ATL: THREE - Remnants - Discussion

[txwatcher91]

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Looks like a nice thunderstorm complex, no well defined LLC and winds are blowing away from the center on the east side of the storm. Pressure is high at 1016, this shouldn't even be a TD IMO. It should get absorbed into the front later today/tomorrow and get shredded in the process. It's great to get recon data but can't believe we are using it on something that is no real threat to land and will soon dissipate.

[tolakram]

I find it interesting and rather unfortunate some posters continuously undermine and diminish the decisions made by the NHC, system after system.

I understand not everyone may agree with their decisions for classifications, but there’s continual posts that act as if the NHC is off their rocker. It’s a Tropical Depression folks; it’s not pretty or glamourous.

Like I said - interesting and unfortunate. Hopefully it’s not a trend for the rest of the season.

Just to be clear, if you see a post clearly bashing the NHC or a pro met please report it. If you see a post disagreeing with the NHC or a pro-met, that's an opinion and part of the discussion.

Some posts are borderline so it's a good time to remind everyone to have a spirited discussion but please stay respectful.

Thanks.

[OuterBanker]

Could be interesting, could be a total nonevent here.
Cold front has not really progressed much since yesterday. Still hot and humid here and sun is shining.
Developing training t-storms forming on a trough just off our coast while td3 is headed north.
Will they combine and give us some much-needed rain.
Will the cold front keep everything offshore?
Stay tuned for as the storm turns.
In the meantime, I have hung the “welcome cold front” sign on the porch.

[GCANE]

Cumulus already building over FL.
More fuel tonight for this from the debris of the afternoon popups.

[tolakram]

Latest shear analysis

[tolakram]

Live visible loop

http://rammb-slider.cira.colostate.edu/?sat=goes-16&z=2&im=12&ts=1&st=0&et=0&speed=130&motion=loop&map=1&lat=0&opacity%5B0%5D=1&hidden%5B0%5D=0&pause=0&slider=-1&hide_controls=0&mouse_draw=0&follow_feature=0&follow_hide=0&s=rammb-slider&sec=mesoscale_02&p%5B0%5D=band_02&x=1191.8834838867188&y=616.8506469726562

[wxman57]

Recon is in the NW quadrant. It found SW winds just NW of the center and now SE winds a bit farther out. Generally, winds in a tropical depression/storm don't blow away from the center. Note that no matter whether it is named or not, it is not a heavy rainfall threat. It's hard to flood the ocean.

Ah, Levi agrees with me that the wind is blowing in the wrong direction:

[txwatcher91]

Recon is in the NW quadrant. It found SW winds just NW of the center and now SE winds a bit farther out. Generally, winds in a tropical depression/storm don't blow away from the center. Note that no matter whether it is named or not, it is not a heavy rainfall threat. It's hard to flood the ocean.

Yeah I think this was briefly a TD yesterday at peak but it's weakened a lot and appears to have opened up based on what recon is finding. Not sure what the surrounding pressures are as I haven't looked but 1016mb is very high.

[Evil Jeremy]

For a Tropical Depression, this 11am advisory is taking a long while...

[AnnularCane]

For a Tropical Depression, this 11am advisory is taking a long while...

Probably waiting for recon.

[psyclone]

mid 10teens pressure and a lack of windfield...if it was alive it was brief and appears to have ended. nevertheless an interesting feature to watch

[Evil Jeremy]

...DEPRESSION DISSIPATES... ...THIS IS THE LAST ADVISORY...

[wxman57]

[CyclonicFury]

Did Wxman57 take over NHC? NHC does not usually kill off systems this fast.

[Hypercane_Kyle]

Well, that didn't take long at all.

[psyclone]

One gray area with tropical systems seems to be persistence (at least wrt to convection) which this system consistently lacked. perhaps if the line was held a bit stronger in that regard it would have never been numbered.. recognizing this is stated with the benefit of hindsight and things are a bit subjective..

[wxman57]

Did Wxman57 take over NHC? NHC does not usually kill off systems this fast.

I think they killed it off very slowly. Should have been declared remnants last evening. It fell apart right after it was upgraded. Oh well, at least it wasn't upgraded.

[NDG]

It was maybe a TD from 10 AM to 6 PM yesterday. It tried to gain TD organization last night again but other forces took over it, taking its convection away from the weak LLC.

[AnnularCane]

This thread died as quickly as TD 3.

[Monsoonjr99]

What's funny is that Three's convection looks more organized now than it ever did while it had a low-level CoC.

I suppose the circulation was so weak and fragile that last night's convective lull was enough to open it all up (perhaps in coordination with the approaching front). This is about as weak, short-lived, and borderline as you can get but still have a classified TC.

I'd find it hilarious, however, if ASCAT later finds a gale-force closed LLC under this ball of convection as it heads OTS overnight; another "TS" not officially recognized similarly to 98L last September.