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#901 Postby sunnyday » Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:09 pm

This may be a dumb question, but what is going on with the Bamm predicitons of Bertha's future? It shows the storm heading a lot further south than the other models.
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Re: Hurricane Bertha Model Runs

#902 Postby attallaman » Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:19 pm

Based upon the latest information tonight from the NHC on Bertha would it be safe to say that Bertha will not pose any threat to any part of the US mainland but will just end up becoming a fish storm if the system does manage to skirt by Bermuda?
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#903 Postby Hybridstorm_November2001 » Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:27 pm

I've noticed some thing over these past six years; BAM tends to be crap in the track deparment.
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#904 Postby Hybridstorm_November2001 » Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:27 pm

sunnyday wrote:This may be a dumb question, but what is going on with the Bamm predicitons of Bertha's future? It shows the storm heading a lot further south than the other models.


Let us hope.
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Re: Hurricane Bertha Model Runs

#905 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:38 pm

105 kts,952 mbs,moving at 300 degrees at 10kts.

WHXX01 KWBC 080035
CHGHUR
TROPICAL CYCLONE GUIDANCE MESSAGE
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
0035 UTC TUE JUL 8 2008

DISCLAIMER...NUMERICAL MODELS ARE SUBJECT TO LARGE ERRORS.
PLEASE REFER TO NHC OFFICIAL FORECASTS FOR TROPICAL CYCLONE
AND SUBTROPICAL CYCLONE INFORMATION.

ATLANTIC OBJECTIVE AIDS FOR

TROPICAL CYCLONE BERTHA (AL022008) 20080708 0000 UTC

...00 HRS... ...12 HRS... ...24 HRS. .. ...36 HRS...
080708 0000 080708 1200 080709 0000 080709 1200

LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMS 20.5N 52.3W 21.6N 54.7W 22.6N 56.5W 23.4N 58.4W
BAMD 20.5N 52.3W 21.5N 53.8W 22.5N 55.2W 23.4N 56.7W
BAMM 20.5N 52.3W 21.2N 54.2W 21.9N 56.0W 22.6N 57.7W
LBAR 20.5N 52.3W 21.6N 53.9W 22.7N 55.5W 23.6N 56.9W
SHIP 105KTS 103KTS 97KTS 90KTS
DSHP 105KTS 103KTS 97KTS 90KTS

...48 HRS... ...72 HRS... ...96 HRS. .. ..120 HRS...
080710 0000 080711 0000 080712 0000 080713 0000

LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMS 24.5N 60.0W 26.4N 62.3W 27.1N 63.9W 27.4N 65.5W
BAMD 24.6N 57.9W 26.9N 59.8W 28.5N 61.0W 29.3N 62.7W
BAMM 23.4N 59.3W 25.0N 61.8W 25.6N 63.1W 25.7N 64.5W
LBAR 24.7N 58.1W 26.3N 59.2W 26.9N 59.7W 27.2N 60.3W
SHIP 86KTS 72KTS 59KTS 58KTS
DSHP 86KTS 72KTS 59KTS 58KTS

...INITIAL CONDITIONS...
LATCUR = 20.5N LONCUR = 52.3W DIRCUR = 300DEG SPDCUR = 10KT
LATM12 = 19.4N LONM12 = 50.7W DIRM12 = 291DEG SPDM12 = 11KT
LATM24 = 18.8N LONM24 = 47.9W
WNDCUR = 105KT RMAXWD = 15NM WNDM12 = 80KT
CENPRS = 952MB OUTPRS = 1013MB OUTRAD = 200NM SDEPTH = D
RD34NE = 100NM RD34SE = 60NM RD34SW = 40NM RD34NW = 100NM

Slowing down and moving 300 degrees.
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#906 Postby Nimbus » Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:40 pm

The BAM models are just a good indicator of wind layer flow. Current heading looks like Bertha would cross 55 W at about 23 N, but if she is done strengthening and starts getting a little more influence from the ridge flow the track could swing left a little.

Any other guesses about direction?
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Re: Hurricane Bertha Model Runs

#907 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:42 pm

The 00:00 UTC SHIP forecast: Shear appears to not be a huge problem thru 120 hours.

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       *   ATLANTIC SHIPS INTENSITY FORECAST       *
                    *        GOES/OHC INPUT INCLUDED            *
                    *      BERTHA  AL022008  07/08/08  00 UTC   *

TIME (HR)          0     6    12    18    24    36    48    60    72    84    96   108   120
V (KT) NO LAND   105   106   103   101    97    90    86    79    72    62    59    57    58
V (KT) LAND      105   106   103   101    97    90    86    79    72    62    59    57    58
V (KT) LGE mod   105   108   106   102    98    91    86    82    78    73    68    64    62

SHEAR (KTS)       17    17    13     8    13    12    18    20    22    26    18    12    13
SHEAR DIR        225   253   272   256   229   256   218   234   220   242   237   297   316
SST (C)         27.0  27.1  27.2  27.3  27.4  27.5  27.6  27.9  28.0  27.9  27.6  27.1  26.2
POT. INT. (KT)   124   125   126   128   129   130   131   135   136   134   129   124   114
ADJ. POT. INT.   113   114   116   118   118   117   116   119   117   114   109   105    97
200 MB T (C)   -54.4 -54.7 -54.8 -54.6 -54.5 -55.0 -54.6 -55.1 -54.8 -54.9 -54.2 -54.4 -54.5
TH_E DEV (C)      10    10    10    10    10    10    11    10    10     9     9     8     7
700-500 MB RH     47    46    50    50    47    45    45    43    44    43    42    47    50
GFS VTEX (KT)     12    13    13    14    14    12    14    13    13    13    14    14    14
850 MB ENV VOR    11    -6    -6    -5    -6   -44   -54   -72   -82   -90   -62   -29   -16
200 MB DIV         8    10     5    -4    -9    11    -1     9   -21    -6    14    10    34
LAND (KM)       1424  1339  1255  1171  1094   994   956   977  1076  1180  1292  1379  1278
LAT (DEG N)     20.5  20.9  21.2  21.8  22.3  23.5  24.6  25.8  27.3  28.5  29.6  30.8  32.3
LONG(DEG W)     52.3  53.2  54.1  55.1  56.1  57.9  59.4  60.7  61.6  62.1  62.2  62.2  62.1
STM SPEED (KT)     9     9    10    11    10    10     8     9     7     6     5     7     7
HEAT CONTENT      17    19    20    23    25    23    22    26    24    15     8     6     1

  FORECAST TRACK FROM OFCI      INITIAL HEADING/SPEED (DEG/KT):300/ 10      CX,CY:  -8/  5
  T-12 MAX WIND:  80            PRESSURE OF STEERING LEVEL (MB):  586  (MEAN=625)
  GOES IR BRIGHTNESS TEMP. STD DEV. 100-300 KM RAD:  14.6 (MEAN=20.0)
  % GOES IR PIXELS WITH T < -20 C    50-200 KM RAD:  92.0 (MEAN=68.6)

                        INDIVIDUAL CONTRIBUTIONS TO INTENSITY CHANGE
                         6   12   18   24   36   48   60   72   84   96  108  120
                        ----------------------------------------------------------
  SAMPLE MEAN CHANGE     1.   2.   3.   4.   6.   8.   9.  10.  11.  12.  12.  13.
  SST POTENTIAL         -2.  -3.  -4.  -6. -10. -17. -25. -32. -38. -42. -46. -50.
  VERTICAL SHEAR        -2.  -5.  -6.  -8.  -9.  -8.  -7.  -5.  -4.  -3.  -1.   2.
  PERSISTENCE            4.   4.   3.   3.   2.   3.   3.   2.   0.  -1.  -1.   0.
  200/250 MB TEMP.       0.   0.   1.   1.   1.   2.   3.   3.   4.   4.   5.   5.
  THETA_E EXCESS         0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -2.  -2.  -3.
  700-500 MB RH          0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.
  GFS VORTEX TENDENCY    0.   0.   1.   1.  -1.   0.   0.   0.  -1.   0.  -1.  -1.
  850 MB ENV VORTICITY   0.   0.  -1.  -1.  -2.  -2.  -4.  -5.  -6.  -7.  -7.  -7.
  200 MB DIVERGENCE      0.   0.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -2.  -2.  -3.  -3.  -3.  -3.  -2.
  ZONAL STORM MOTION     0.   0.   0.   1.   1.   1.   1.   1.   1.   1.   2.   2.
  STEERING LEVEL PRES    0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   1.   1.   1.   1.   1.   1.   0.
  DAYS FROM CLIM. PEAK   0.   0.   0.  -1.  -1.  -2.  -2.  -2.  -2.  -3.  -3.  -4.
                        ----------------------------------------------------------
  SUB-TOTAL CHANGE       1.  -1.  -4.  -7. -13. -18. -24. -31. -40. -43. -45. -45.

  SATELLITE ADJUSTMENTS ----------------------------------------------------------
  MEAN ADJUSTMENT        0.   0.   0.   0.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -2.
  GOES IR STD DEV        0.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.
  GOES IR PIXEL COUNT    0.   1.   1.   1.   1.   1.   0.   0.  -1.  -1.  -1.   0.
  OCEAN HEAT CONTENT     0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.
                        ----------------------------------------------------------
  TOTAL ADJUSTMENT       0.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -2.  -2.  -2.  -2.  -2.  -2.
                        ----------------------------------------------------------
  TOTAL CHANGE (KT)      1.  -2.  -4.  -8. -15. -19. -26. -33. -43. -46. -48. -47.

   ** 2008 ATLANTIC RI INDEX AL022008     BERTHA 07/08/08  00 UTC **
           ( 25 KT OR MORE MAX WIND INCREASE IN NEXT 24 HR)
 
 12 HR PERSISTENCE (KT):  25.0 Range:-45.0 to  30.0 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.9/  1.7
 850-200 MB SHEAR (KT) :  13.7 Range: 35.1 to   3.2 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.7/  1.1
 D200 (10**7s-1)       :   2.0 Range:-20.0 to 149.0 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.1/  0.2
 POT = MPI-VMAX (KT)   :  10.8 Range: 25.1 to 130.7 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.0/  0.0
 850-700 MB REL HUM (%):  64.8 Range: 56.0 to  88.0 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.3/  0.1
 % area w/pixels <-30 C:  85.0 Range: 17.0 to 100.0 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.8/  0.2
 STD DEV OF IR BR TEMP :   8.2 Range: 35.1 to   3.2 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.8/  1.1
 Heat content (KJ/cm2) :  20.8 Range:  0.0 to 132.0 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.2/  0.0
 
 Prob of RI for 25 kt RI threshold=     4% is   0.3 times the sample mean(12.3%)
 Prob of RI for 30 kt RI threshold=     3% is   0.3 times the sample mean( 7.8%)
 Prob of RI for 35 kt RI threshold=     1% is   0.3 times the sample mean( 4.5%)

   ##         ANNULAR HURRICANE INDEX (AHI) AL022008     BERTHA 07/08/08  00 UTC         ##
   ## STORM NOT ANNULAR, SCREENING STEP FAILED, NPASS=3 NFAIL=4                          ##
   ## AHI=  0   (AHI OF 100 IS BEST FIT TO ANN. STRUC., 1 IS MARGINAL, 0 IS NOT ANNULAR) ##
   ##     ANNULAR INDEX RAN NORMALLY   
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Re: Hurricane Bertha Model Runs

#908 Postby ronjon » Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:48 pm

Cycloneye, I don't get it. If the SHIPs is forecasting only modest shear why is the BAM intensity falling off from 105 kts to only 58 kts in 120 hrs? And it drops in intensity over every single 12 hr period.
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Re: Hurricane Bertha Model Runs

#909 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:49 pm

ronjon wrote:Cycloneye, I don't get it. If the SHIPs is forecasting only modest shear why is the BAM intensity falling off from 105 kts to only 58 kts in 120 hrs? And it drops in intensity over every single 12 hr period.


That is a good question.Lets see if one of our pro mets answer this one.
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Re: Hurricane Bertha Model Runs

#910 Postby nequad » Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:13 pm

The BAMMS don't forecast intensity. That is the SHIPS intensity forecast.
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#911 Postby Derek Ortt » Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:10 pm

it is best to ask the technical questions in the analysis forum thread on Bertha. That way, the questions can be read more easily and the replies do not get buried as quickly beneath the wobble wars
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#912 Postby hurricanefloyd5 » Mon Jul 07, 2008 11:31 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:it is best to ask the technical questions in the analysis forum thread on Bertha. That way, the questions can be read more easily and the replies do not get buried as quickly beneath the wobble wars

the models have a better handle on BIG BERTHA now!!!!!!!
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Re: Hurricane Bertha Model Runs

#913 Postby Thunder44 » Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:25 am

It looks to me like the GFDL and UKMET have the best handle on Bertha. Their latest runs have her recurving out to sea, east of 60W. That would spare Bermuda, from any significant impact.
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Re: Hurricane Bertha Model Runs

#914 Postby gatorcane » Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:23 am

Well Bertha appears to be heading towards the weakness and will more than likely recurve out to sea ultimately (and looks increasingly less of a threat to Bermuda also)

One thing everybody should note about the models is that the GFS, HWRF, and GFDL ultimately handled Bertha the best in the long-run from the get-go albeit the models showed a recurvature that was just a bit east of where it really happened. But the point is that these models forecasted recurvature from day 1 well east of any landmass and did not back down. Let me bring up this brief snippet from the very first NHC discussions:

NHC Archive snippet from the first NHC discussion

MIDDLE-LEVEL RIDGING IS STEERING THE STORM TOWARD THE WEST-
NORTHWEST...ABOUT 285/8. THIS RIDGING GETS STRONGER DURING THE NEXT
COUPLE OF DAYS...WHICH SHOULD CAUSE A FASTER FORWARD MOTION BY LATE
TOMORROW. GLOBAL MODELS ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT WITH THE TRACK UNTIL
THE SYSTEM POTENTIALLY REACHES A BREAK IN THE SUBTROPICAL RIDGE
ALONG ABOUT 50W-55W AT THE END OF THE FORECAST PERIOD. THE MODELS
THAT SHOW THE STRONGEST REFLECTION OF THE CYCLONE...SUCH AS THE
GFS/HWRF/GFDL
...TURN THE DEPRESSION MORE TOWARD THE NORTHWEST...

Good job NHC yet again
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Re: Hurricane Bertha Model Runs

#915 Postby Frank2 » Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:34 am

From this morning's TCD, regarding the northward turn:

IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE GFDL AND HWRF MODELS HAVE BEEN CALLING FOR THIS SCENARIO MORE CONSISTENTLY THAN THE OTHER GUIDANCE OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF DAYS.


Dr. Ooyama, Dr. Lord and others did a good job of writing this program, for sure...
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Re: Hurricane Bertha Model Runs

#916 Postby gatorcane » Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:36 am

Frank2 wrote:From this morning's TCD, regarding the northward turn:

IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE GFDL AND HWRF MODELS HAVE BEEN CALLING FOR THIS SCENARIO MORE CONSISTENTLY THAN THE OTHER GUIDANCE OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF DAYS.


Dr. Ooyama, Dr. Lord and others did a good job of writing this program, for sure...


Absolutely the NHC did a fabulous job. Although several well-respected models including the UKMET and NOGAPS showed a west-runner with Bertha, the NHC did not bite on it
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Re: Hurricane Bertha Model Runs

#917 Postby cycloneye » Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:44 am

90 kts,970 mbs067
WHXX01 KWBC 081240
CHGHUR
TROPICAL CYCLONE GUIDANCE MESSAGE
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
1240 UTC TUE JUL 8 2008

DISCLAIMER...NUMERICAL MODELS ARE SUBJECT TO LARGE ERRORS.
PLEASE REFER TO NHC OFFICIAL FORECASTS FOR TROPICAL CYCLONE
AND SUBTROPICAL CYCLONE INFORMATION.

ATLANTIC OBJECTIVE AIDS FOR

TROPICAL CYCLONE BERTHA (AL022008) 20080708 1200 UTC

...00 HRS... ...12 HRS... ...24 HRS. .. ...36 HRS...
080708 1200 080709 0000 080709 1200 080710 0000

LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMS 21.8N 53.5W 23.0N 55.4W 24.2N 57.2W 25.3N 58.7W
BAMD 21.8N 53.5W 22.8N 54.9W 23.9N 56.3W 25.2N 57.5W
BAMM 21.8N 53.5W 22.7N 55.3W 23.5N 57.0W 24.5N 58.4W
LBAR 21.8N 53.5W 22.9N 54.7W 23.8N 56.2W 24.7N 57.3W
SHIP 90KTS 80KTS 76KTS 72KTS
DSHP 90KTS 80KTS 76KTS 72KTS

...48 HRS... ...72 HRS... ...96 HRS. .. ..120 HRS...
080710 1200 080711 1200 080712 1200 080713 1200

LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMS 26.5N 60.1W 28.1N 62.3W 28.6N 63.5W 29.3N 64.8W
BAMD 26.4N 58.4W 28.6N 59.6W 30.2N 60.4W 32.0N 61.8W
BAMM 25.4N 59.6W 26.7N 61.1W 27.2N 61.7W 28.3N 62.6W
LBAR 25.7N 58.0W 26.5N 58.3W 26.9N 57.8W 28.1N 57.1W
SHIP 67KTS 57KTS 54KTS 51KTS
DSHP 67KTS 57KTS 54KTS 51KTS

...INITIAL CONDITIONS...
LATCUR = 21.8N LONCUR = 53.5W DIRCUR = 315DEG SPDCUR = 9KT
LATM12 = 20.6N LONM12 = 52.2W DIRM12 = 315DEG SPDM12 = 9KT
LATM24 = 19.4N LONM24 = 50.7W
WNDCUR = 90KT RMAXWD = 15NM WNDM12 = 105KT
CENPRS = 970MB OUTPRS = 1013MB OUTRAD = 200NM SDEPTH = D
RD34NE = 100NM RD34SE = 60NM RD34SW = 40NM RD34NW = 100NM
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Re: Hurricane Bertha Model Runs

#918 Postby cycloneye » Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:46 am

12:00 UTC SHIP Forecast:

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              *   ATLANTIC SHIPS INTENSITY FORECAST       *
                    *        GOES/OHC INPUT INCLUDED            *
                    *      BERTHA  AL022008  07/08/08  12 UTC   *

TIME (HR)          0     6    12    18    24    36    48    60    72    84    96   108   120
V (KT) NO LAND    90    84    80    78    76    72    67    62    57    55    54    55    51
V (KT) LAND       90    84    80    78    76    72    67    62    57    55    54    55    51
V (KT) LGE mod    90    84    80    78    76    74    72    69    66    61    58    55    54

SHEAR (KTS)       18    12    12    11    12    16    22    22    31    24    15    19    22
SHEAR DIR        251   256   229   246   240   221   244   229   239   230   273   265   279
SST (C)         27.1  27.2  27.3  27.4  27.4  27.6  27.8  27.9  27.8  27.8  27.5  27.0  26.5
POT. INT. (KT)   125   126   127   129   129   131   132   133   131   132   128   122   116
ADJ. POT. INT.   113   113   115   116   115   115   114   113   111   111   107   102    96
200 MB T (C)   -54.8 -54.6 -54.8 -54.9 -55.1 -54.6 -55.1 -54.7 -54.9 -54.2 -54.6 -54.4 -54.8
TH_E DEV (C)      10    10    10    10     9    10    10    10     9     9     8     7     7
700-500 MB RH     46    49    47    46    46    46    46    45    44    43    44    45    45
GFS VTEX (KT)     14    15    15    13    14    14    14    14    14    14    14    15    16
850 MB ENV VOR    -9    -8    -5   -29   -40   -52   -62   -70   -59   -57   -31   -36   -33
200 MB DIV        -1    -1    -2    16    16    15     7    -1    -8    -3    16    12    16
LAND (KM)       1331  1280  1234  1188  1150  1134  1171  1236  1304  1398  1515  1430  1353
LAT (DEG N)     21.8  22.4  22.9  23.5  24.1  25.5  26.7  27.7  28.5  29.5  30.7  31.7  32.6
LONG(DEG W)     53.5  54.2  54.9  55.7  56.5  57.9  58.8  59.2  59.3  59.3  59.3  59.0  58.6
STM SPEED (KT)     9     8     9     9     9     8     6     5     4     5     6     5     4
HEAT CONTENT      18    19    23    26    25    23    19    17    15    14     9     5     0

  FORECAST TRACK FROM OFCI      INITIAL HEADING/SPEED (DEG/KT):315/  9      CX,CY:  -5/  6
  T-12 MAX WIND: 105            PRESSURE OF STEERING LEVEL (MB):  610  (MEAN=625)
  GOES IR BRIGHTNESS TEMP. STD DEV. 100-300 KM RAD:  20.6 (MEAN=20.0)
  % GOES IR PIXELS WITH T < -20 C    50-200 KM RAD:  54.0 (MEAN=68.6)

                        INDIVIDUAL CONTRIBUTIONS TO INTENSITY CHANGE
                         6   12   18   24   36   48   60   72   84   96  108  120
                        ----------------------------------------------------------
  SAMPLE MEAN CHANGE     1.   2.   3.   4.   6.   8.   9.  10.  11.  12.  12.  13.
  SST POTENTIAL         -1.  -1.  -2.  -3.  -6. -11. -17. -23. -27. -30. -33. -37.
  VERTICAL SHEAR        -1.  -3.  -4.  -5.  -5.  -6.  -4.  -5.  -4.  -3.  -1.  -1.
  PERSISTENCE           -4.  -5.  -5.  -5.  -6.  -6.  -6.  -5.  -3.  -2.  -1.   0.
  200/250 MB TEMP.       0.   0.   1.   1.   2.   2.   3.   3.   4.   4.   5.   6.
  THETA_E EXCESS         0.   0.   0.   0.   0.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -2.  -3.  -4.  -4.
  700-500 MB RH          0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.
  GFS VORTEX TENDENCY    0.   0.   0.  -1.   0.   0.  -1.  -1.  -2.  -1.  -1.   0.
  850 MB ENV VORTICITY   0.   0.  -1.  -1.  -2.  -3.  -5.  -6.  -6.  -7.  -7.  -7.
  200 MB DIVERGENCE      0.   0.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -2.  -2.  -3.  -3.  -3.  -2.
  ZONAL STORM MOTION     0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.
  STEERING LEVEL PRES    0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.
  DAYS FROM CLIM. PEAK   0.   0.   0.  -1.  -1.  -2.  -2.  -2.  -2.  -3.  -3.  -4.
                        ----------------------------------------------------------
  SUB-TOTAL CHANGE      -5.  -7.  -9. -11. -14. -19. -25. -31. -34. -35. -35. -37.

  SATELLITE ADJUSTMENTS ----------------------------------------------------------
  MEAN ADJUSTMENT        0.   0.   0.   0.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -2.
  GOES IR STD DEV       -1.  -2.  -2.  -2.  -3.  -2.  -2.   0.   1.   1.   1.   1.
  GOES IR PIXEL COUNT    0.   0.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.   0.   0.   1.   1.   1.   0.
  OCEAN HEAT CONTENT     0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.
                        ----------------------------------------------------------
  TOTAL ADJUSTMENT      -1.  -2.  -3.  -4.  -4.  -3.  -3.  -2.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -2.
                        ----------------------------------------------------------
  TOTAL CHANGE (KT)     -6. -10. -12. -14. -18. -23. -28. -33. -35. -36. -35. -39.

   ** 2008 ATLANTIC RI INDEX AL022008     BERTHA 07/08/08  12 UTC **
           ( 25 KT OR MORE MAX WIND INCREASE IN NEXT 24 HR)
 
 12 HR PERSISTENCE (KT): -15.0 Range:-45.0 to  30.0 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.4/  0.7
 850-200 MB SHEAR (KT) :  13.2 Range: 35.1 to   3.2 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.7/  1.1
 D200 (10**7s-1)       :   5.6 Range:-20.0 to 149.0 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.2/  0.2
 POT = MPI-VMAX (KT)   :  24.4 Range: 25.1 to 130.7 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.0/  0.0
 850-700 MB REL HUM (%):  63.8 Range: 56.0 to  88.0 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.2/  0.1
 % area w/pixels <-30 C:  40.0 Range: 17.0 to 100.0 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.3/  0.1
 STD DEV OF IR BR TEMP :  14.5 Range: 35.1 to   3.2 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.6/  0.8
 Heat content (KJ/cm2) :  22.2 Range:  0.0 to 132.0 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.2/  0.0
 
 Prob of RI for 25 kt RI threshold=     4% is   0.3 times the sample mean(12.3%)
 Prob of RI for 30 kt RI threshold=     3% is   0.3 times the sample mean( 7.8%)
 Prob of RI for 35 kt RI threshold=     1% is   0.3 times the sample mean( 4.5%)

   ##         ANNULAR HURRICANE INDEX (AHI) AL022008     BERTHA 07/08/08  12 UTC         ##
   ## STORM NOT ANNULAR, SCREENING STEP FAILED, NPASS=3 NFAIL=4                          ##
   ## AHI=  0   (AHI OF 100 IS BEST FIT TO ANN. STRUC., 1 IS MARGINAL, 0 IS NOT ANNULAR) ##
   ##     ANNULAR INDEX RAN NORMALLY   
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Re: Hurricane Bertha Model Runs

#919 Postby cheezyWXguy » Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:06 am

cycloneye wrote:90 kts,970 mbs067
WHXX01 KWBC 081240
CHGHUR
TROPICAL CYCLONE GUIDANCE MESSAGE
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
1240 UTC TUE JUL 8 2008

DISCLAIMER...NUMERICAL MODELS ARE SUBJECT TO LARGE ERRORS.
PLEASE REFER TO NHC OFFICIAL FORECASTS FOR TROPICAL CYCLONE
AND SUBTROPICAL CYCLONE INFORMATION.

ATLANTIC OBJECTIVE AIDS FOR

TROPICAL CYCLONE BERTHA (AL022008) 20080708 1200 UTC

...00 HRS... ...12 HRS... ...24 HRS. .. ...36 HRS...
080708 1200 080709 0000 080709 1200 080710 0000

LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMS 21.8N 53.5W 23.0N 55.4W 24.2N 57.2W 25.3N 58.7W
BAMD 21.8N 53.5W 22.8N 54.9W 23.9N 56.3W 25.2N 57.5W
BAMM 21.8N 53.5W 22.7N 55.3W 23.5N 57.0W 24.5N 58.4W
LBAR 21.8N 53.5W 22.9N 54.7W 23.8N 56.2W 24.7N 57.3W
SHIP 90KTS 80KTS 76KTS 72KTS
DSHP 90KTS 80KTS 76KTS 72KTS

...48 HRS... ...72 HRS... ...96 HRS. .. ..120 HRS...
080710 1200 080711 1200 080712 1200 080713 1200

LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMS 26.5N 60.1W 28.1N 62.3W 28.6N 63.5W 29.3N 64.8W
BAMD 26.4N 58.4W 28.6N 59.6W 30.2N 60.4W 32.0N 61.8W
BAMM 25.4N 59.6W 26.7N 61.1W 27.2N 61.7W 28.3N 62.6W
LBAR 25.7N 58.0W 26.5N 58.3W 26.9N 57.8W 28.1N 57.1W
SHIP 67KTS 57KTS 54KTS 51KTS
DSHP 67KTS 57KTS 54KTS 51KTS

...INITIAL CONDITIONS...
LATCUR = 21.8N LONCUR = 53.5W DIRCUR = 315DEG SPDCUR = 9KT
LATM12 = 20.6N LONM12 = 52.2W DIRM12 = 315DEG SPDM12 = 9KT
LATM24 = 19.4N LONM24 = 50.7W
WNDCUR = 90KT RMAXWD = 15NM WNDM12 = 105KT
CENPRS = 970MB OUTPRS = 1013MB OUTRAD = 200NM SDEPTH = D
RD34NE = 100NM RD34SE = 60NM RD34SW = 40NM RD34NW = 100NM

I cant believe ships even keeps this a hurricane for 12 more hours, let alone 2 days! Bertha should likely be gone by the end of the forecast period.
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#920 Postby Hybridstorm_November2001 » Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:21 am

Bye bye Bertha. You were a fun storm to track. Mainly because you posed no real threat to Main Land North America, and blew up so fast. 8-)
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