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Tropical Wave emerging Africa: (Is Invest 91L)

#1 Postby emeraldislenc » Mon Aug 31, 2015 1:58 pm

Looks like a strong cluster of Thunderstorms will be moving off the coast of Africa in a few days. Any model support? :flag:
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Re: Tropical Wave over Africa

#2 Postby Anthonyl » Tue Sep 01, 2015 1:53 am

ZCZC MIATWOAT ALL
TTAA00 KNHC DDHHMM

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
200 AM EDT TUE SEP 1 2015

For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico:

The National Hurricane Center is issuing advisories on recently
downgraded Tropical Storm Fred, located just north of the
northwestern Cape Verde Islands.

1. A tropical wave is forecast to move off of the west coast of Africa
on Thursday several hundred miles southeast of the Cape Verde
Islands. Environmental conditions are expected to be somewhat
favorable for gradual development of this system through the weekend
while it moves westward at 15 to 20 mph.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...20 percent

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Re: Tropical Wave over Africa

#3 Postby emeraldislenc » Tue Sep 01, 2015 2:20 am

For once I made a good call!
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Re: Tropical Wave over Africa

#4 Postby abajan » Tue Sep 01, 2015 5:04 am

emeraldislenc wrote:For once I made a good call!
Sure did! 8-)

The current projected path looks ominous for the Lesser Antilles but we'll see how it plays out:

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#5 Postby gatorcane » Tue Sep 01, 2015 11:32 am

GFS continues to show gradual development and shows it moving west at a low latitude in the general direction of the southern Leewards in the long-range. Doesn't get strong, basically a weak low, but it is not recurving it. Definitely something to watch given the time of year and where it is headed. Latest 8AM EST:

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Re: Tropical Wave over Africa

#6 Postby cycloneye » Tue Sep 01, 2015 12:41 pm

2 PM TWO:

A tropical wave is forecast to move off of the west coast of
Africa over the next couple days several hundred miles southeast of
the Cape Verde Islands. Development, if any, of this system should
be slow to occur through the weekend while it moves westward at 15
to 20 mph.
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#7 Postby gatorcane » Tue Sep 01, 2015 2:19 pm

The ECMWF develops this now also, just when the NHC lowered development chances. I suspect we may see them go up again in the next couple of outlooks if trends continue.

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#8 Postby gatorcane » Tue Sep 01, 2015 3:46 pm

UKMET with some gradual development:

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#9 Postby cycloneye » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:41 pm

A tropical wave is forecast to move off of the west coast of Africa
on Thursday several hundred miles southeast of the Cape Verde
Islands. Development, if any, of this system should be slow to
occur through the weekend while it moves westward at 15 to 20 mph.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...10 percent
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#10 Postby Hammy » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:49 pm

The models develop this, but I wonder if they've ceased to trust them after the fiasco with Erika's runs.
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#11 Postby gatorcane » Tue Sep 01, 2015 7:54 pm

Below is the latest image from Africa. I circled the wave the models are developing. NHC chances may be too low if the GFS and ECMWF continue to show development in the overnight runs.

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Re: Tropical Wave over Africa

#12 Postby abajan » Wed Sep 02, 2015 7:42 am

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Poof! :lol:

(Of course, that's only for the next five days. No telling what happens six days hence.)
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Re: Tropical Wave over Africa

#13 Postby Sanibel » Wed Sep 02, 2015 10:41 am

Keep an eye on that ITCZ convection in the Central Atlantic. It has a small rotation attached.
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#14 Postby gatorcane » Wed Sep 02, 2015 11:22 am

I am a bit surprised the NHC just dropped this seeing how the ECMWF shows some possible development on the 00Z run along with the CMC. The latest GFS run is back to showing some development too. The overnight GFS runs looked to have dropped it so that might have influenced their decision. Still I would have left it at 10%. It wouldn't surprise me if it is back in the Outlook at 2pm EST, certainly it will be for the 8pm EST outlook if the Euro continues to show development.

Look at this folks on the 12Z GFS - looks like a low-end tropical storm maybe heading west towards the Leewards, about 7 days from now below:

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12Z CMC more bullish (hour 114 shown):

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#15 Postby gatorcane » Wed Sep 02, 2015 1:07 pm

The 12Z ECMWF continues to develop. I have no idea why NHC is not mentioning this wave any longer other than they dropped it overnight and want to see a few more cycles of model runs before jumping the gun and reintroducing it on the map so that continuity is maintained in their outlooks. Based on the 12Z models, I think development chances are more like 20% through 48 hours and 40% through 5 days with wording "some slow development is possible."
I am pretty sure they will have no choice but to reintroduce this wave on the next Outlook at 8pm EST.

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#16 Postby gatorcane » Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:54 pm

The UKMET is showing development also as well as the FIM-9. Of all the global models, the NAVGEM is the only one not showing development. Expect this wave to be reintroduced in the NHC outlooks.
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Re: Tropical Wave over Africa

#17 Postby emeraldislenc » Wed Sep 02, 2015 3:05 pm

Do you think that might be tonight at 8pm?
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Re: Tropical Wave over Africa

#18 Postby abajan » Wed Sep 02, 2015 3:45 pm

emeraldislenc wrote:Do you think that might be tonight at 8pm?
That's pretty much what gatorcane opined in the last sentence of their penultimate post, is it not? If you're asking others, I for one think it will be returned to the TWO but don't know when. Incidentally, a meteorologist based in Miami who gives forecasts for this region on local radio stations stated earlier today that it will pass through the Lesser Antilles as a strong TW and nothing more intense. How he could state this with such certainty about a wave which hasn't even exited Africa yet beats me!

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#19 Postby gatorcane » Wed Sep 02, 2015 6:34 pm

A tropical wave is expected to move off of the west coast of Africa
several hundred miles southeast of the Cape Verde Islands Thursday
or Friday. Conditions appear conducive for slow development over
the weekend as the system moves generally westward at 15 to 20 mph.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...20 percent
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#20 Postby gatorcane » Wed Sep 02, 2015 7:32 pm

Latest vis loop of the system nearing the African coast. It has good spin with convection blowing up as well:

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... display=24

18Z GFS 168 hour position, east of the Leewards:

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