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Re: INVEST 94L Models Thread

#21 Postby ronjon » Sat Oct 06, 2007 2:31 pm

If this develops which I think it will - look for it to linger in the western caribean for quite some time. Both 12Z NOGAPs, UKMET, and MM5 just keep the system drifting around in the western caribbean for 5-6 days. GFS 200 mb winds are forecast to be extremely light over the NW caribbean for the next 5 days so look for perhaps major intensification with this one. A trough will start to dig down from the northern gulf coast with strong shear in 6 days so if the system drifts north enough it may get picked up and carried rapidly east - all the elements would have to come together but will may be looking at another Wilma type situation for next weekend.
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#22 Postby teal61 » Sat Oct 06, 2007 2:40 pm

May be another circulation between the Ne corner of Honduras and Grand Cayman closer to where the models are initialized
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Re: INVEST 94L : Western Caribbean : Discussions & Images

#23 Postby cycloneye » Sat Oct 06, 2007 2:47 pm

Here is the latest from TAFB about the low in W Caribbean.

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#24 Postby Derek Ortt » Sat Oct 06, 2007 2:48 pm

that circulation near Cuba is what I am thinking is the developing UL

That is why I am not currently all that enthused with this storm.

Right now, I am more worried if Ryan Miller can make a save tonight than I am of a major Carib hurricane
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#25 Postby Normandy » Sat Oct 06, 2007 3:06 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:that circulation near Cuba is what I am thinking is the developing UL

That is why I am not currently all that enthused with this storm.

Right now, I am more worried if Ryan Miller can make a save tonight than I am of a major Carib hurricane



There is also a surface feature moving into the Yucatan Channel....shear looks a bit bad for the SW Caribbean low, but it is firing some nice convection in and around the general vicinity.
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Re: INVEST 94L : Western Caribbean : Discussions & Images

#26 Postby Vortex » Sat Oct 06, 2007 3:08 pm

If its gonna happen this is the exact location where many memorable storms have formed in October and affected the keys and florida. It will probablly meander for the next 2-3 days before beginning to lift NW then N followed by NE late in the week ahead of an advancing trough...
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Re: INVEST 94L : Western Caribbean : Discussions & Images

#27 Postby wzrgirl1 » Sat Oct 06, 2007 3:15 pm

Vortex wrote:If its gonna happen this is the exact location where many memorable storms have formed in October and affected the keys and florida. It will probablly meander for the next 2-3 days before beginning to lift NW then N followed by NE late in the week ahead of an advancing trough...



Yes this is true....something to keep our eyes on....not sure if this will be the year of an October storm for Florida though....too much hostility out there
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Re: INVEST 94L Models Thread

#28 Postby hurricanetrack » Sat Oct 06, 2007 3:18 pm

Someone send me a telegram when this thing gets going. I will be in my cave.
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Re: INVEST 94L : Western Caribbean : Discussions & Images

#29 Postby Brent » Sat Oct 06, 2007 3:18 pm

I see a mess of disorganized convection and nothing developing anytime soon. After 92L turned out to be nothing I'm in the "believe it when I see it" category.
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Re: INVEST 94L : Western Caribbean : Discussions & Images

#30 Postby canegrl04 » Sat Oct 06, 2007 3:24 pm

After Humberto,every invest has been a TS that fizzled,or system that never got off the ground.I can't remember I time when this happened.If this one becomes a named storm,I will finally wake up from the 2007 tropical duldrums
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Re: INVEST 94L : Western Caribbean : Discussions & Images

#31 Postby lrak » Sat Oct 06, 2007 3:52 pm

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=42056

this buoy is the one to watch for a W or SW wind if that circulation off the tip of Cuba gets any better organized.
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Re: INVEST 94L : Western Caribbean : Discussions & Images

#32 Postby Ptarmigan » Sat Oct 06, 2007 3:54 pm

I see a lot of invests. 94L looks like the closest problem for us. What is 90L is now over Texas.
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Re: INVEST 94L : Western Caribbean : Discussions & Images

#33 Postby lrak » Sat Oct 06, 2007 4:04 pm

ok the buoy just switched to WNW hmm.....

and a 29.69 pressure to boot.

http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/MMCP.html kind of far away but 12 WNW wind.
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Re: INVEST 94L : Western Caribbean : Discussions & Images

#34 Postby BigA » Sat Oct 06, 2007 4:45 pm

The NHC does say that pressures are falling in the area. I think this of the invests has the best chance to "make a name for itself"
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Re: INVEST 94L : Western Caribbean : Discussions & Images

#35 Postby cycloneye » Sat Oct 06, 2007 4:50 pm

5:30 PM TWO:

SHOWER ACTIVITY OVER THE NORTHWESTERN CARIBBEAN SEA IS ASSOCIATED
WITH A BROAD AREA OF LOW PRESSURE CENTERED BETWEEN HONDURAS AND THE
CAYMAN ISLANDS. SURFACE PRESSURES ARE FALLING IN THE AREA...AND
FURTHER DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SYSTEM IS POSSIBLE OVER THE NEXT FEW
DAYS AS IT REMAINS NEARLY STATIONARY.


I concur with BigA ,this one is by far the best shot to get a name.
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Re: INVEST 94L : Western Caribbean : Discussions & Images

#36 Postby MiamiensisWx » Sat Oct 06, 2007 5:18 pm

Forget the other current areas, 92L, TD 10, '07 "trend", etc. - this is the first legitimate area (in recent weeks) that really should be monitored. It is situated in a climatologically favored region and regime. Low-level convergence is increasing per satellite imagery; we have been observing slowly falling sfc pressures; and we have a pre-existant sfc trough in the vicinity. Additionally, shear is marginal (not inhibitive), thus providing some nice UL diffluence. Check the recent GOES-E W Atlantic visible loop. There is some low-level 850 mb vorticity in the area. The biggest issue is northerly flow, but I believe the other conducive factors may override the situation. The operational GFS (~54 hours) builds a 588 dm UL ridge over the Gulf of Mexico, thus providing favorable UL easterlies. Additionally, there are light winds at 250 mb. There is a considerable amount of uncertainty with respect to the 500 mb progged pattern (future path), and 94L's close proximity to land indicates all areas should monitor the system.
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Re: INVEST 94L : Western Caribbean : Discussions & Images

#37 Postby wxman57 » Sat Oct 06, 2007 5:41 pm

I go away for a day and 92L becomes 94L? It was moving across the Bahamas into Cuba when I left yesterday, and I pointed out the lowering pressure in the NW Caribbean. Why the need to call it a different invest? It's the same system, pushed into the Caribbean by NE winds around the high to the northwest of 92L.

Well, at least this one isn't fighting icebergs like 95L.
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Re: INVEST 94L : Western Caribbean : Discussions & Images

#38 Postby hial2 » Sat Oct 06, 2007 5:42 pm

Well the X-man 57 did it again!! He called it,almost to the hour...How does he do it? Could it be that he studied for many years,and probably still owes lots of money?? :lol:

Kudos to you,sir
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Re: INVEST 94L : Western Caribbean : Discussions & Images

#39 Postby wxman57 » Sat Oct 06, 2007 5:45 pm

hial2 wrote:Well the X-man 57 did it again!! He called it,almost to the hour...How does he do it? Could it be that he studied for many years,and probably still owes lots of money?? :lol:

Kudos to you,sir


I'm not sure what you're talking about. :think:
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Re: INVEST 94L : Western Caribbean : Discussions & Images

#40 Postby Evil Jeremy » Sat Oct 06, 2007 5:47 pm

actually wxman, i think 92L disapated and reformed into 93L, and this came out of nowhere.
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