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Re: Tropical Depression DEAN: 10 PM p328,Discussions

#11621 Postby Category 5 » Thu Aug 23, 2007 10:36 am

Dean is basically been thrown back to when he came off of Africa, he'll have to start all over again, can he do it before he hits cooler water?
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#11622 Postby NetZeroZeus » Thu Aug 23, 2007 10:58 am

CajunMama wrote:NetZeroZeus, how many inches of rain do you think you've had so far?


If I had to guess..9 to 10 inches at least, in 12 hours. That may be conservative, since just regular afternoon storms last about 3 hours and the big ones drop around 4 to 5 inches. And there is a drainage canal 2 blocks from my house that runs parallel to a major road artery, apparently it broke it's banks at around 1 am last night, putting up to 6 inches of water on a major 6 lane road. It's gone down for now, since this canal is only 9 blocks from the ocean, so it drains fairly quickly after reaching it's maxima.
From looking at satellite the good news is that the convection that was headed our way is slowly falling apart, and I believe the worst of it is over, but I expect there to be major damage and flooding in the lowlying inland parts, which also happens to be where most poor people live. The mountains aren't really helping either, since they squeeze the moisture out of the clouds and you get more rain.
PVR's weather station doesn't even report precipitation, and amounts can wildly vary over a small distance here.

EDIT: First death reported here due to flooding.
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#11623 Postby Windsurfer_NYC » Thu Aug 23, 2007 11:15 am

It looks like the remnants of Dean have emerged over the Eastern Pacific, and been renamed 93E (Per NRL)
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Re: Tropical Depression DEAN: 10 PM p328,Discussions

#11624 Postby Sanibel » Thu Aug 23, 2007 11:28 am

Weak convection however. Dean still has some kick. What a demon.


We should do a review of our coverage of Dean. I must admit I got pulled into thinking Dean was going to Texas early on because of climatology. A system like this rarely landed south of Brownsville, so GFS' recurve runs made me think it was seeing a weakness. I averaged its error rate and figured Texas was certain. Wrong. Next, this storm wasn't as wide as we were thinking. It also wasn't as strong. We should have seen what Dean had when he gave us a measure south of Jamaica. Belize only got 70mph where I assumed it would get at least 100mph. Wrong. Some were shouting about Chetumal being leveled. Wrong. Dean missed about 20 miles north and the south side winds were not as strong as some were shouting.

In the NY Times yesterday was a picture of a small Mexican concrete house de-roofed and flipped on its side in the landfall area. The entire house flipped up on its side and open to sight from the missing roof.
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Re: Tropical Depression DEAN: 10 PM p328,Discussions

#11625 Postby Lowpressure » Thu Aug 23, 2007 12:56 pm

I agree with a bunch of your post. Climo says poleward, especially cat 4. It was hard to imagine Dean staying west for so long. The ridge was so strong. If here in Charlotte we see 104 degrees, that is a nasty ridge. I still would have bet Central Texas when Dean entered the Carib. Models will digest a lot of data from that one.

Did you hear about the unmanned drones to fly into hurricanes? Launching out of Key West. I am not sure whether they got into Dean or not. They can go under 1000 feet.
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#11626 Postby ohiostorm » Thu Aug 23, 2007 1:00 pm

I'm sure this was already talked about but I didn't have time to search. People over at Airliners.net are wondering if there was significant damage to Jamaica's main airport. Anyone know any details?
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#11627 Postby ohiostorm » Thu Aug 23, 2007 1:03 pm

WOW. That's just incredible. Does look like a nuke went off.
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#11628 Postby Derek Ortt » Thu Aug 23, 2007 3:17 pm

the aerosonde did not fly into Dean. Operations do not start for a few more days
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#11629 Postby StormScanWx » Thu Aug 23, 2007 3:33 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:the aerosonde did not fly into Dean. Operations do not start for a few more days


Does anyone have a link to read more about this please?
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Re: DEAN -Threat Area -Yucatan Peninsula-Belize-Mainland Mexico

#11630 Postby HurricaneBill » Thu Aug 23, 2007 4:22 pm

Reports of at least 8 dead in Mexico.
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Re: DEAN -Threat Area -Yucatan Peninsula-Belize-Mainland Mexico

#11631 Postby cycloneye » Thu Aug 23, 2007 4:32 pm

HurricaneBill wrote:Reports of at least 8 dead in Mexico.



Is there a link to the report?
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Re: Tropical Depression DEAN: 10 PM p328,Discussions

#11632 Postby Sanibel » Thu Aug 23, 2007 5:12 pm

Center burst upon arrival over water.

I think they need drones because I don't entirely trust that surface estimate.
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Re: Pictures from rightside eyewall?

#11633 Postby Javlin » Thu Aug 23, 2007 6:48 pm

MGC wrote:Frankly, it looks like the Mississippi gulf coast after Katrina......MGC


My thoughts exactly it's the water but these guys did have the wind for many miles inland :eek:
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#11634 Postby Derek Ortt » Thu Aug 23, 2007 7:49 pm

could I have a source please for the report of 8 Mexican dead
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#11635 Postby JonathanBelles » Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:04 pm

Wikipedia now has 32 dead with 10 dead in Mexico.
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Re: Tropical Depression DEAN: 10 PM p328,Discussions

#11636 Postby Dick Pache » Thu Aug 23, 2007 10:42 pm

Aerosonde info (may be olde)

http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/project2005/aerosonde.html

Interesting links and PPT
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Re: Jamaica damage

#11637 Postby TampaFl » Fri Aug 24, 2007 7:15 am

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Re: Pictures from rightside eyewall?

#11638 Postby cheezyWXguy » Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:56 am

Yeah, imagine if Dean hit the gulf coast(strengthening cat5) as opposed to katrina. Although Dean was weaker at peak by a little and reached its peak at landfall, and since it had been around for much longer than Katrina had, the surge could fairly close in size
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#11639 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:25 am

Andrew92 wrote:The end of a wild, wild storm. I just hope and pray that damage continues to be minimal due to hitting sparsely populated areas.

I've been holding up from doing this, but I can resist no more. Dean, :Can: yeah, you're pretty likely to get it after this season's over. Good riddance.

Godspeed be with the victims and the families of this hurricane, and may we do all we can to help clean the damage.

-Andrew92


First time in 22 months someone is going to the can...
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#11640 Postby CajunMama » Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:31 am

The 8 might have been announced on radio but all I had to do was check cnn.com or foxnews.com.

There's been 21 deaths the carribbean from dean and 4 in mexico according to cnn.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/americas/ ... index.html

Fox is reporting 8 dead in mexico.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,294407,00.html
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