Hurricane NOEL : Discussions & Images

[BigA]

12Z GFS ensembles show 6 members tracking over Nantucket or Cape Cod, but otherwise a tight clustering with the mean close to the 40N/70W benchmark.

This is going to be very nasty if it follows a track very near Cape Cod. I hope people there are prepared for the powerful storm.

The high wind warning for Nantucket predicts up to 90 mph gusts.

[wxman57]

I think crownweather is alluding to the fact that we don't get as much detailed information on extratropical cyclone as we do with tropical cyclones.

My point is that the NHC exists to serve the general public, not weather nuts who like to see all the details of the track points, movement, wind radii, etc. Is telling the general public on the evening news that the wind across Cape Cod Saturday afternoon will be 40-50 mph enough? What other details do they need?

[BigA]

There should still be a place where we can post on Noel's extratropical self (maybe in the US weather forum)

[HURAKAN]

Noel's ACE is 5.2125.

2007 ACE

[AJC3]

I think crownweather is alluding to the fact that we don't get as much detailed information on extratropical cyclone as we do with tropical cyclones.

And that is a mistaken impression. Between the forecasts, discussions, warnings etc. issued by the HPC, OPC, and the local NWS forecast offices, there is more than sufficient detail in the information that is out there. You just have to hit those web sites.

[cycloneye]

Noel's ACE is 5.2125.

2007 ACE

What a jump in the ace stat for 2007 that NOEL did.Thanks Sandy for the rapid reply.

[HURAKAN]

Noel's ACE is 5.2125.

2007 ACE

What a jump in the ace stat for 2007 that NOEL did.Thanks Sandy for the rapid reply.

Luis, that's temporary since the official ACE will come with the post-season report.

[btangy]

The whole package....in which I disagree with, considering the impact this storm will have on Eastern New England and the Canadian Maritimes tomorrow and tomorrow night. Yes, this system is now extratropical....but they should still be issuing advisories/warnings/etc on it.....it would make a bigger impact on the public psyche. The NHC issues advisories on Sub-Tropical storms....why not extra-tropical systems that have a significant impact on the public.

There is a seamless transition between the NHC and OPC/HPC when this occurs. In fact, the OPC will continue to issue public advisories on this system since as you said, this is still a very significant storm. Over land, the NWS local offices will coordinate with HPC and each other to make sure the appropriate advisories and warnings are put in to place. It's perhaps one of the shining few examples of govt efficiency, IMO.

[HURAKAN]

Station 41048 - W Bermuda

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Wind Direction (WDIR):    SE ( 130 deg true )
5-day plot - Wind Speed   Wind Speed (WSPD):   40.8 kts
5-day plot - Wind Gust   Wind Gust (GST):   48.6 kts
5-day plot - Wave Height   Wave Height (WVHT):   12.1 ft
5-day plot - Dominant Wave Period   Dominant Wave Period (DPD):   9 sec
5-day plot - Average Period   Average Period (APD):   5.8 sec
5-day plot - Mean Wave Direction   Mean Wave Direction (MWD):   SE ( 126 deg true )
5-day plot - Atmospheric Pressure   Atmospheric Pressure (PRES):   29.54 in
5-day plot - Pressure Tendency   Pressure Tendency (PTDY):   -0.16 in ( Falling Rapidly )
5-day plot - Air Temperature   Air Temperature (ATMP):   77.2 °F
5-day plot - Water Temperature   Water Temperature (WTMP):   77.0 °F
5-day plot - Dew Point   Dew Point (DEWP):   73.0 °F
5-day plot - Heat Index   Heat Index (HEAT):   78.6 °F

[CrazyC83]

Where do we get OPC advisories?

[Hybridstorm_November2001]

I've used the OPC Surface Charts years now for both East Coast hurricanes and Nor’easters. They do a great job I must say. I've been archiving the charts for Noel (that and the 500mb Charts from another source) for a week now.

Link to main site:

http://www.opc.ncep.noaa.gov/

[AJC3]

Where do we get OPC advisories?

http://www.opc.ncep.noaa.gov

http://weather.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/fmtbltn ... ff.nt2.txt
http://weather.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/fmtbltn ... sf.at1.txt

Also....some graphical links to marine/offshore/high seas forecasts...

http://www.nws.noaa.gov/om/marine/zone/east/ermzn.htm
http://www.nws.noaa.gov/om/marine/zone/wrdoffmz.htm
http://www.nws.noaa.gov/om/marine/zone/hsmz.htm

[RL3AO]

I think that the ace for 2007 season went up a lot.Who have those updated stats?

ACE by storm

33.75 Dean
16.54 Felix
5.213 Noel
3.528 Karen

Before Noel the ACE by season was 43rd out of 58
After Noel the ACE by season is 39th out of 58.

[CrazyC83]

I think that the ace for 2007 season went up a lot.Who have those updated stats?

ACE by storm

33.75 Dean
16.54 Felix
5.213 Noel
3.528 Karen

Before Noel the ACE by season was 43rd out of 58
After Noel the ACE by season is 39th out of 58.

If it weren't for Dean and Felix, we'd be near record lows for ACE, despite a slightly above normal season in storm numbers (12 minus them)

[Hybridstorm_November2001]

I'm starting to follow Noel on my blog. I plan on adding lots of images, photos and videos (to my Youtube account which link I'll post to blog, tomorrow if I keep power that is) as the storm continues to progress this way:

http://hybridstorm-weatherblog.blogspot.com/

[cycloneye]

The members can continue to post in this thread to recap all about NOEL.Also,as it will affect in a big way New England and Eastern Canada,is appropiate to leave the thread open.It will be here for 48 hours or maybe more depending on what occurs this weekend,then will move to the 2007 archieves forum.So keep the thread going folks.

[PhillyWX]

Satellite Loop of Noel from Wednesday PM to Friday PM, showing extratropical transition: http://philadelphiaweather.blogspot.com ... -noel.html

Click on the link at the bottom of the page to access it. I put that together using E-Wall sat pics over the last 2 days so there was a loop 'in posterity' so to speak. Hope everyone likes it.

[emeraldislencguy]

I know Noel is now extratropical and no longer a tropical storm--but I am amazed that we spend hours talking about an invest somewhere that never amounts to anything but yet we have a storm that could affect a large area and no one seems to want to talk aboout it anymore--is there any place we can discuss Noel and find oout what is going on in the area it will have a tremendouos influence on?? Wouldlove to follow this storm in some forum or chat room. Someone help me out--

[RL3AO]

Wow. The center line has gotten a lot closer to Maine.

[PhillyWX]

I know Noel is now extratropical and no longer a tropical storm--but I am amazed that we spend hours talking about an invest somewhere that never amounts to anything but yet we have a storm that could affect a large area and no one seems to want to talk aboout it anymore--is there any place we can discuss Noel and find oout what is going on in the area it will have a tremendouos influence on?? Wouldlove to follow this storm in some forum or chat room. Someone help me out--

I think it would be good to see the discussion continue. It certainly is NOT a dead storm even though it's no longer a Hurricane by definition. The winds certainly are strong enough and will continue to be so for the next couple of days.