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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Models

#221 Postby Dylan » Tue May 22, 2018 8:53 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Models

#222 Postby caneman » Tue May 22, 2018 9:02 pm

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Aric Dunn wrote:
SFLcane wrote:18z GFS a bit stronger through SFL...


well if that is what you call that... it is pretty much not helpful except telling us it thinks 90l will be sheared lol


Fun fact: Not one single EPS ensemble member sends 90L into the Florida Peninsula. Not one.


Where a center goes at this point is irrelevant in my mind. The rain totals since the 13th are already way up there
I saw one the main roads I travel flooded within an hour or two of extreme tropical downpour. Many rivers are already high. Reminds me exactly of Debby
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#223 Postby floridasun78 » Tue May 22, 2018 9:26 pm

look all rain tooo east of low maybe forming if that track nnw or ne that pull that all rain over fl
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Models

#224 Postby N2FSU » Tue May 22, 2018 9:44 pm



So you’re saying there’s... :D
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#225 Postby floridasun78 » Tue May 22, 2018 9:59 pm

starring look south fl will have highest amount rain and rest of state what their forecasting with 90l
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#226 Postby tailgater » Tue May 22, 2018 10:23 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:MId and upper levels are becoming less dry around the system. Could see more convection build overnight.

yep, and the southern GOM showing up pretty on Mimic TPW
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Models

#227 Postby NDG » Tue May 22, 2018 10:28 pm

I'm starting to really doubt the GFS with its crazy solutions and start leaning towards the Euro's less crazy solutions :lol:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#228 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue May 22, 2018 10:29 pm

tailgater wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:MId and upper levels are becoming less dry around the system. Could see more convection build overnight.

yep, and the southern GOM showing up pretty on Mimic TPW
http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/m ... t72hrs.gif


just in case anyone missed it. there is a new and improved TPW> >> http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/m ... anim=html5

you can check multiple layers. its is very helpful :)
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Models

#229 Postby CyclonicFury » Tue May 22, 2018 10:33 pm

00z ICON shows something very strange. It develops 90L into a TS, but it turns to the south over the Gulf of Mexico and begins to weaken.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Models

#230 Postby stormlover2013 » Tue May 22, 2018 10:38 pm

High pressure builds...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Models

#231 Postby MississippiWx » Tue May 22, 2018 10:38 pm

CyclonicFury wrote:00z ICON shows something very strange. It develops 90L into a TS, but it turns to the south over the Gulf of Mexico and begins to weaken.


There isn’t much of an escape route. Ridge to the west, north, and east as a trough lifts out to the north. It’s a possibility.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Models

#232 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue May 22, 2018 10:39 pm

CyclonicFury wrote:00z ICON shows something very strange. It develops 90L into a TS, but it turns to the south over the Gulf of Mexico and begins to weaken.


that is the second run in a row for ICON. the EURO also have the steering collapse and then ridging building. though the euro is faster so it happens over land. ICON I am not sure about the intensity though.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Models

#233 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue May 22, 2018 10:43 pm

00z GFS is pretty much identical out to 36 hours compared to 18z
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Models

#234 Postby Dylan » Tue May 22, 2018 10:53 pm

NDG wrote:I'm starting to really doubt the GFS with its crazy solutions and start leaning towards the Euro's less crazy solutions :lol:


Agreed. The GFS wants to develop satellite vorticities out of thin air around the main gyre. Even if it did, it would more than likely pin-wheel around the main low in a similar fashion to Cindy last year. The EPS ensembles back the operational ECMWF’s solution of a north gulf coast landfall, and and it’s well known the EPS are much better equipped to handle tropical cyclones compared to the GEFS, which is also west of its operational/deterministic companion.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Models

#235 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue May 22, 2018 10:55 pm

GFS at 78 hours .. already splitting off into two vorticities.. blah... next.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Models

#236 Postby Dylan » Tue May 22, 2018 11:00 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:GFS at 78 hours .. already splitting off into two vorticities.. blah... next.


It’s going to be a loooonnnnnnnngggggggg hurricane season if the MU continues to perform this way!
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Models

#237 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue May 22, 2018 11:01 pm

Dylan wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:GFS at 78 hours .. already splitting off into two vorticities.. blah... next.


It’s going to be a loooonnnnnnnngggggggg hurricane season if the MU continues to perform this way!


yes yes indeed.. and I am OCD and cant go to sleep until all the outputs are finished .. lol
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#238 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue May 22, 2018 11:05 pm

Convection finally getting going in association with the broad circ. environment has moistened... of course shear is high just to the north so convection is going to be tough to stay attached but pulses of deep convection can help get a well-defined circ in place for the models to latch onto.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Models

#239 Postby Dylan » Tue May 22, 2018 11:10 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
Dylan wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:GFS at 78 hours .. already splitting off into two vorticities.. blah... next.


It’s going to be a loooonnnnnnnngggggggg hurricane season if the MU continues to perform this way!


yes yes indeed.. and I am OCD and cant go to sleep until all the outputs are finished .. lol


I’m the same way, and it’s pathetic because I intercepted a Category 3 and 4 Hurricane last year, and this will be a complete shoe shoe compared to that. But I’m really invested into this system because I’m supposed to move from New Orleans to Georgia on Saturday for my new job, and this will probably impact it. So typical.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Models

#240 Postby CyclonicFury » Tue May 22, 2018 11:11 pm

00z UKMET text product:
GLOBAL MODEL DATA TIME 00UTC 23.05.2018



NEW TROPICAL STORM FORECAST TO DEVELOP AFTER 114 HOURS

FORECAST POSITION AT T+114 : 24.5N 84.1W



VERIFYING TIME POSITION STRENGTH TENDENCY

-------------- -------- -------- --------

00UTC 28.05.2018 26.0N 84.0W WEAK WEAKENING RAPIDLY

12UTC 28.05.2018 27.8N 85.1W MODERATE LITTLE CHANGE

00UTC 29.05.2018 28.3N 85.8W MODERATE LITTLE CHANGE
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