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Re: ATL: Remnants of BERYL

#781 Postby Steve H. » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:00 pm

Uhhhh, Chris already formed east of North Carolina. If it was given another name it would be Debby I believe. But they may keep it Beryl if it redeveloped. Maybe.
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Re: ATL: Remnants of BERYL

#782 Postby northjaxpro » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:06 pm

I think they will keep it named Beryl as her remnants are still being tracked for regeneration.

BTW, the system is beginning to look better organized and it appears that a LLC is reforming in the SE Bahamas to my tired eyes. We will find out shortly as Recon reports in.
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Re: ATL: Remnants of BERYL

#783 Postby EquusStorm » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:07 pm

Pretty close call on protocol when little of the surface circulation remains, but I'd look to the regeneration of Lee last year as a previous precedent to see how much midlevel spin remains with this to develop a new surface low. If something has maintained itself in the midlevels, it might be Beryl again. With it being the same wave, it would be odd for this to become Debby, but I'm pretty sure such has happened before.
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...but still, though, a lot more interesting than the 2013 season.

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Re: ATL: Remnants of BERYL

#784 Postby chaser1 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:56 pm

Steve H. wrote:Uhhhh, Chris already formed east of North Carolina. If it was given another name it would be Debby I believe. But they may keep it Beryl if it redeveloped. Maybe.


Correct lol; meant "Debby"
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Re: ATL: Remnants of BERYL

#785 Postby chaser1 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:01 pm

Definitely appears to be some mid level vort at 21.8 & 71.2; I doubt it's worked its way to the surface quite yet
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Re: ATL: Remnants of BERYL

#786 Postby cycloneye » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:05 pm

chaser1 wrote:Definitely appears to be some mid level vort at 21.8 & 71.2; I doubt it's worked its way to the surface quite yet


Per 18z Best Track:

AL, 02, 2018071018, , BEST, 0, 201N, 726W, 30, 1013, WV
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Re: ATL: Remnants of BERYL

#787 Postby EquusStorm » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:16 pm

Unless the Best Track is following the wave axis, whatever it's tracking seems to be highly damaged by passage over Hispaniola. I'm far more interested in that midlevel spin east of the Bahamas, though no doubt something will try to redevelop south of there at some point, near where BT being plotted, unless something else takes over.
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...but still, though, a lot more interesting than the 2013 season.

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Re: ATL: Remnants of BERYL

#788 Postby GCANE » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:56 pm

A couple stations in Haiti are reporting west winds.
Looking at VIS satellite, west winds look pretty strong just above the surface.
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Re: ATL: Remnants of BERYL

#789 Postby GCANE » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:57 pm

Mid levels being moistened nicely from afternoon popups over east Cuba
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Re: ATL: Remnants of BERYL

#790 Postby NDG » Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:40 pm

A nice mid level vorticity has developed north of Hispaniola and it looks like an anticyclone is already starting to develop over it.

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Re: ATL: Remnants of BERYL

#791 Postby seahawkjd » Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:46 pm

If something forms out of this, what direction is it going to head? Will it get pulled out like Chris?
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Re: ATL: Remnants of BERYL

#792 Postby EquusStorm » Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:50 pm

And the interesting thing is, I don't know how directly connected this midlevel spin is to what once was Beryl; its a part of the same wave yeah, but is this developing area of interest still related enough to the circulation of Beryl that they'd rename it Beryl? I'd assume so, but this is going to be fascinating to watch.
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Re: ATL: Remnants of BERYL

#793 Postby cycloneye » Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:41 pm

The remnants of Beryl, a tropical wave moving northwestward across
the southeastern Bahamas, are producing gusty winds and locally
heavy rain from Hispaniola and southeastern Cuba northeastward
across the southeastern Bahamas and the Turks and Caicos into the
adjacent Atlantic waters. Little development is expected tonight
due to unfavorable upper-level winds. However, the disturbance is
expected to turn northward over the western Atlantic on Wednesday
where upper-level winds could become more conducive for the
regeneration of a tropical cyclone later this week. An Air Force
Reserve reconnaissance aircraft is scheduled to investigate the
disturbance Wednesday afternoon, if necessary. Regardless of
development, locally heavy rains and gusty winds are likely to
continue from eastern Cuba and Hispaniola northward across the
eastern Bahamas for the next day or two. Additional information on
this system can be found in High Seas Forecasts issued by the
National Weather Service.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...20 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...medium...50 percent.
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Re: ATL: Remnants of BERYL

#794 Postby LarryWx » Tue Jul 10, 2018 7:17 pm

seahawkjd wrote:If something forms out of this, what direction is it going to head? Will it get pulled out like Chris?


There is very strong model consensus that any reborn Beryl TC will not even come close to the US SE coast. There's no reason right now to think otherwise with no high to its north to impart enough of a westerly component of motion to threaten the SE. Even the NC OB look pretty safe now.
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Re: ATL: Remnants of BERYL

#795 Postby northjaxpro » Tue Jul 10, 2018 7:46 pm

:uarrow: Yes. Even if re-development occurs, this system should pass well offshore the U.S. Eastern Coast seaboard..It is just following Chris in the weakness left in his wake.
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Re: ATL: Remnants of BERYL

#796 Postby GCANE » Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:53 pm

500mb vort looks solid.
A common way for the vort to work its way to the surface is by momentum transfer thru a mesovort like a vortical hot tower.

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Re: ATL: Remnants of BERYL

#797 Postby lrak » Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:34 pm

GCANE wrote:500mb vort looks solid.
A common way for the vort to work its way to the surface is by momentum transfer thru a mesovort like a vortical hot tower.

http://i68.tinypic.com/swxnjm.gif


Not much on the details of ever aspect of a cyclone forming but the IR satellite looks interesting as well as the water vapor loop.

By the the way Chris looks really cool tonight in all the satellite loops.

When adjusting a used Samsung 55 inch 4k monitor to 1400x1000 it looks cool not bragging got a good deal on a 4k TV. With some soft music it'll put us old dudes to sleep. 8-)

The power of Chris and the possible cyclogenesis of the remnants of Beryl is hard to stop watching and go to sleep.
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Re: ATL: Remnants of BERYL

#798 Postby chaser1 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:32 pm

Take a look at this water vapor satellite loop of the Western Atlantic - https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/sat/sat ... uct=wv-mid . Notice the fairly strong upper level shear impacting the remnants of Beryl, right up to the last couple of frames. Anyone notice the shear suddenly beginning to relax and suddenly go from westerly to a turn to more out of the south? Now take a notice at the pinching cut-off low over the Florida Straits. It's beginning to cut off and retrograde to the west. I believe that we'll see this remnant mid level feature of Beryl begin to pop overnight and continue into tomorrow. I think that upper level conditions are rapidly becoming more conducive with already existent difluent north and east outflow channels while the recent westerly shear is also become more relaxed in part due to the retreating upper level low to it's west. It would not shock me to see a depression reform out of this mid level feature in a 36-48 hr. time frame
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Models

#799 Postby GCANE » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:09 am

GFS initializes it in 48 hrs

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Re: ATL: Remnants of BERYL

#800 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:29 am

Convection has increased with many lighting strikes.

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