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#41 Postby Just Joshing You » Mon Aug 25, 2008 5:28 pm

Ah. Will the general public ever find out about it? Or is it not really that big of an issue for CNN to throw on the front page under 'Breaking News' lol
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#42 Postby pojo » Mon Aug 25, 2008 5:30 pm

extradited wrote:Ah. Will the general public ever find out about it? Or is it not really that big of an issue for CNN to throw on the front page under 'Breaking News' lol


as long as the forecaster keeps it out of the disco............
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#43 Postby Just Joshing You » Mon Aug 25, 2008 5:33 pm

What does that mean? Sorry English is not my first language and I don't grasp the finer meanings.
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#44 Postby pojo » Mon Aug 25, 2008 5:54 pm

extradited wrote:What does that mean? Sorry English is not my first language and I don't grasp the finer meanings.


During Hurricane Felix, NOAA aborted a flight because of over stressing the aircraft's structure..... the NHC forecaster on duty put the reason why they aborted into the discussion and that started a media frenzy............

our problem today is a persistent problem that happens more frequently than others..... we are in the process of trouble shooting it.
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#45 Postby Hurricanewatcher2007 » Mon Aug 25, 2008 7:59 pm

The mission for tonight which takes off in about an hour is still good to go right? Or will they have to abort it because of the problem this afternoon?
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#46 Postby pojo » Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:22 pm

Hurricanewatcher2007 wrote:The mission for tonight which takes off in about an hour is still good to go right? Or will they have to abort it because of the problem this afternoon?



you do have to remember we have 7 operational aircraft here at Homestead.... thus meaning you won't get the problem aircraft for the next flight...... Earlier flight 5302; now 5307
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#47 Postby RL3AO » Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:33 pm

Recon nearing Haiti.
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Re: TS Gustav Recon Discussion

#48 Postby Hurricanewatcher2007 » Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:56 pm

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Hurricanewatcher2007 wrote:The mission for tonight which takes off in about an hour is still good to go right? Or will they have to abort it because of the problem this afternoon?



you do have to remember we have 7 operational aircraft here at Homestead.... thus meaning you won't get the problem aircraft for the next flight...... Earlier flight 5302; now 5307


Thats what I figured but I also know that it takes time to prep the aircraft and all that so i wasn't completely sure. I also know that with commercial aircraft if they find a big enough problem then it could ground all aircraft of that type until the problem can be fixed if its found to be a problem with the design that affects more then just that 1 aircraft.
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#49 Postby pojo » Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:06 am

Hurricanewatcher2007 wrote:
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Hurricanewatcher2007 wrote:The mission for tonight which takes off in about an hour is still good to go right? Or will they have to abort it because of the problem this afternoon?



you do have to remember we have 7 operational aircraft here at Homestead.... thus meaning you won't get the problem aircraft for the next flight...... Earlier flight 5302; now 5307


Thats what I figured but I also know that it takes time to prep the aircraft and all that so i wasn't completely sure. I also know that with commercial aircraft if they find a big enough problem then it could ground all aircraft of that type until the problem can be fixed if its found to be a problem with the design that affects more then just that 1 aircraft.


we ground that aircraft until the problem is 'thought' to be fixed..... we've have lockheed reps working with our maintenance guys and have parts on order to TRY to fix this common problem....this isn't just one aircraft... this is ALL of the weather birds.... some just work better than others.
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#50 Postby artist » Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:21 am

they haven't noted the eye wall structure have they yet?
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#51 Postby RL3AO » Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:23 am

L. CLOSED WALL
M. E04/26/16


Closed, elliptical shaped eyewall.
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#52 Postby artist » Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:24 am

thanks. Guess this is going to be a long week again.
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#53 Postby cycloneye » Tue Aug 26, 2008 6:51 am

What is the last position in terms of latutud and longitud of the lowest pressure of 981mbs?
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Re: Hurricane Gustav Recon Discussion

#54 Postby deltadog03 » Tue Aug 26, 2008 6:54 am

Luis, Don't know the exact coords, but looks like its moving almost NNW right now.
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#55 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Tue Aug 26, 2008 6:56 am

17.49N 71.99W
Splash location of 982mb dropsonde.
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#56 Postby gboudx » Tue Aug 26, 2008 11:23 am

When Gustav is near Cuba, will their gov't allow our Recon planes to fly over their airspace, or do we have to avoid it?
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#57 Postby pojo » Tue Aug 26, 2008 11:30 am

gboudx wrote:When Gustav is near Cuba, will their gov't allow our Recon planes to fly over their airspace, or do we have to avoid it?

it depends.... if Cuba is going to be hit by Gustav then maybe... it depends on how much information the Cuban gov't wants on the storm.
there is a high probability that we'll get the dip & overflight clearances... but we'll see.
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#58 Postby KWT » Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:25 pm

Well given that Gustav could clip the western end of the country as a major I'd think its wise Cuba does allow passage over them.

Anyway plane decending now to operational height.
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Re: Hurricane Gustav Recon Discussion

#59 Postby Sirius LeWindy » Tue Aug 26, 2008 3:37 pm

I can not find any observations supporting hurricane strength for Gustav. Am I missing them?
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Re: Hurricane Gustav Recon Discussion

#60 Postby CrazyC83 » Tue Aug 26, 2008 4:05 pm

Sirius LeWindy wrote:I can not find any observations supporting hurricane strength for Gustav. Am I missing them?


The area is not well sampled at all. The strongest winds would be over land where Recon will not go and there are no reports that I can find in that area.
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