Gustav Recon Discussion

[Chris_in_Tampa]

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[Agua]

Thanks Chris.

[cycloneye]

Mechanical problems? They turned around to Homestead Base.

[RL3AO]

Second time they've had to cut a mission short.

[cycloneye]

000
URNT15 KNHC 280440
AF307 0607A GUSTAV HDOB 08 20080828
043030 2405N 07932W 4098 07422 0407 -145 -145 047013 014 999 999 03
043100 2407N 07931W 4100 07414 0405 -147 -147 075010 011 014 002 03
043130 2407N 07928W 4099 07407 0403 -146 -146 089009 010 032 000 00
043200 2407N 07925W 4097 07417 0404 -145 -145 077007 008 029 000 00
043230 2407N 07923W 4098 07417 0403 -144 -144 061005 006 029 000 00
043300 2407N 07920W 4097 07416 0404 -144 -144 036003 003 029 000 00
043330 2407N 07917W 4100 07416 0405 -143 -143 009004 005 028 000 00
043400 2407N 07914W 4098 07418 0406 -145 -145 015006 007 029 000 00
043430 2407N 07911W 4100 07413 0406 -144 -144 023006 007 028 000 00
043500 2407N 07909W 4098 07414 0404 -145 -145 027006 006 029 000 00
043530 2408N 07906W 4099 07411 0404 -145 -145 046004 005 029 000 00
043600 2408N 07903W 4098 07414 0404 -145 -145 048005 006 029 000 00
043630 2408N 07900W 4098 07417 0403 -145 -145 054006 006 029 000 03
043700 2408N 07858W 4100 07408 0403 -145 -145 059007 008 999 999 03
043730 2408N 07855W 4097 07417 0401 -145 -145 058007 007 999 999 03
043800 2408N 07852W 4099 07411 0401 -145 -145 056006 006 999 999 03
043830 2408N 07849W 4098 07413 0403 -145 -145 066005 006 999 999 03
043900 2408N 07847W 4104 07406 0401 -145 -145 063006 007 999 999 03
043930 2408N 07844W 4095 07418 0401 -145 -145 066005 006 999 999 03
044000 2408N 07841W 4102 07407 0401 -145 -145 077005 005 999 999 03
$$

Turning east?

[RL3AO]

Now they are moving east.

[CrazyC83]

Weird - they turned east. Maybe they fixed the problems?

[cycloneye]

Umm,maybe they didnt have communication with the Cuban Goverment?

[RL3AO]

They looked to be closer to Cuba than previous flights. That was probably the issue.

[GeneratorPower]

Apparently they didn't get approval from Cuba to overfly the island. They are having to go around. Ridiculous.

[pojo]

Mechanical problems? They turned around to Homestead Base.

they took off late... and yes Cuban Overflight is approved...

[cycloneye]

Pressure keeps dropping,last pass at 985 mbs.

[gboudx]

When is the recon aircraft that samples the upper atmosphere scheduled to fly? I see a Plan of the Day from yesterday that appears to show, and I'm not sure I'm reading it right, that it will fly on the 29th at 0z. Is that right?

NOUS42 KNHC 271430
WEATHER RECONNAISSANCE FLIGHTS
CARCAH, NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER, MIAMI, FL.
1030 AM EDT WED 27 AUGUST 2008
SUBJECT: TROPICAL CYCLONE PLAN OF THE DAY (TCPOD)
VALID 28/1100Z TO 29/1100Z AUGUST 2008
TCPOD NUMBER.....08-088

I. ATLANTIC REQUIREMENTS

snip

FLIGHT THREE -- NOAA 49
A. 29/0000Z
B. NOAA9 0907A GUSTAV
C. 28/1730Z
D. NA
E. NA
F. 41,000 TO 45,000 FT

[pojo]

When is the recon aircraft that samples the upper atmosphere scheduled to fly? I see a Plan of the Day from yesterday that appears to show, and I'm not sure I'm reading it right, that it will fly on the 29th at 0z. Is that right?

NOUS42 KNHC 271430
WEATHER RECONNAISSANCE FLIGHTS
CARCAH, NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER, MIAMI, FL.
1030 AM EDT WED 27 AUGUST 2008
SUBJECT: TROPICAL CYCLONE PLAN OF THE DAY (TCPOD)
VALID 28/1100Z TO 29/1100Z AUGUST 2008
TCPOD NUMBER.....08-088

I. ATLANTIC REQUIREMENTS

snip

FLIGHT THREE -- NOAA 49
A. 29/0000Z
B. NOAA9 0907A GUSTAV
C. 28/1730Z
D. NA
E. NA
F. 41,000 TO 45,000 FT

they have to fix the center of the storm at FL410BFL450 at 29/00z.... they are most likely going to be flying for 8-12hours

[gboudx]

So does that mean they fix the center between those alititudes and then do sampling around the storm?

[pojo]

So does that mean they fix the center between those alititudes and then do sampling around the storm?

they'll sample ahead of the storm.... one or two of the drop points is going to be in the storm environment in the 00z window

[gboudx]

Thanks pojo.

[RL3AO]

URNT15 KNHC 281804
AF300 0807A GUSTAV HDOB 20 20080828
175430 1800N 07610W 6962 03011 9840 +129 +110 141024 029 999 999 03
175500 1800N 07611W 6959 03020 9828 +140 +110 134012 018 999 999 03
175530 1759N 07613W 6971 02997 9825 +139 +110 103012 013 999 999 03
175600 1757N 07615W 6954 03014 9831 +128 +110 025010 020 999 999 03
175630 1756N 07616W 6973 02997 9858 +111 +110 355026 031 999 999 03
175700 1755N 07617W 6958 03031 9887 +102 +102 346050 063 999 999 03
175730 1753N 07619W 6973 03045 9947 +084 +084 340055 060 999 999 03
175800 1751N 07618W 6950 03095 9986 +070 +070 303020 026 999 999 03
175830 1750N 07617W 6984 03039 9976 +068 +068 255033 037 999 999 03
175900 1751N 07615W 6962 03047 9957 +069 +069 258044 047 086 032 03
175930 1752N 07613W 6956 03045 9912 +091 +091 257034 046 083 018 03
180000 1754N 07612W 6966 03013 9884 +099 +099 259019 022 084 007 03
180030 1756N 07611W 6962 03018 9880 +099 +099 218028 034 147 004 03
180100 1757N 07609W 6959 03033 9926 +075 +075 194046 053 081 013 00
180130 1759N 07608W 6983 03008 9948 +066 +066 180059 068 076 042 00
180200 1800N 07606W 6967 03044 9965 +062 +062 171066 070 091 045 00
180230 1802N 07605W 6948 03082 9980 +063 +063 163060 064 098 052 00
180300 1803N 07603W 6987 03042 9990 +062 +062 153064 064 115 033 03
180330 1805N 07602W 6954 03087 0004 +058 +058 156053 060 098 032 03
180400 1806N 07601W 6974 03073 0019 +053 +053 132053 055 085 029 00
$$


SFMR is on crack I think. 147kt tagged, 98kt untagged.

[CrazyC83]

Yep the SFMR is definitely on crack right now. I'd totally disregard it.

[RL3AO]

Pojo, whats up with this drop?

UZNT13 KNHC 281822
XXAA 78187 99180 70761 04486 99906 20818 ///// 00/// ///// /////
92/// ///// ///// 85372 18407 14566 70019 07000 15564 88999 77999
31313 09608 81802
61616 AF300 0807A GUSTAV OB 06
62626 EYEWALL 045 SPL 1808N07610W 1805 LST WND 822 AEV 00000 DLM
WND 15062 906707 =
XXBB 78188 99180 70761 04486 00906 20818 11732 12003 22707 11600
33699 06000
21212 00906 13565 11905 13062 22891 13574 33850 14566 44810 15055
55699 15564
31313 09608 81802
61616 AF300 0807A GUSTAV OB 06
62626 EYEWALL 045 SPL 1808N07610W 1805 LST WND 822 AEV 00000 DLM
WND 15062 906707 =


I'm pretty confident the surface pressure isn't 906mb.