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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#4541 Postby MrStormX » Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:51 am

Looks like recon is suspicious of that reading, they made a 360 turn and are returning to the same area where the Cat 2 SFMR winds were found.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#4542 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:52 am

Hurricane Florence Tropical Cyclone Update
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL062018
300 AM EDT Fri Sep 14 2018

...300 AM POSITION UPDATE...
...FLORENCE POUNDING THE NORTH CAROLINA COAST...

A NOAA observing site at Cape Lookout, North Carolina, recently
reported a sustained wind of 75 mph (120 km/h) and a gust to 90 mph
(145 km/h). A Weatherflow station at Fort Macon, North Carolina,
recently reported a sustained wind of 73 mph (117 km/h) and a wind
gust of 99 mph (159 km/h).

Storm surge values continue to rise in areas of onshore flow on
the North Carolina coast and over inland waterways. A USGS gauge in
Emerald Isle, North Carolina, recently recorded 6.3 feet of
inundation.

A NOAA buoy at Onslow Bay recently reported a minimum pressure of
956 mb (28.23 mb). A NOAA buoy off of Wilmington, North Carolina,
recently reported a sustained wind of 57 mph (91 km/h) and a gust
of 95 mph (153 km/h).

SUMMARY OF 300 AM EDT...0700 UTC...INFORMATION
----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...34.2N 77.2W
ABOUT 35 MI...55 KM E OF WILMINGTON NORTH CAROLINA
ABOUT 45 MI...75 KM SW OF MOREHEAD CITY NORTH CAROLINA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...90 MPH...150 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...WNW OR 295 DEGREES AT 6 MPH...9 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...955 MB...28.20 INCHES

$$
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#4543 Postby artist » Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:54 am

They are saying that the weather is too bad to make any rescues of those 150 people.

My prayers go out to all.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#4544 Postby PavelGaborik10 » Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:54 am

Chris_in_Tampa wrote:Hurricane Florence Tropical Cyclone Update
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL062018
300 AM EDT Fri Sep 14 2018

...300 AM POSITION UPDATE...
...FLORENCE POUNDING THE NORTH CAROLINA COAST...

A NOAA observing site at Cape Lookout, North Carolina, recently
reported a sustained wind of 75 mph (120 km/h) and a gust to 90 mph
(145 km/h). A Weatherflow station at Fort Macon, North Carolina,
recently reported a sustained wind of 73 mph (117 km/h) and a wind
gust of 99 mph (159 km/h).

Storm surge values continue to rise in areas of onshore flow on
the North Carolina coast and over inland waterways. A USGS gauge in
Emerald Isle, North Carolina, recently recorded 6.3 feet of
inundation.

A NOAA buoy at Onslow Bay recently reported a minimum pressure of
956 mb (28.23 mb). A NOAA buoy off of Wilmington, North Carolina,
recently reported a sustained wind of 57 mph (91 km/h) and a gust
of 95 mph (153 km/h).

SUMMARY OF 300 AM EDT...0700 UTC...INFORMATION
----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...34.2N 77.2W
ABOUT 35 MI...55 KM E OF WILMINGTON NORTH CAROLINA
ABOUT 45 MI...75 KM SW OF MOREHEAD CITY NORTH CAROLINA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...90 MPH...150 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...WNW OR 295 DEGREES AT 6 MPH...9 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...955 MB...28.20 INCHES

$$
Forecaster Cangialosi/Manougian



Didn't recon just report 95 MPH winds? I'm confused. Perhaps they were junk.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#4545 Postby TheDreamTraveler » Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:55 am

artist wrote:Why don’t people listen?!?

NC Emergency Managem Retweeted
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Currently ~150 awaiting rescue in New Bern. We have 2 out-of-state FEMA teams here for swift water rescue. More are on the way to help us. WE ARE COMING TO GET YOU. You may need to move up to the second story, or to your attic, but WE ARE COMING TO GET YOU.
#FlorenceNC


I hate that so much. People are stupid and don't listen to evacuation orders. They're like "lol oh it won't be so bad i've been through hurricanes before". A friend's friend of mine lives right near the coast and he's not taking it seriously either. He thinks that just because he was in Sandy that he thinks he knows what a powerful hurricane is like. Despite the fact Sandy was a hybrid storm and not fully tropical. Now could you imagine if Florence had hit as a cat 4 with 140mph winds? But since its wind strength is weaker now people are like 'lol see i told you it wasnt going to be so bad'. Just because you didn't really get effected doesn't mean other areas weren't completely devastated by floods, wind and surge. Sorry for the ranting.
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#4546 Postby Condor » Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:55 am

Cat 2 ?

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#4547 Postby wayoutfront » Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:56 am

artist wrote:They are saying that the weather is too bad to make any rescues of those 150 people.

My prayers go out to all.


How crazy is that
.New Bern is prone to flooding just from heavy rains.

Swift water rescues are very dangerous ...I think they should make every one post a video of WTH they were thinking
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#4548 Postby southerngale » Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:59 am

Brandon Clement, storm chaser who is New Bern, just said that there have been rescues where they had to cut people out of attics and the wait list to get people rescued is too long and the weather is too bad, they can't get people out.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#4549 Postby TheDreamTraveler » Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:59 am

wayoutfront wrote:
artist wrote:They are saying that the weather is too bad to make any rescues of those 150 people.

My prayers go out to all.


How crazy is that
.Newbern is always prone to flooding just from heavy rains


I think it might be a lot of newer residents in the past 2 decades. The last big hurricane to go through north carolina was Isabel I believe. So it's been a good 15 years since anything like that has gone through.
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#4550 Postby Hammy » Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:01 am

PavelGaborik10 wrote:(snip)


Didn't recon just report 95 MPH winds? I'm confused. Perhaps they were junk.


Could've been too close to the update, either that or they'll wait for the actual advisory before making adjustments, if the wind data was considered valid. I think it should be though considering they found 84kt SFMR on both passes in the same place.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#4551 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:01 am

PavelGaborik10 wrote:
Chris_in_Tampa wrote:Didn't recon just report 95 MPH winds? I'm confused. Perhaps they were junk.


SFMR doesn't work over land and it doesn't do as good in shallow water.

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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#4552 Postby artist » Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:04 am

TheDreamTraveler wrote:
artist wrote:Why don’t people listen?!?

NC Emergency Managem Retweeted
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Currently ~150 awaiting rescue in New Bern. We have 2 out-of-state FEMA teams here for swift water rescue. More are on the way to help us. WE ARE COMING TO GET YOU. You may need to move up to the second story, or to your attic, but WE ARE COMING TO GET YOU.
#FlorenceNC


I hate that so much. People are stupid and don't listen to evacuation orders. They're like "lol oh it won't be so bad i've been through hurricanes before". A friend's friend of mine lives right near the coast and he's not taking it seriously either. He thinks that just because he was in Sandy that he thinks he knows what a powerful hurricane is like. Despite the fact Sandy was a hybrid storm and not fully tropical. Now could you imagine if Florence had hit as a cat 4 with 140mph winds? But since its wind strength is weaker now people are like 'lol see i told you it wasnt going to be so bad'. Just because you didn't really get effected doesn't mean other areas weren't completely devastated by floods, wind and surge. Sorry for the ranting.


I understand. Last year I lost someone I was trying to locate for a family that went out to go to the store during Harvey. It was devastating. His body was found about a week later.

Just now they said 200 have been rescued, with the other 150 stilling needing to be rescued.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#4553 Postby artist » Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:06 am

Last updated: 03:02 EDT on 09-14-2018
Tornado Warning
Issued: September 14 at 3:02AM EDT
Expiring: September 14 at 3:30AM EDT Urgency: Immediate
Status: Actual
Areas affected:Franklin; Halifax; Warren
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#4554 Postby wayoutfront » Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:07 am

TheDreamTraveler wrote:
wayoutfront wrote:
artist wrote:They are saying that the weather is too bad to make any rescues of those 150 people.

My prayers go out to all.


How crazy is that
.Newbern is always prone to flooding just from heavy rains


I think it might be a lot of newer residents in the past 2 decades. The last big hurricane to go through north carolina was Isabel I believe. So it's been a good 15 years since anything like that has gone through.


Could be ...2003 ..kinda nipped NC moving quick and smashed Va ..just hope it isnt a sign of much larger problems along the whole affected areas
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#4555 Postby wayoutfront » Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:09 am

artist wrote:
TheDreamTraveler wrote:
artist wrote:Why don’t people listen?!?

NC Emergency Managem Retweeted
City of New Bern
City of New Bern
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Currently ~150 awaiting rescue in New Bern. We have 2 out-of-state FEMA teams here for swift water rescue. More are on the way to help us. WE ARE COMING TO GET YOU. You may need to move up to the second story, or to your attic, but WE ARE COMING TO GET YOU.
#FlorenceNC


I hate that so much. People are stupid and don't listen to evacuation orders. They're like "lol oh it won't be so bad i've been through hurricanes before". A friend's friend of mine lives right near the coast and he's not taking it seriously either. He thinks that just because he was in Sandy that he thinks he knows what a powerful hurricane is like. Despite the fact Sandy was a hybrid storm and not fully tropical. Now could you imagine if Florence had hit as a cat 4 with 140mph winds? But since its wind strength is weaker now people are like 'lol see i told you it wasnt going to be so bad'. Just because you didn't really get effected doesn't mean other areas weren't completely devastated by floods, wind and surge. Sorry for the ranting.


I understand. Last year I lost someone I was trying to locate for a family that went out to go to the store. It was devastating. His body was found about a week later.

Just now they said 200 have been rescued, with the other 150 stilling needing to be rescued.


They must be able to still drive to rescue people ...
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#4556 Postby northjaxpro » Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:09 am

It is so sad that people do not heed of the warnings to get out and evacuate. I pray that God be with those 150 people who are in need of rescue at the moment.

The weather is only getting worse with time and definitely unsafe for emergency responders to get to them. :cry: :(
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#4557 Postby TheDreamTraveler » Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:12 am

wayoutfront wrote:
TheDreamTraveler wrote:
wayoutfront wrote:
How crazy is that
.Newbern is always prone to flooding just from heavy rains


I think it might be a lot of newer residents in the past 2 decades. The last big hurricane to go through north carolina was Isabel I believe. So it's been a good 15 years since anything like that has gone through.


Could be ...2003 ..kinda nipped NC moving quick and smashed Va ..just hope it isnt a sign of much larger problems along the whole affected areas


Yeah I forgot Isabel wasn't that big of a storm for NC. Floyd was the last big one so a 19 year gap pretty much. That's a long time. Matthew killed 47 people in the US...26 in NC alone. Matthew isn't comparable to this. The friend I was talking about earlier says he knows what to expect because of Matthew going through lol and its like okay
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#4558 Postby artist » Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:13 am

wayoutfront wrote:
artist wrote:
TheDreamTraveler wrote:
I hate that so much. People are stupid and don't listen to evacuation orders. They're like "lol oh it won't be so bad i've been through hurricanes before". A friend's friend of mine lives right near the coast and he's not taking it seriously either. He thinks that just because he was in Sandy that he thinks he knows what a powerful hurricane is like. Despite the fact Sandy was a hybrid storm and not fully tropical. Now could you imagine if Florence had hit as a cat 4 with 140mph winds? But since its wind strength is weaker now people are like 'lol see i told you it wasnt going to be so bad'. Just because you didn't really get effected doesn't mean other areas weren't completely devastated by floods, wind and surge. Sorry for the ranting.


I understand. Last year I lost someone I was trying to locate for a family that went out to go to the store. It was devastating. His body was found about a week later.

Just now they said 200 have been rescued, with the other 150 stilling needing to be rescued.


They must be able to still drive to rescue people ...

No, they were rescuing by boat. The other 150 have to wait until conditions improve.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Hurricane - Discussion

#4559 Postby southerngale » Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:13 am

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Northeast quad of #Florence is clearly the strongest as per aircraft data. 100 mph winds, with a large area having winds of 85-90 mph

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