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#21 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Sep 28, 2008 2:04 pm

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Large circulation.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L : Discussion

#22 Postby cycloneye » Sun Sep 28, 2008 2:08 pm

Floater 2:

Convection trying to wrap a little more closer to low center.

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#23 Postby TheEuropean » Sun Sep 28, 2008 2:59 pm

28/1745 UTC 37.1N 43.6W ST2.5 95L -- Atlantic Ocean

again 2.5
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L : Discussion

#24 Postby MGC » Sun Sep 28, 2008 4:26 pm

Yea, huge circulation...just needs a bit more convection near the center.....MGC
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#25 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Sep 28, 2008 5:38 pm

This may be another Karl 1980 or Unnamed hurricane of 1991, where a hurricane formed inside a non-tropical system.
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#26 Postby Just Joshing You » Sun Sep 28, 2008 5:46 pm

No it won't, n00b. It would be the L name, not the K name. CAN'T BE KARL. :P

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#27 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Sep 28, 2008 6:28 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L : Discussion

#28 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sun Sep 28, 2008 6:31 pm

Looks like a subtropical storm to me...We will see what the nhc does.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L : Discussion

#29 Postby Just Joshing You » Sun Sep 28, 2008 6:32 pm

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:Looks like a subtropical storm to me...We will see what the nhc does.



Just like 94l looked like a tropical storm?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L : Discussion

#30 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sun Sep 28, 2008 6:37 pm

Just Joshing You wrote:
Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:Looks like a subtropical storm to me...We will see what the nhc does.



Just like 94l looked like a tropical storm?



94L had everything a tropical storm has. 1# Warm core 2# developing convection near its center. So please think outside the box. This is also develop convection but in a more subtropical way. Also it has 2.5 st=subtroical. I don't expect the nhc will upgrade intill they are sure that it is.
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#31 Postby Just Joshing You » Sun Sep 28, 2008 6:41 pm

It didn't have a warm core. That was at the lower levels. Upper levels = cold core. It could have been a STS, but it was NOT a TS.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L : Discussion

#32 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sun Sep 28, 2008 6:54 pm

A tropical cyclone supposed to have its strongest warm "core" near the surface. In 7c is more then enough to go tropical. Please show me the data to says other wise. I welcome you to show me it.

As for this it looks like most subtropical cyclones, I've seen, with a area of deep convection to one side wraping into the system.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L : Discussion

#33 Postby cycloneye » Sun Sep 28, 2008 7:01 pm


ABNT20 KNHC 282359
TWOAT
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
800 PM EDT SUN SEP 28 2008

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER IS ISSUING ADVISORIES ON HURRICANE
KYLE...LOCATED NEAR THE WESTERN TIP OF NOVA SCOTIA CANADA.

SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS HAVE BECOME A LITTLE MORE CONCENTRATED
NEAR THE CENTER OF A LARGE NON-TROPICAL LOW PRESSURE AREA LOCATED
OVER THE CENTRAL NORTH ATLANTIC OCEAN ABOUT 800 MILES
WEST-SOUTHWEST OF THE WESTERNMOST AZORES ISLANDS. THIS SYSTEM
APPEARS TO BE SLOWLY ACQUIRING TROPICAL CHARACTERISTICS AND IT HAS
THE POTENTIAL TO BECOME A SUBTROPICAL OR TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING
THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS AS IT MOVES GENERALLY WEST OR
WEST-NORTHWESTWARD AT 10 TO 15 MPH.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$

FORECASTER BROWN

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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L : Discussion

#34 Postby cycloneye » Sun Sep 28, 2008 7:03 pm

Excuse me please,I think this is a thread for invest 95L,not for a past invest.If you want to debate about another invest,you can exchange PMS,but lets have this thread clear from that.
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#35 Postby RL3AO » Sun Sep 28, 2008 7:36 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L : Discussion

#36 Postby cycloneye » Sun Sep 28, 2008 7:52 pm

00:00 UTC Best Track still considers 95L as Non-Tropical.

AL, 95, 2008092900, , BEST, 0, 367N, 457W, 50, 995, EX,

ftp://ftp.tpc.ncep.noaa.gov/atcf/tcweb/
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L : Discussion

#37 Postby El Nino » Sun Sep 28, 2008 9:58 pm

50 kts. That's a strong "extra-tropical supposed to be (sub)tropical" storm !
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#38 Postby CrazyC83 » Sun Sep 28, 2008 10:02 pm

It's pretty hard to tell if it is subtropical or extratropical without Recon (which is a pipe dream up there) so I think they will be conservative on naming it Laura (or not).
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L : Discussion

#39 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sun Sep 28, 2008 10:32 pm

If convection can hold over the center, and quickscat can show that the wind field is growing more defined/tighter. Then maybe within the next 6-12 hours this could become a subtropical storm.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L : Discussion

#40 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Mon Sep 29, 2008 12:39 am

Convection is over the southern part of the center...As far as I'm concerned this don't look to bad, well on its way.
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