more islands in its path.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2437 Postby Hurrilurker » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:52 pm

BobHarlem wrote:ABC News was reporting 100% power outage in PR. Did the power plants get knocked offline?

Most likely. They reported millions without power from Irma, a storm which didn't even directly hit PR. So this is not too surprising. Especially with the track Maria took going right across the island diagonally, leaving none of it untouched.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2438 Postby 72Packer » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:59 pm

sweetpea wrote:
SEASON_CANCELED wrote:
CrazyC83 wrote:
Incomes in Puerto Rico are much lower than on the US mainland for the most part.



You are correct. But that is hands down the worst roof you can have for this


There are ALOT of houses like that. My dad's is that way it is the way the houses were built for many years. My grandfather built the house my dad is in 60 years ago. At least 2 or 3 times a year my dad has to go up and put more tar down because the sun melts it. The house is solid, it has poured concrete walls, but the roofs are another story.


I spent time in PR near Dorado and Vega Alta. Some homes had a flat reinforced concrete roof with tar paper and gravel on top. I was told people used concrete bcause of hurricanes.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2439 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:00 pm

Hopefully the opportunity is used to completely rebuild the power infrastructure in Puerto Rico from the ground up.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2440 Postby wxman57 » Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:06 pm

Recon indicates Maria is down to a Cat 2 now. Maybe 90-95 kts. Pressure up to 960mb. Mountains tend to have a big impact on a hurricane.
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