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Re: CPac/WPac: 06E (ex-Cosme) JTWC: POOR

#221 Postby Aslkahuna » Tue Jul 24, 2007 4:59 pm

Well Tokyo will make that decision when the time comes. Meanwhile, 1008 mb is not a very low pressure for the WPAC Tropics so I doubt that it would be a TD with that pressure.

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#222 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Jul 24, 2007 5:21 pm

24/2033 UTC 16.0N 179.8W T2.5/2.5 COSME -- Central Pacific Ocean

About to cross.
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Re: CPac/WPac: 06E (ex-Cosme) JTWC: POOR

#223 Postby Hurricanehink » Tue Jul 24, 2007 5:38 pm

It'll remain Cosme, as there is a case analogous to the renaming issue. In 1986, Tropical Storm Georgette formed in the Eastern Pacific Ocean, and lasted a few days before dissipating to the southeast of Hawaii. Its remnants continued westward, and after entering the Western Pacific it developed into a typhoon, and retained the name Georgette. Source: https://metocph.nmci.navy.mil/jtwc/atcr/1986atcr/pdf/wnp/11e10w.pdf
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#224 Postby RattleMan » Tue Jul 24, 2007 6:33 pm

THE REMNANT CIRCULATION OF TD 06E PREVIOUSLY LOCATED NEAR
15.6N 178.0W, IS NOW LOCATED NEAR 16.3N 179.3W, APPROXIMATELY 810 NM
EAST OF WAKE ISLAND. ANIMATED INFRARED SATELLITE IMAGERY DEPICTS
IMPROVED CONSOLIDATION WITH PERSISTENT DEEP CONVECTION NEAR THE
PARTIALLY EXPOSED LOW LEVEL CIRCULATION CENTER. BANDING CONVECTION
HAS CONTINUED TO ORGANIZE OVER THE PAST 06 HOURS. UPPER LEVEL
ANALYSIS CONTINUES TO INDICATE MODERATE, WESTERLY VERTICAL WIND
SHEAR AND THIS REMAINS THE PRIMARY LIMITING FACTOR. MAXIMUM SUTAINED
SURFACE WINDS ARE ESTIMATED AT 15 TO 20 KNOTS. MINIMUM SEA LEVEL
PRESSURE IS ESTIMATED TO BE NEAR 1006 MB. BASED ON THE IMPROVED
ORGANIZATION, THE POTENTIAL FOR DEVELOPMENT OF A SIGNIFICANT
TROPICAL CYCLONE WITHIN THE NEXT 24 HOURS IS UPGRADED TO FAIR.
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Re: CPac/WPac: 06E (ex-Cosme) JTWC: POOR

#225 Postby cycloneye » Tue Jul 24, 2007 6:34 pm

THE REMNANT CIRCULATION OF TD 06E PREVIOUSLY LOCATED NEAR
15.6N 178.0W, IS NOW LOCATED NEAR 16.3N 179.3W, APPROXIMATELY 810 NM
EAST OF WAKE ISLAND. ANIMATED INFRARED SATELLITE IMAGERY DEPICTS
IMPROVED CONSOLIDATION WITH PERSISTENT DEEP CONVECTION NEAR THE
PARTIALLY EXPOSED LOW LEVEL CIRCULATION CENTER. BANDING CONVECTION
HAS CONTINUED TO ORGANIZE OVER THE PAST 06 HOURS. UPPER LEVEL
ANALYSIS CONTINUES TO INDICATE MODERATE, WESTERLY VERTICAL WIND
SHEAR AND THIS REMAINS THE PRIMARY LIMITING FACTOR. MAXIMUM SUTAINED
SURFACE WINDS ARE ESTIMATED AT 15 TO 20 KNOTS. MINIMUM SEA LEVEL
PRESSURE IS ESTIMATED TO BE NEAR 1006 MB. BASED ON THE IMPROVED
ORGANIZATION, THE POTENTIAL FOR DEVELOPMENT OF A SIGNIFICANT
TROPICAL CYCLONE WITHIN THE NEXT 24 HOURS IS UPGRADED TO FAIR.
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Re: CPac/WPac: 06E (ex-Cosme) JTWC: POOR

#226 Postby Chacor » Tue Jul 24, 2007 6:54 pm

Hurricanehink wrote:It'll remain Cosme, as there is a case analogous to the renaming issue. In 1986, Tropical Storm Georgette formed in the Eastern Pacific Ocean, and lasted a few days before dissipating to the southeast of Hawaii. Its remnants continued westward, and after entering the Western Pacific it developed into a typhoon, and retained the name Georgette. Source: https://metocph.nmci.navy.mil/jtwc/atcr/1986atcr/pdf/wnp/11e10w.pdf


Yes, but JTWC had naming responsibility then, so were always likely to retain the name.
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#227 Postby Chacor » Tue Jul 24, 2007 6:58 pm

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#228 Postby Chacor » Tue Jul 24, 2007 7:06 pm

527
WWPN20 KNES 242145
CCA
SATELLITE WEATHER BULLETIN - CORRECTION
WEST PACIFIC OCEAN MTSAT VIS/IRDAY
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JULY 24 2007 2033Z
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16.0N 179.8W T2.5/2.5/D1.0/24HRS COSME (06E)
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PAST POSITIONS...15.6N 178.1W 24/1200Z VIS/IRDAY
15.7N 173.2W 23/1800Z VIS/IRDAY
.
REMARKS...CORRECTION TO THE DVORAK LINE....COSME HAS NOT CROSSED
180 YET BUT WILL VERY SOON...SO INITIATED 2033Z CLASSIFICATION
INSTEAD OF 0000Z GOES-WEST CLASSIFICATION. HOWEVER...CIRCULATION
IS VERY DIFFICULT TO FIND IN VIS/IR AND QUIKSCAT TO THE POINT
THAT THE CURRENT BURSTING OF CONVECTION MAY HAVE FULLY DISRUPTED
THE LLC AND RETURNED COSME TO AN OPEN WAVE.
IF A LLC WAS TO
FOUND...THE 1822Z TRMM PASS PROVED THE MOST HELP WITH SOME
BANDING FEATURES TO THE NW. SO POSITION STRONGLY BASED ON MI
SUPPORT. A MIDLEVEL SWIRL APPEARS TO BE DEVELOPING SE OF THE LLC
BASED ON VIS LOOP FROM BOTH GEOSTATIONARY SATELLITES. DT IS 2.5
BASED ON .4 BANDING. PT IS 2.5. MET IS 2.5. FT IS 2.5 BASED ON
MET.
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POSITION ACCURATE WITHIN 60 NMI.
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THE NEXT BULLETIN WILL BE ISSUED BEFORE 25/0400Z.
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FOR AREAL DISPLAY OF RAINFALL POTENTIAL SEE OUR WEB SITE AT
HTTP://WWW.SSD.NOAA.GOV/PS/TROP/TRAP.HTML
ALL LOWER CASE LETTERS EXCEPT PS/TROP
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GALLINA
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#229 Postby JonathanBelles » Tue Jul 24, 2007 7:23 pm

Yikes, before I thought this might have had a chance.
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#230 Postby cheezyWXguy » Tue Jul 24, 2007 7:32 pm

It is still there...look at the far southeastern part of the convection and you can see the eastern third of the LLC
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#231 Postby Chacor » Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:36 pm

WWJP25 RJTD 250000
WARNING AND SUMMARY 250000.
WARNING VALID 260000.
WARNING IS UPDATED EVERY 6 HOURS.
WARNING.
DENSE FOG OBSERVED LOCALLY OVER SEA OF OKHOTSK SEA OF JAPAN BOHAI
YELLOW SEA NORTHERN PART OF EAST CHINA SEA.
WARNING.
DENSE FOG OBSERVED LOCALLY OVER WATERS BOUNDED BY 42N 143E 47N 152E
51N 157E 60N 163E 60N 180E 38N 180E 38N 171E 38N 158E 40N 152E 40N
143E 42N 143E.
SUMMARY.
LOW 1000 HPA AT 54N 150E NORTH 10 KT.
LOW 1006 HPA AT 44N 179E NNE 15 KT.
TROPICAL DEPRESSION 1010 HPA AT 16N 180E WEST SLOWLY.
LOW PRESSURE AREA 1008 HPA NEAR 21N 141E WEST SLOWLY.
HIGH 1012 HPA AT 30N 128E NORTH 15 KT.
HIGH 1008 HPA AT 54N 137E EAST SLOWLY.
HIGH 1012 HPA AT 36N 142E EAST 10 KT.
HIGH 1016 HPA AT 42N 168E EAST SLOWLY.
WARM FRONT FROM 44N 179E TO 45N 176W 44N 172W.
COLD FRONT FROM 44N 179E TO 41N 180E 38N 179E 34N 176E 32N 174E.
STATIONARY FRONT FROM 31N 113E TO 33N 116E 35N 118E 37N 122E 38N 127E
38N 132E.
STATIONARY FRONT FROM 34N 147E TO 36N 151E 38N 154E 40N 158E 39N
161E.

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#232 Postby Chacor » Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:53 pm

BTW I wouldn't recommend starting a new thread in the "active storms" forum as JMA often adds TDs to their METAREA bulletin that are very short-lived (sometimes they are only mentioned once). I'd suggest only starting a new thread if public bulletins are issued (which means the JMA expects it to become a TS).
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#233 Postby Chacor » Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:09 am

THE REMNANT CIRCULATION OF TD 06E PREVIOUSLY LOCATED NEAR
16.3N 179.3W, IS NOW LOCATED NEAR 16.4N 178.2E, APPROXIMATELY 680 NM
EAST-SOUTHEAST OF WAKE ISLAND. ANIMATED INFRARED AND MULTISPECTRAL
SATELLITE IMAGERY DEPICTS DEGRADED DEEP CONVECTION AND A MORE DIS-
ORGANIZED LOW LEVEL CIRCULATION CENTER (LLCC). THE WEAKENING OF THIS
DISTURBANCE HAS OCCURRED OVER THE PAST 06 HOURS DUE TO MODERATE TO
HIGH VERTICAL WIND SHEAR. UPPER LEVEL ANALYSIS INDICATES THAT THE
DISTURBANCE WILL CONTINUE TO TRACK IN AN ENVIRONMENT OF HIGH VERTICAL
WIND SHEAR OVER THE NEXT 24 TO 36 HOURS. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED SURFACE
WINDS ARE ESTIMATED AT 12 TO 18 KNOTS. MINIMUM SEA LEVEL PRESSURE
IS ESTIMATED TO BE NEAR 1007 MB. BASED ON THE CONTINUED UNFAVORABLE
UPPER LEVEL ENVIRONMENT, BUT INCREASING OCEAN HEAT CONTENT, THE
POTENTIAL FOR DEVELOPMENT OF A SIGNIFICANT TROPICAL CYCLONE WITHIN
THE NEXT 24 HOURS IS DOWNGRADED TO POOR.
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#234 Postby Chacor » Wed Jul 25, 2007 4:13 am

No longer on the JMA's charts.

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#235 Postby Chacor » Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:23 am

JTWC has declared it dissipated and JMA is no longer carrying it. If it doesn't generate new convection within 24 hours I think the mods can merge this with the archived Cosme thread.
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#236 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:25 am

Chacor wrote:JTWC has declared it dissipated and JMA is no longer carrying it. If it doesn't generate new convection within 24 hours I think the mods can merge this with the archived Cosme thread.


Ok chacor.
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